Folks... We may be headed for a collision course with this "idle" talk of a "new " Agofe when the "REAL" Agofe, Colonel Dr. John Bart Agami, the fomer Agofe, now King of LADO encampassing the Eastern and Western Equatoria regions of South Sudan, West Nile parts (except Alur kingdom) and lugbara/Kakwa areas of Eastern Congo! The former Agofe became "king of Lado" I beleive following the reestablishment of the Kingdoms of Uganda (LoL)!!!!
Click here for details... http://www.npi-news.dk/page37.htm Excepts from the Lado Kingdoms Website...(lol) King John Bart Agami is the exiled ruler of Lado, Africa. He has proclaimed freedom from British colonial rule. He says "One hundred years of occupation is enough. My people have lost patience and want their liberation now. We have never signed any agreement with either the British or the Belgians to hand over Lado as a colony," says King John Bart Agami. "The occupation is therefore illegal, following Article 6 in the Berlin Treaty signed on 26 February 1885. " On 7/20/13, Caleb Alaka <calebal...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Sam and Aggrey, what a treatise, it is not only informative, since > Ambassador Harold is on this forum, I request that he posts his two articles > for further deliberations. We need to understand our past in order to > appreciate the future. I would also appreciate further alternative views. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 20, 2013, at 8:21 PM, samuel andema <andema...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> Dear Caleb, >> >> Thank you for inviting us to respond to this very important subject >> regarding the institution of Agofe among the Lugbara. Unfortunately, I >> seem not to have read the articles by my elder brothers Mr. Acema and Hon. >> Dr. Okuonzi or if I did, I never paid much attention to them to be able to >> respond to the specific arguments they have made. I will therefore limit >> my response to their two claims that you have alluded to, namely: 1) that >> those seeking Agofe are self seekers, 2) that the Lugbara were egalitarian >> and believed in equality. >> >> In the first place the claim that those seeking Agofe are self seekers >> without providing sufficient evidence is disrespectful to people like Mzee >> Jason Avutia (Chairman, Lugbara Elders' Association) who played crucial >> role in averting a potentially serious armed conflict between National >> Resistance Army (NRA) and the soldiers who had retreated to West Nile and >> regrouped to resist the NRA under the leadership of Brigadier Go Wilson >> Toko. The soldiers were itching to fight but when Toko convened a meeting >> with the elders from Arua District to seek their approval and blessing a >> war against the advancing NRA, they insisted that war was not the best >> option. Instead the elders offered to go to the front line with white >> flags to negotiate a peaceful entry of NRA into West Nile. As a result NRA >> entered West Nile without a single bullet which saved us from bloodshed >> and destruction of property. Had the elders not intervened and had Toko >> not listened to their wise counsel, our situation would have been worst >> than the suffering that the people of Gulu have endured for decades. >> >> It was against such a background that the need for a more structured >> cultural institution among Lugbara elders arose to facilitate coordination >> and mobilization to respond to common challenges and threats. It is >> important to appreciate the historical context in which Agofe evolved to >> constructively discuss its merits and demerits. This is not to say that >> there can be no self seekers in such an organization. Definitely like any >> organization there will always be some individuals who would want to take >> advantage of such an institution to advance their selfish interests at the >> expense of a common good. With time such self seekers and their selfish >> schemes will be exposed. In my view, the question should be how we as >> young people can build on what the elders have done but not to tear it >> down for equally selfish reasons. We should be discussing how we can make >> the Agofe more democratic, transparent, and all inclusive. The >> constitution of Uganda recognizes cultural institutions as legitimate >> institutions to play complementary roles in promoting unity and service >> delivery. The Agofe can play an important role in resolving conflicts and >> fostering unity, preserving our institution memory through artifacts, >> promoting our cultural identity, promoting tourism, developing language >> etc. >> >> While I agree with Acema and Okuonzi that the Lugbara were generally >> viewed as an egalitarian society by the dawn of colonialism, I do not >> subscribe to the notion that social formation among the Lugbara >> communities was static and the institutions of leadership would not have >> grown beyond clans. In fact to the contrary, colonialism came in as a >> disruption to state formation among communities of West Nile as Ahluwalia >> (1995) and Leopold (2005) accurately describe in their books entitled >> "Plantation and the Politics of Sugar in Uganda" and "Inside West Nile" >> respectively which I encourage those interested in the history of our >> people to read. Copies of these books can be found in Aristock Bookshop in >> Kampala. Our challenge is that we have a poor reading culture which limits >> our ability to objectively examine documentary evidence to make plausible >> arguments. >> >> I would like to conclude by suggesting that the executive of this forum >> should consider organizing an event in form of a workshop or a conference >> in which people with strong views about the notion of Agofe can be invited >> to present alternative views based on research evidence. I would be >> willing to offer my own perspective to the discussions. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Sam >> >> >> >> Subject: [WestNileNet] Do the Lugbara need a traditional Chief >> >> >> Some time ago, Ambassador Achema Harold, opined in one of the dailies that >> those seeking Agofe are self seekers, that the Lugbara were egalitarian >> and believed in equality. Hon Dr. Okuonzi MP Vura rebutted the same, and >> supported the idea, it is not the most pressing issue we have, Sam Andema >> and father Ruffino and others what is your take on this matter. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> WestNileNet mailing list >> WestNileNet@kym.net >> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >> >> WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >> attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any >> way. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WestNileNet mailing list >> WestNileNet@kym.net >> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >> >> WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >> attachments if any). 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