I do, but I'm not quite sure the Wiki is where I'd like to post stuff. It's a very confusing place.
> On 22 Feb 2019, at 16:57, Ted Petrosky <tpetro...@agencysacks.com> wrote: > > And do you get an ‘edit’ button on the wiki page when you log in? > > > > Theodore Petrosky | IT/Finance Director > AgencySacks > > 345 Seventh Avenue, New York, NY 10001 > p. 212. 225. 9323 | agencysacks.com > > > From: Webobjects-dev > <webobjects-dev-bounces+tpetrosky=agencysacks....@lists.apple.com > <mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+tpetrosky=agencysacks....@lists.apple.com>> on > behalf of Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is <mailto:h...@karlmenn.is>> > Date: Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 5:34 PM > To: Maik Musall <m...@selbstdenker.ag <mailto:m...@selbstdenker.ag>> > Cc: "Ted Petrosky (WO)" <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com > <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> > Subject: Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap > > My comment was directed at you Ant guys with your property files—didn't > really intend for it to backfire onto myself :p. > > But I know there's a severe lack of documentation for using Maven with WO, > and I know I should have contributed a while ago. Incidentally I now finally > have time to write some docs, so it's time to own up. > > - hugi > > >> On 21 Feb 2019, at 21:33, Maik Musall <m...@selbstdenker.ag >> <mailto:m...@selbstdenker.ag>> wrote: >> >> Hi Hugi, >> >> glad you're volunteering to add that variant to the wiki page :) >> >> Maik >> >> >>> Am 21.02.2019 um 18:13 schrieb Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is >>> <mailto:h...@karlmenn.is>>: >>> >>> Ya'll need Maven. >>> >>> - hugi >>> >>> >>>> On 21 Feb 2019, at 17:09, Tim Worman <li...@thetimmy.com >>>> <mailto:li...@thetimmy.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I would think, at this point, that the number of devs swapping between >>>> multiple versions of WO would be close to zero. Anyone supporting a legacy >>>> codebase will probably know what to do. Perhaps there could simply be a >>>> link to a separate article - “How to maintain multiple versions of WO." >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> >>>>> On Feb 21, 2019, at 8:10 AM, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com >>>>> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The problem is that (If I remember correctly) when you invoke ant on the >>>>> CLI, ant uses wolips.properties. it will ignore anything else. >>>>> >>>>> so if you have a wolips.543.properties and Eclipse is set up to use it, >>>>> then Eclipse is Okay, but the CLI will not use it. >>>>> >>>>> So I think it is better to NOT use the wolips.543.properties so that >>>>> installing and or compiling from Eclipse will agree with using the CLI. >>>>> >>>>> One can do whatever pleases themselves, but I think erring on the side of >>>>> consistency is more correct (betterer???)! And it is not really erring, >>>>> it is making an informed decision. >>>>> >>>>> Can you override ant’s properties? >>>>> >>>>> ant -Dproperties=wolips.543.properties >>>>> >>>>> So I agree with Markus, we should tone down the usage of .543. (multiple >>>>> versions) or at the least call it not recommended and the above is why. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 21, 2019, at 9:39 AM, Maik Musall <m...@selbstdenker.ag >>>>>> <mailto:m...@selbstdenker.ag>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Ted, >>>>>> >>>>>> I went through the install process on a clean machine, created new >>>>>> screenshots and updated the Project Wonder Installation page with that. >>>>>> But I kept the wolips.543.properties scheme that had been described >>>>>> there, even though the comments at the bottom recommend not doing that >>>>>> and ignore the versioning. I also have the impression that skipping the >>>>>> version distinction would be better. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can update that again, but I'd like a discussion about that detail >>>>>> here before. >>>>>> >>>>>> Maik >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 21.02.2019 um 05:06 schrieb Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com >>>>>>> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So I can edit some pages but not all :( >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can edit in here for instance: >>>>>>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Building+a+WebObjects+Project >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Building+a+WebObjects+Project> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> but I cannot edit here: >>>>>>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Project+Wonder+Installation >>>>>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Project+Wonder+Installation> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have always been very confused in the wiki. I know that Maik Musall >>>>>>> can edit here because it says at the top of the page: >>>>>>> last modified by Maik Musall >>>>>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/~mmusall> on Dec 01, 2017 >>>>>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/pages/diffpagesbyversion.action?pageId=1835055&selectedPageVersions=60&selectedPageVersions=61> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would be happy to help here if we can figure out how to get me edit >>>>>>> privs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ted >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2019, at 10:47 PM, Michael Sharp <getsh...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:getsh...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A wiki update would be good. I’ve updated README.md in the 4.10 repo >>>>>>>> to reference the appropriate version of Eclipse and WOLips update site >>>>>>>> URL. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Sharpy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 20 Feb 2019, at 7:03 pm, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ??? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> should the wiki be updated to reflect this URL? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I hate the idea of having to examine the mail archives to find this. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ted >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 7:38 PM, Henrique Prange <hpra...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:hpra...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Just to let you know that I've merged Michael's pull request into >>>>>>>>>> the eclipse_4_10 branch. Maik did set up a new Jenkins job to build >>>>>>>>>> from changes on that branch. You can test it by pointing your WOLips >>>>>>>>>> update site to: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/WOLips410/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/WOLips410/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It looks good on my machine. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> HP >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2019, at 7:52 PM, Michael Sharp <getsh...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:getsh...