Ya'll need Maven.

- hugi


> On 21 Feb 2019, at 17:09, Tim Worman <li...@thetimmy.com> wrote:
> 
> I would think, at this point, that the number of devs swapping between 
> multiple versions of WO would be close to zero. Anyone supporting a legacy 
> codebase will probably know what to do. Perhaps there could simply be a link 
> to a separate article - “How to maintain multiple versions of WO."
> 
> Tim
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2019, at 8:10 AM, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com 
>> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> The problem is that (If I remember correctly) when you invoke ant on the 
>> CLI, ant uses wolips.properties. it will ignore anything else.
>> 
>> so if you have a wolips.543.properties and Eclipse is set up to use it, then 
>> Eclipse is Okay, but the CLI will not use it.
>> 
>> So I think it is better to NOT use the wolips.543.properties so that 
>> installing and or compiling from Eclipse will agree with using the CLI.
>> 
>> One can do whatever pleases themselves, but I think erring on the side of 
>> consistency is more correct (betterer???)! And it is not really erring, it 
>> is making an informed decision.
>> 
>> Can you override ant’s properties?
>> 
>> ant -Dproperties=wolips.543.properties
>> 
>> So I agree with Markus, we should tone down the usage of .543. (multiple 
>> versions) or at the least call it not recommended and the above is why.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 21, 2019, at 9:39 AM, Maik Musall <m...@selbstdenker.ag 
>>> <mailto:m...@selbstdenker.ag>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ted,
>>> 
>>> I went through the install process on a clean machine, created new 
>>> screenshots and updated the Project Wonder Installation page with that. But 
>>> I kept the wolips.543.properties scheme that had been described there, even 
>>> though the comments at the bottom recommend not doing that and ignore the 
>>> versioning. I also have the impression that skipping the version 
>>> distinction would be better.
>>> 
>>> I can update that again, but I'd like a discussion about that detail here 
>>> before.
>>> 
>>> Maik
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Am 21.02.2019 um 05:06 schrieb Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com 
>>>> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>>:
>>>> 
>>>> So I can edit some pages but not all  :(
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I can edit in here for instance:
>>>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Building+a+WebObjects+Project
>>>>  
>>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Building+a+WebObjects+Project>
>>>> 
>>>> but I cannot edit here:
>>>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Project+Wonder+Installation 
>>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Project+Wonder+Installation>
>>>> 
>>>> I have always been very confused in the wiki. I know that Maik Musall can 
>>>> edit here because it says at the top of the page:
>>>> last modified by Maik Musall 
>>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/~mmusall> on Dec 01, 2017 
>>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/pages/diffpagesbyversion.action?pageId=1835055&selectedPageVersions=60&selectedPageVersions=61>
>>>> 
>>>> I would be happy to help here if we can figure out how to get me edit 
>>>> privs.
>>>> 
>>>> Ted
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 20, 2019, at 10:47 PM, Michael Sharp <getsh...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:getsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> A wiki update would be good. I’ve updated README.md in the 4.10 repo to 
>>>>> reference the appropriate version of Eclipse and WOLips update site URL.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Sharpy.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 20 Feb 2019, at 7:03 pm, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ???
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> should the wiki be updated to reflect this URL?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I hate the idea of having to examine the mail archives to find  this.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 7:38 PM, Henrique Prange <hpra...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:hpra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just to let you know that I've merged Michael's pull request into the 
>>>>>>> eclipse_4_10 branch. Maik did set up a new Jenkins job to build from 
>>>>>>> changes on that branch. You can test it by pointing your WOLips update 
>>>>>>> site to:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/WOLips410/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> <https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/WOLips410/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It looks good on my machine.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> HP
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2019, at 7:52 PM, Michael Sharp <getsh...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:getsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Henrique,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thank you, PR here https://github.com/wocommunity/wolips/pull/139 
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/wocommunity/wolips/pull/139>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Sharpy.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 18 Feb 2019, at 3:11 am, Henrique Prange <hpra...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:hpra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I've pushed a new branch eclipse_4_10 to track changes and fixes for 
>>>>>>>>> Eclipse 2018-12 momentarily. Would you mind to create a pull request?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> HP
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2019, at 10:00 PM, Michael Sharp <getsh...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:getsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Samuel,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I’m happy to create a pull request but I’m not sure there’s an 
>>>>>>>>>> appropriate destination branch at wocommunity/wolips yet.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I’d like to see jenkins.wocommunity building this too. I have 
>>>>>>>>>> jenkins building it here with both rebel and jprofiler support, 
>>>>>>>>>> although I’m unable to test those particular features.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> - Sharpy
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ps: my last message was sent from an email address that is not 
>>>>>>>>>> registered for the list, this one should make it. It’s been a while..
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 15 Feb 2019, at 1:50 am, Samuel Pelletier <sam...@samkar.com 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sam...@samkar.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I managed to build your branch with the readme content (There are 
>>>>>>>>>>> too many build instruction out there...) and after fixing the 
>>>>>>>>>>> wo.root in the wobuild.property file that was not up to date. I 
>>>>>>>>>>> built without jprofiler and without jrebel.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> AddKey works again.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It would be a good thing to create the official repo with these and 
>>>>>>>>>>> start the automatic builds. What is the next step to put that in 
>>>>>>>>>>> place ?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Samuel
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 13 févr. 2019 à 18:29, Michael Sharp <mich...@getsharp.org 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mich...@getsharp.org>> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m building a WOLips4.10 variation locally from my branch at 
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/getsharp/wolips/tree/eclipse_4_10 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/getsharp/wolips/tree/eclipse_4_10>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The changes to their internal JDT APIs (such as StubUtility) was a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty good incentive to leave them alone all together.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Add Key and a few other broken features are fixed for me with this 
>>>>>>>>>>>> build.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharpy.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14 Feb 2019, at 7:37 am, Samuel Pelletier <sam...@samkar.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sam...@samkar.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I experience Eclipse 2018-12 with WOLips and DCEVM and the latest 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WOLips and it works quite well to date.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use the openjdk11 with DCEVM and Hotswap integrated found at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this location, it is important to use the latest (+8 at this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time) version if you use Groovy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    https://github.com/TravaOpenJDK/trava-jdk-11-dcevm/releases 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/TravaOpenJDK/trava-jdk-11-dcevm/releases>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This download contains the entire JVM directory, to install it :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   cd /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   sudo tar zxf 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Users/yourDownloadLocation/java11-openjdk-dcevm-osx.tar.gz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Then go to Eclipse preferences to add the new JVM.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This JVM is for dev only, it always starts with DCEVM and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hotswap. DCEVM is a free hot code replacement like JRebel and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotSwap contains plugins to help the engine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apps compile and run faster (real or placebo effet) than my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> previous setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only downside to date is the addKey in the WO editor that no 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It fail with java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> org/eclipse/jdt/internal/corext/codemanipulation/StubUtility. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> found the addKey problem in WOLips, the team moved an internal 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> classe used by this function in the AddKeyInfo class. Here is the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> import that need to change in this file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -import 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jdt.internal.corext.codemanipulation.StubUtility;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +import org.eclipse.jdt.internal.core.manipulation.StubUtility;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My problem now is I do not have a working WOLips build 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment to test this. I tried to follow the Wiki instruction 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I only get fail build du to missing something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone has a working WOLips development setup, please update 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it with Eclipse 2018-12 and apply my patch to build a new WOLips. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This will require a new WOLips version for Eclipse 4.10+ since 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this code will no longer works with the previous version.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samuel
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