Caleb, I beleive Yosa Wawa's manuscript is on Kakwa proverbs. Wawa is on this group and can confirm. It is Juma Yuga Onziga who has authored a book and researched extensively about the Kakwa. His work can be viewed via his website:
http://www.kakwa.org/ Enjoy, c ====================== On 7/21/13, Caleb Alaka <calebal...@yahoo.com> wrote: > David, I think now you are talking, we may as a foundation in future fund a > student to undertake her or his thesis preferable at a Masters level about > the origin, social, political and cultural formation of the West Nile > citizens. I know there are books about the origin of people of West Nile but > most of them are whites writing about us. It's high time. I think Yosa Wawa > has some book about the Kakwa, I do not know whether it has been published > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 21, 2013, at 11:35 AM, David Olema <davidol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> Dear all, this is a healthy discussion. Is it possible to involve the >> district Councillors in charge of community development involved? These >> representatives may help us put together some useful information to >> triangulate the two strong opposing opinions. On Sunday 14/07/2013, a >> colleague of mine and I were invited to address St. Joseph's College >> Ombaci students cultural group hailing from Terego county on, embracing a >> culture of hard work as the only way out of poverty, at Cilio Primary >> school and here we encountered an amazing who narrated to the audience the >> origin of the Terego and many other "groups" in West Nile. I personally >> asked the Councillor of Oriama sub-county (Mr. Saka) to organise to >> capture this story on vedio. At this point I also recalled my experience >> at the national museum where I noticed that many of our (Lugbara) >> artifacts were missing. To cut the long story short, I think we need to >> take a deliberate step to piece together our history and origin. This is >> good for us and our children. I now call upon anthropologists, >> sociologists and historians among us to take up challenge as a matter of >> urgency. Once again I want to thank all of you on this forum for this >> constructive debate. I appeal to all of us to keep it health and remain >> open minded. Thank you. >> >> >> From: samuel andema <andema...@yahoo.co.uk> >> To: Caleb Alaka <calebal...@yahoo.com>; A Virtual Network for friends of >> West Nile <westnilenet@kym.net> >> Sent: Sunday, 21 July 2013, 9:40 >> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Do the Lugbara need a traditional Chief >> >> Hi Caleb, >> >> Thanks for appreciating our humble opinions. I would also like to thank >> our brothers Mr. Acema and Hon. Okuonzi for initiating this debate. Let >> others feel free to give their perspectives to the issues being raised in >> order to enrich our understanding. Such debates are healthy because they >> help us to understand ourselves better. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Sam Andema >> >> From: Caleb Alaka <calebal...@yahoo.com> >> To: samuel andema <andema...@yahoo.co.uk>; A Virtual Network for friends >> of West Nile <westnilenet@kym.net> >> Cc: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <westnilenet@kym.net> >> Sent: Saturday, 20 July 2013, 14:29 >> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Do the Lugbara need a traditional Chief >> >> Sam and Aggrey, what a treatise, it is not only informative, since >> Ambassador Harold is on this forum, I request that he posts his two >> articles for further deliberations. We need to understand our past in >> order to appreciate the future. I would also appreciate further >> alternative views. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 20, 2013, at 8:21 PM, samuel andema <andema...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> Dear Caleb, >>> >>> Thank you for inviting us to respond to this very important subject >>> regarding the institution of Agofe among the Lugbara. Unfortunately, I >>> seem not to have read the articles by my elder brothers Mr. Acema and >>> Hon. Dr. Okuonzi or if I did, I never paid much attention to them to be >>> able to respond to the specific arguments they have made. I will >>> therefore limit my response to their two claims that you have alluded to, >>> namely: 1) that those seeking Agofe are self seekers, 2) that the Lugbara >>> were egalitarian and believed in equality. >>> >>> In the first place the claim that those seeking Agofe are self seekers >>> without providing sufficient evidence is disrespectful to people like >>> Mzee Jason Avutia (Chairman, Lugbara Elders' Association) who played >>> crucial role in averting a potentially serious armed conflict between >>> National Resistance Army (NRA) and the soldiers who had retreated to West >>> Nile and regrouped to resist the NRA under the leadership of Brigadier Go >>> Wilson Toko. The soldiers were itching to fight but when Toko convened a >>> meeting with the elders from Arua District to seek their approval and >>> blessing a war against the advancing NRA, they insisted that war was not >>> the best option. Instead the elders offered to go to the front line with >>> white flags to negotiate a peaceful entry of NRA into West Nile. As a >>> result NRA entered West Nile without a single bullet which saved us from >>> bloodshed and destruction of property. Had the elders not intervened and >>> had Toko not listened to their wise counsel, our situation would have >>> been worst than the suffering that the people of Gulu have endured for >>> decades. >>> >>> It was against such a background that the need for a more structured >>> cultural institution among Lugbara elders arose to facilitate >>> coordination and mobilization to respond to common challenges and >>> threats. It is important to appreciate the historical context in which >>> Agofe evolved to constructively discuss its merits and demerits. This is >>> not to say that there can be no self seekers in such an organization. >>> Definitely like any organization there will always be some individuals >>> who would want to take advantage of such an institution to advance their >>> selfish interests at the expense of a common good. With time such self >>> seekers and their selfish schemes will be exposed. In my view, the >>> question should be how we as young people can build on what the elders >>> have done but not to tear it down for equally selfish reasons. We should >>> be discussing how we can make the Agofe more democratic, transparent, and >>> all inclusive. The constitution of Uganda recognizes cultural >>> institutions as legitimate institutions to play complementary roles in >>> promoting unity and service delivery. The Agofe can play an important >>> role in resolving conflicts and fostering unity, preserving our >>> institution memory through artifacts, promoting our cultural identity, >>> promoting tourism, developing language etc. >>> >>> While I agree with Acema and Okuonzi that the Lugbara were generally >>> viewed as an egalitarian society by the dawn of colonialism, I do not >>> subscribe to the notion that social formation among the Lugbara >>> communities was static and the institutions of leadership would not have >>> grown beyond clans. In fact to the contrary, colonialism came in as a >>> disruption to state formation among communities of West Nile as Ahluwalia >>> (1995) and Leopold (2005) accurately describe in their books entitled >>> "Plantation and the Politics of Sugar in Uganda" and "Inside West Nile" >>> respectively which I encourage those interested in the history of our >>> people to read. Copies of these books can be found in Aristock Bookshop >>> in Kampala. Our challenge is that we have a poor reading culture which >>> limits our ability to objectively examine documentary evidence to make >>> plausible arguments. >>> >>> I would like to conclude by suggesting that the executive of this forum >>> should consider organizing an event in form of a workshop or a conference >>> in which people with strong views about the notion of Agofe can be >>> invited to present alternative views based on research evidence. I would >>> be willing to offer my own perspective to the discussions. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Sam >>> >>> >>> >>> Subject: [WestNileNet] Do the Lugbara need a traditional Chief >>> >>> >>> Some time ago, Ambassador Achema Harold, opined in one of the dailies >>> that those seeking Agofe are self seekers, that the Lugbara were >>> egalitarian and believed in equality. Hon Dr. Okuonzi MP Vura rebutted >>> the same, and supported the idea, it is not the most pressing issue we >>> have, Sam Andema and father Ruffino and others what is your take on this >>> matter. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WestNileNet mailing list >>> WestNileNet@kym.net >>> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >>> >>> WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>> >>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >>> attachments if any). 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