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Henrique, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, PR here https://github.com/wocommunity/wolips/pull/139 >>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/wocommunity/wolips/pull/139> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - Sharpy. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Feb 2019, at 3:11 am, Henrique Prange <hpra...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:hpra...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've pushed a new branch eclipse_4_10 to track changes and fixes >>>>>>>>>>>> for Eclipse 2018-12 momentarily. Would you mind to create a pull >>>>>>>>>>>> request? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> HP >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2019, at 10:00 PM, Michael Sharp <getsh...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:getsh...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Samuel, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m happy to create a pull request but I’m not sure there’s an >>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate destination branch at wocommunity/wolips yet. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I’d like to see jenkins.wocommunity building this too. I have >>>>>>>>>>>>> jenkins building it here with both rebel and jprofiler support, >>>>>>>>>>>>> although I’m unable to test those particular features. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Sharpy >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ps: my last message was sent from an email address that is not >>>>>>>>>>>>> registered for the list, this one should make it. It’s been a >>>>>>>>>>>>> while.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15 Feb 2019, at 1:50 am, Samuel Pelletier <sam...@samkar.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sam...@samkar.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I managed to build your branch with the readme content (There >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are too many build instruction out there...) and after fixing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the wo.root in the wobuild.property file that was not up to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> date. I built without jprofiler and without jrebel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> AddKey works again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be a good thing to create the official repo with these >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and start the automatic builds. What is the next step to put >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that in place ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samuel >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 13 févr. 2019 à 18:29, Michael Sharp <mich...@getsharp.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mich...@getsharp.org>> a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m building a WOLips4.10 variation locally from my branch at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/getsharp/wolips/tree/eclipse_4_10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/getsharp/wolips/tree/eclipse_4_10> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The changes to their internal JDT APIs (such as StubUtility) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a pretty good incentive to leave them alone all together. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Add Key and a few other broken features are fixed for me with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this build. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharpy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14 Feb 2019, at 7:37 am, Samuel Pelletier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sam...@samkar.com <mailto:sam...@samkar.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I experience Eclipse 2018-12 with WOLips and DCEVM and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest WOLips and it works quite well to date. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use the openjdk11 with DCEVM and Hotswap integrated found at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this location, it is important to use the latest (+8 at this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time) version if you use Groovy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/TravaOpenJDK/trava-jdk-11-dcevm/releases >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/TravaOpenJDK/trava-jdk-11-dcevm/releases> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This download contains the entire JVM directory, to install it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cd /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo tar zxf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Users/yourDownloadLocation/java11-openjdk-dcevm-osx.tar.gz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then go to Eclipse preferences to add the new JVM. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This JVM is for dev only, it always starts with DCEVM and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hotswap. DCEVM is a free hot code replacement like JRebel and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotSwap contains plugins to help the engine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apps compile and run faster (real or placebo effet) than my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previous setup. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only downside to date is the addKey in the WO editor that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no longer works. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It fail with java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org/eclipse/jdt/internal/corext/codemanipulation/StubUtility. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the addKey problem in WOLips, the team moved an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal classe used by this function in the AddKeyInfo class. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the import that need to change in this file. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -import >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jdt.internal.corext.codemanipulation.StubUtility; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +import org.eclipse.jdt.internal.core.manipulation.StubUtility; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My problem now is I do not have a working WOLips build >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment to test this. I tried to follow the Wiki >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction but I only get fail build du to missing something. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone has a working WOLips development setup, please >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update it with Eclipse 2018-12 and apply my patch to build a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new WOLips. This will require a new WOLips version for Eclipse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.10+ since this code will no longer works with the previous >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samuel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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