> On 21 Feb 2019, at 15:39, Maik Musall <m...@selbstdenker.ag> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ted,
> 
> I went through the install process on a clean machine, created new 
> screenshots and updated the Project Wonder Installation page with that. But I 
> kept the wolips.543.properties scheme that had been described there, even 
> though the comments at the bottom recommend not doing that and ignore the 
> versioning. I also have the impression that skipping the version distinction 
> would be better.
> 
> I can update that again, but I'd like a discussion about that detail here 
> before.
> 

I would remove all that versioning stuff. We oldies already know what we do and 
are properly set up, all others should use "the latest and greatest" WebObjects 
5.4.3 anyway. I have also streamlined the whole installation and directoy setup 
in an add-on doc to my book Learning The Wonders. Maybe add a pointer to 
https://learningthewonders.com at the top of that page? All the relevant 
chapters are freely downloadable.

---markus---

> Maik
> 
> 
>> Am 21.02.2019 um 05:06 schrieb Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com 
>> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>>:
>> 
>> So I can edit some pages but not all  :(
>> 
>> 
>> I can edit in here for instance:
>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Building+a+WebObjects+Project
>>  
>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Building+a+WebObjects+Project>
>> 
>> but I cannot edit here:
>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Project+Wonder+Installation 
>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Project+Wonder+Installation>
>> 
>> I have always been very confused in the wiki. I know that Maik Musall can 
>> edit here because it says at the top of the page:
>> last modified by Maik Musall <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/~mmusall> 
>> on Dec 01, 2017 
>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/pages/diffpagesbyversion.action?pageId=1835055&selectedPageVersions=60&selectedPageVersions=61>
>> 
>> I would be happy to help here if we can figure out how to get me edit privs.
>> 
>> Ted
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2019, at 10:47 PM, Michael Sharp <getsh...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:getsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A wiki update would be good. I’ve updated README.md in the 4.10 repo to 
>>> reference the appropriate version of Eclipse and WOLips update site URL.
>>> 
>>> - Sharpy.
>>> 
>>>> On 20 Feb 2019, at 7:03 pm, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com 
>>>> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ???
>>>> 
>>>> should the wiki be updated to reflect this URL?
>>>> 
>>>> I hate the idea of having to examine the mail archives to find  this.
>>>> 
>>>> Ted
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 7:38 PM, Henrique Prange <hpra...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:hpra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just to let you know that I've merged Michael's pull request into the 
>>>>> eclipse_4_10 branch. Maik did set up a new Jenkins job to build from 
>>>>> changes on that branch. You can test it by pointing your WOLips update 
>>>>> site to:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/WOLips410/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/
>>>>>  
>>>>> <https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/WOLips410/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/>
>>>>> 
>>>>> It looks good on my machine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> HP
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2019, at 7:52 PM, Michael Sharp <getsh...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:getsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Henrique,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you, PR here https://github.com/wocommunity/wolips/pull/139 
>>>>>> <https://github.com/wocommunity/wolips/pull/139>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Sharpy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 18 Feb 2019, at 3:11 am, Henrique Prange <hpra...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:hpra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've pushed a new branch eclipse_4_10 to track changes and fixes for 
>>>>>>> Eclipse 2018-12 momentarily. Would you mind to create a pull request?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> HP
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2019, at 10:00 PM, Michael Sharp <getsh...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:getsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Samuel,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I’m happy to create a pull request but I’m not sure there’s an 
>>>>>>>> appropriate destination branch at wocommunity/wolips yet.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I’d like to see jenkins.wocommunity building this too. I have jenkins 
>>>>>>>> building it here with both rebel and jprofiler support, although I’m 
>>>>>>>> unable to test those particular features.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Sharpy
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ps: my last message was sent from an email address that is not 
>>>>>>>> registered for the list, this one should make it. It’s been a while..
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 15 Feb 2019, at 1:50 am, Samuel Pelletier <sam...@samkar.com 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sam...@samkar.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I managed to build your branch with the readme content (There are too 
>>>>>>>>> many build instruction out there...) and after fixing the wo.root in 
>>>>>>>>> the wobuild.property file that was not up to date. I built without 
>>>>>>>>> jprofiler and without jrebel.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> AddKey works again.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It would be a good thing to create the official repo with these and 
>>>>>>>>> start the automatic builds. What is the next step to put that in 
>>>>>>>>> place ?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Samuel
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Le 13 févr. 2019 à 18:29, Michael Sharp <mich...@getsharp.org 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mich...@getsharp.org>> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I’m building a WOLips4.10 variation locally from my branch at 
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/getsharp/wolips/tree/eclipse_4_10 
>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/getsharp/wolips/tree/eclipse_4_10>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The changes to their internal JDT APIs (such as StubUtility) was a 
>>>>>>>>>> pretty good incentive to leave them alone all together.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Add Key and a few other broken features are fixed for me with this 
>>>>>>>>>> build.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sharpy.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 14 Feb 2019, at 7:37 am, Samuel Pelletier <sam...@samkar.com 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sam...@samkar.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I experience Eclipse 2018-12 with WOLips and DCEVM and the latest 
>>>>>>>>>>> WOLips and it works quite well to date.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I use the openjdk11 with DCEVM and Hotswap integrated found at this 
>>>>>>>>>>> location, it is important to use the latest (+8 at this time) 
>>>>>>>>>>> version if you use Groovy.
>>>>>>>>>>>      https://github.com/TravaOpenJDK/trava-jdk-11-dcevm/releases 
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/TravaOpenJDK/trava-jdk-11-dcevm/releases>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> This download contains the entire JVM directory, to install it :
>>>>>>>>>>>     cd /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/
>>>>>>>>>>>     sudo tar zxf 
>>>>>>>>>>> /Users/yourDownloadLocation/java11-openjdk-dcevm-osx.tar.gz
>>>>>>>>>>>     Then go to Eclipse preferences to add the new JVM.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> This JVM is for dev only, it always starts with DCEVM and Hotswap. 
>>>>>>>>>>> DCEVM is a free hot code replacement like JRebel and HotSwap 
>>>>>>>>>>> contains plugins to help the engine.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Apps compile and run faster (real or placebo effet) than my 
>>>>>>>>>>> previous setup.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The only downside to date is the addKey in the WO editor that no 
>>>>>>>>>>> longer works.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It fail with java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
>>>>>>>>>>> org/eclipse/jdt/internal/corext/codemanipulation/StubUtility. I 
>>>>>>>>>>> found the addKey problem in WOLips, the team moved an internal 
>>>>>>>>>>> classe used by this function in the AddKeyInfo class. Here is the 
>>>>>>>>>>> import that need to change in this file.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -import 
>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jdt.internal.corext.codemanipulation.StubUtility;
>>>>>>>>>>> +import org.eclipse.jdt.internal.core.manipulation.StubUtility;
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> My problem now is I do not have a working WOLips build environment 
>>>>>>>>>>> to test this. I tried to follow the Wiki instruction but I only get 
>>>>>>>>>>> fail build du to missing something.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If someone has a working WOLips development setup, please update it 
>>>>>>>>>>> with Eclipse 2018-12 and apply my patch to build a new WOLips. This 
>>>>>>>>>>> will require a new WOLips version for Eclipse 4.10+ since this code 
>>>>>>>>>>> will no longer works with the previous version.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Samuel
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