Jan, I converted www.pinespc.org from HTML 3.2 to XHTML when I took it over. I use nothing but CSS for presentation, no tables. Exclusive of images I reduced the page from 27k to 8k plus 5k for the css. Total page reduction without removing any images 14k. I then replaced the javascript rollovers (images of text) with css based text links. Took out another 16k for the images.
So without removing a singe 'important' image the page size was reduced by 30k out of the 57-78k they started at. Pages render virtually identically cross browser and cross platform (I've tested with IE 5.2 & Safari on the Mac, IT 6, Opera 6 & 7, NN 6.2 & 4.8 and Mozilla). There is only one page that renders differently and that is the preschool page because NN 4.x can't get the floated images right so I've hidden those images from it. Some people tell me they prefer the page without the images but one of the church members drew them so they stayed. Personally I kind of like them. Cheryl D. Wise Microsoft MVP WiserWays, LLC 713 353-0139 www.wiserways.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Jan J.R. I am still using tables for layout, and most of the css thread was about padding, margins, and how to center a table. Believe me, I'm definitely going to learn how to do tables in my css instead of my html pages. You just won't be able to believe how much I have decreased my download times by improving, and using more css. Jan http://www.jdvisions.com J.R. Pitts wrote: > Not that ANYBODY asked me, or that ANYONE cares, but this whole > thread...this is why I still use tables for layout. ____ • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • ____ To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub ________________ http://www.wdvl.com _______________________ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]