I would think, at this point, that the number of devs swapping between multiple 
versions of WO would be close to zero. Anyone supporting a legacy codebase will 
probably know what to do. Perhaps there could simply be a link to a separate 
article - “How to maintain multiple versions of WO."

Tim

> On Feb 21, 2019, at 8:10 AM, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> The problem is that (If I remember correctly) when you invoke ant on the CLI, 
> ant uses wolips.properties. it will ignore anything else.
> 
> so if you have a wolips.543.properties and Eclipse is set up to use it, then 
> Eclipse is Okay, but the CLI will not use it.
> 
> So I think it is better to NOT use the wolips.543.properties so that 
> installing and or compiling from Eclipse will agree with using the CLI.
> 
> One can do whatever pleases themselves, but I think erring on the side of 
> consistency is more correct (betterer???)! And it is not really erring, it is 
> making an informed decision.
> 
> Can you override ant’s properties?
> 
> ant -Dproperties=wolips.543.properties
> 
> So I agree with Markus, we should tone down the usage of .543. (multiple 
> versions) or at the least call it not recommended and the above is why.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2019, at 9:39 AM, Maik Musall <m...@selbstdenker.ag 
>> <mailto:m...@selbstdenker.ag>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ted,
>> 
>> I went through the install process on a clean machine, created new 
>> screenshots and updated the Project Wonder Installation page with that. But 
>> I kept the wolips.543.properties scheme that had been described there, even 
>> though the comments at the bottom recommend not doing that and ignore the 
>> versioning. I also have the impression that skipping the version distinction 
>> would be better.
>> 
>> I can update that again, but I'd like a discussion about that detail here 
>> before.
>> 
>> Maik
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 21.02.2019 um 05:06 schrieb Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com 
>>> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>>:
>>> 
>>> So I can edit some pages but not all  :(
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I can edit in here for instance:
>>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Building+a+WebObjects+Project
>>>  
>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Building+a+WebObjects+Project>
>>> 
>>> but I cannot edit here:
>>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Project+Wonder+Installation 
>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Project+Wonder+Installation>
>>> 
>>> I have always been very confused in the wiki. I know that Maik Musall can 
>>> edit here because it says at the top of the page:
>>> last modified by Maik Musall 
>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/~mmusall> on Dec 01, 2017 
>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/pages/diffpagesbyversion.action?pageId=1835055&selectedPageVersions=60&selectedPageVersions=61>
>>> 
>>> I would be happy to help here if we can figure out how to get me edit privs.
>>> 
>>> Ted
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 20, 2019, at 10:47 PM, Michael Sharp <getsh...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:getsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> A wiki update would be good. I’ve updated README.md in the 4.10 repo to 
>>>> reference the appropriate version of Eclipse and WOLips update site URL.
>>>> 
>>>> - Sharpy.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 20 Feb 2019, at 7:03 pm, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com 
>>>>> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ???
>>>>> 
>>>>> should the wiki be updated to reflect this URL?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hate the idea of having to examine the mail archives to find  this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ted
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 7:38 PM, Henrique Prange <hpra...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:hpra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just to let you know that I've merged Michael's pull request into the 
>>>>>> eclipse_4_10 branch. Maik did set up a new Jenkins job to build from 
>>>>>> changes on that branch. You can test it by pointing your WOLips update 
>>>>>> site to:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/WOLips410/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/WOLips410/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It looks good on my machine.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> HP
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2019, at 7:52 PM, Michael Sharp <getsh...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:getsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Henrique,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you, PR here https://github.com/wocommunity/wolips/pull/139 
>>>>>>> <https://github.com/wocommunity/wolips/pull/139>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Sharpy.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 18 Feb 2019, at 3:11 am, Henrique Prange <hpra...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:hpra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I've pushed a new branch eclipse_4_10 to track changes and fixes for 
>>>>>>>> Eclipse 2018-12 momentarily. Would you mind to create a pull request?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> HP
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2019, at 10:00 PM, Michael Sharp <getsh...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:getsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Samuel,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I’m happy to create a pull request but I’m not sure there’s an 
>>>>>>>>> appropriate destination branch at wocommunity/wolips yet.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I’d like to see jenkins.wocommunity building this too. I have jenkins 
>>>>>>>>> building it here with both rebel and jprofiler support, although I’m 
>>>>>>>>> unable to test those particular features.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> - Sharpy
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ps: my last message was sent from an email address that is not 
>>>>>>>>> registered for the list, this one should make it. It’s been a while..
