Mark Martin wrote:
>> You'll get far more results, far faster, by engaging the website
>> team directly with calm, reasoned conversation than trying to
>> escalate through governance boards & management chains which
>> cause unnecessary friction and turmoil.
>>
>> (You may not get what you want either way, but odds are better
>>  with the direct, friendly approach.)
> 
> Care to share examples where this has actually /ever/ worked?  I can
> give plenty of examples that contradict your theory.

Admittedly escalation was required to resolve the redirects issue,
but the website-discuss archives of the last two months have a lot
more issues that were resolved more quickly and amicably, such as
the fixes the website team made this morning for the test subsite css,
and last weeks fixes for the IPS package manager gui update notes issue,
and plenty of issues that were just plain bugs (or failing to handle a
wider than expected variety of input) in the migration scripts, that
were fixed in the various iterations.

As for this issue, there seems to be little hope for progress with both
sides simply currently repeating their positions.   Alan B has tried to
find out what the real requirement is, so they can work towards a solution
but hasn't gotten any answers I've seen about what they're trying to do.

The option suggested of providing a HTML -> xwiki translation script seems
a reasonable compromise to me - if the real requirement is posting documentation
generated from DocBook or something similar, then there are more options, like
a XSLT stylesheet that generates xwiki directly from DocBook, since after all
the whole point of DocBook/XML is enabling easy translation to many formats
instead of locking into HTML for everything, everywhere.

Frankly, I've got to deal with more wiki variants than I can remember all the
syntaxes for (twiki, moinmoin, mediawiki, confluence, previously tonic, now
xwiki), so I have some sympathy, but none of those sites allow raw html
(in many cases to prevent security issues or spammer abuse, especially on
publicly editable wikis), so the scripts I have to prepare data for posting
to them just generate in the needed wiki format.

-- 
        -Alan Coopersmith-           [email protected]
         Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering

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