Well, it’s a team job for sure. There’s tough programming in WO - components, frameworks, inheritance and trickery.
There’s tough programming in javascript - not just implementation, but identifying the original designs and retrofitting something that seamlessly enhances Wonder projects simply by linking to the frameworks…serious wizardry. There’s tough programming in D2W, stuff that I was shocked to see! The trouble was not understanding any particular rule, although there were some (a lot?) that I was amazed by — but actually understanding the bigger picture of how they FIT these frameworks right into the Wonder stuff - link and unlink and magic comes and goes. So, if it were to be done, it would have to be US that does it! It’s a really hard task… I wish I had a suggestion, because I believe it is THAT important. > On Oct 29, 2019, at 9:18 AM, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > do you think it would be possible to find someone that CAN do the work, and > then set up a fund me instance so we could pay him/her? > > I would put money into this if I thought there were others that would also > add funds! > > Ted > >> On Oct 29, 2019, at 9:08 AM, Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev >> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote: >> >> Yes, I recall something about show/hide but it’s fuzzy now. >> >> I did however, conclude that we are all hosed! >> >> The value of things like the AJAX list panel that can load up new batches or >> a tab panel that reloads like magic? >> >> These old Ajax frameworks have tricks to override rules in D2W so simply >> adding the framework inserts itself into the interface frameworks >> beautifully. >> >> Then I went into the AJAX frameworks to trace the code and found the group >> of them to be deeply intertwined, and the code depends on long hierarchies >> of those too-long-inheritance chains that we’ve all seen arise over time. >> You just keep going into superviews and different WOD bindings until you are >> lost. >> >> I strongly sense we’d have to quite literally rewrite a batch of related >> frameworks -- and we’d have to be able to use the same code/D2W trickery to >> make the new frameworks ride on top of our apps seamlessly. >> >> However, it IS possible to do! >> >> I wish I had a solution to this problem. >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 8:57 AM, René Bock <b...@salient-doremus.de> wrote: >>> >>> Well, you may use both frameworks, prototyps.js and jQuery if you use >>> jQuery in non-conflict mode (because both frameworks defines the variable $ >>> as shortcut) >>> >>> We had some additional issues when using the bootstrap framework, as >>> prototypes.js add functions like show, hide, toggle to each element. >>> >>>> Am 29.10.2019 um 12:55 schrieb Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev >>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>: >>>> >>>> I have trouble with this as well, the older code conflicts with newer >>>> jQuery based stuff. >>>> >>>> So bad, that it will eventually stop your work because some bugs are >>>> critical and you’ll not be able to work around them. >>>> >>>> I’ve found that the code way back in those Ajax frameworks is indeed >>>> amazing but also unreadable and unmaintainable. >>>> >>>> In fact, I believe there is no way with our current resources that WO >>>> folks will overcome this critical issue — our legacy is dragging us down. >>>> >>>> If anyone can figure this out, or even has ideas or wants to try — I’m up >>>> for it, but I’ve found myself that the weight is impossibly heavy. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 3:18 AM, Jérémy DE ROYER via Webobjects-dev >>>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Log time ago (10/2014), there was an old thread around migrating ajax >>>>> from prototype to jquery as : >>>>> - prototype is out of date >>>>> - we « all » use jQuery to deal with ajax-front-end-requests >>>>> >>>>> There was a link to the work made by johnny miller >>>>> https://github.com/johnnykahalawai/wonder >>>>> >>>>> To deal with ajax-back-end-requests, we currently use : >>>>> - AjaxModaDialog >>>>> - AjaxUpdateContainer >>>>> - AjaxUpdateLink >>>>> - AjaxObserveField >>>>> - AjaxSubmitButton >>>>> - AjaxLongResponse >>>>> >>>>> How do you deal with Ajax ? Still use wonder with prototype ? Any new >>>>> idea ? >>>>> >>>>> Jérémy >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/jtayler%40oeinc.com >>>>> >>>>> This email sent to jtay...@oeinc.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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