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 15 Feb 2019, at 1:50 am, Samuel Pelletier <sam...@samkar.com 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sam...@samkar.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I managed to build your branch with the readme content (There are 
>>>>>>>>>> too many build instruction out there...) and after fixing the 
>>>>>>>>>> wo.root in the wobuild.property file that was not up to date. I 
>>>>>>>>>> built without jprofiler and without jrebel.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> AddKey works again.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It would be a good thing to create the official repo with these and 
>>>>>>>>>> start the automatic builds. What is the next step to put that in 
>>>>>>>>>> place ?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Samuel
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Le 13 févr. 2019 à 18:29, Michael Sharp <mich...@getsharp.org 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mich...@getsharp.org>> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I’m building a WOLips4.10 variation locally from my branch at 
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/getsharp/wolips/tree/eclipse_4_10 
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/getsharp/wolips/tree/eclipse_4_10>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The changes to their internal JDT APIs (such as StubUtility) was a 
>>>>>>>>>>> pretty good incentive to leave them alone all together.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Add Key and a few other broken features are fixed for me with this 
>>>>>>>>>>> build.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sharpy.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14 Feb 2019, at 7:37 am, Samuel Pelletier <sam...@samkar.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sam...@samkar.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I experience Eclipse 2018-12 with WOLips and DCEVM and the latest 
>>>>>>>>>>>> WOLips and it works quite well to date.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I use the openjdk11 with DCEVM and Hotswap integrated found at 
>>>>>>>>>>>> this location, it is important to use the latest (+8 at this time) 
>>>>>>>>>>>> version if you use Groovy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://github.com/TravaOpenJDK/trava-jdk-11-dcevm/releases 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/TravaOpenJDK/trava-jdk-11-dcevm/releases>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> This download contains the entire JVM directory, to install it :
>>>>>>>>>>>>    cd /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/
>>>>>>>>>>>>    sudo tar zxf 
>>>>>>>>>>>> /Users/yourDownloadLocation/java11-openjdk-dcevm-osx.tar.gz
>>>>>>>>>>>>    Then go to Eclipse preferences to add the new JVM.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> This JVM is for dev only, it always starts with DCEVM and Hotswap. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> DCEVM is a free hot code replacement like JRebel and HotSwap 
>>>>>>>>>>>> contains plugins to help the engine.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apps compile and run faster (real or placebo effet) than my 
>>>>>>>>>>>> previous setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The only downside to date is the addKey in the WO editor that no 
>>>>>>>>>>>> longer works.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It fail with java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
>>>>>>>>>>>> org/eclipse/jdt/internal/corext/codemanipulation/StubUtility. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> found the addKey problem in WOLips, the team moved an internal 
>>>>>>>>>>>> classe used by this function in the AddKeyInfo class. Here is the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> import that need to change in this file.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -import 
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jdt.internal.corext.codemanipulation.StubUtility;
>>>>>>>>>>>> +import org.eclipse.jdt.internal.core.manipulation.StubUtility;
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> My problem now is I do not have a working WOLips build environment 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to test this. I tried to follow the Wiki instruction but I only 
>>>>>>>>>>>> get fail build du to missing something.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone has a working WOLips development setup, please update 
>>>>>>>>>>>> it with Eclipse 2018-12 and apply my patch to build a new WOLips. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> This will require a new WOLips version for Eclipse 4.10+ since 
>>>>>>>>>>>> this code will no longer works with the previous version.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Samuel
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