Having sitelinks to redirects in my wikipedia makes it easier for other
wikipedias to link to my wikipedia.

If I dont care about that then I may delete those redirects from my
wikipedia and the sitelink to my wikipedia will go too.

The wikipedias have the final say on what they do and do not include.

Joe
On 16 Oct 2014 20:51, "P. Blissenbach" <pu...@web.de> wrote:

> Hi Jane,
>
> > I don't think there is any Wikimedia project that actively deletes
> redirects.
>
> You don't have to believe me. Just check the delete logs. There are tens
> of thousands of deleted redirects. Because they were cluttering "Allpages"
> lists. Because they were common spelling mistakes and "we do not support
> mistaken spellings". Because
>
> > people also use redirects as a way of "bundling concepts"
>
> in a wrong way (Looking for a scientific term and landing on the vita of
> the scientist whom it is attributed to, for instance, is annoying) ... and
> so on.
>
> So this redicet idea is not suited for all Wikipedias.
>
> Purodha
>
>
> "Jane Darnell" <jane...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Purodha,
> Redirects are cheap - so cheap in fact, that they take up more space when
> you delete them, so even if they are misspelled or whatever, they are
> mostly left to rot unless they break something (for example when someone
> wants to use a redlink like [[redlink]] and someone else makes a redirect
> for "redlink"). I don't think there is any Wikimedia project that actively
> deletes redirects.
>
> In general, redirects are supposed to be used as alternate names for the
> same thing, and in Wikidata, this is done by typing in alternate labels. Of
> course people also use redirects as a way of "bundling concepts" - just
> take a look at all the redirects to the article for "insurance" for all the
> types of insurance that don't yet have their own article.
>
> Before Wikidata there were lots of interwiki links to redirects, and this
> caused multiple issues with unresolvable interwikilinks. Wikidata was
> invented to be able to use persistent identifiers for Wikipedia articles.
> Now everyone is surprised that now the interwikilinks work differently from
> before. The fact that redirects are not supported is by design and not a
> bug. Going forward, instead of making redirects, Wikidatans should just
> keep creating items in Wikidata and let the Wikipedias take care of
> themselves by letting them create articles and redirects in the normal wiki
> way. It should not be a goal for Wikidata to sitelink to every redirect in
> every Wikipedia, just as it is not a goal to sitelink to every image on
> Wikimedia Commons.
>
> The subject at hand in this email thread is that instead of creating an
> article, the user ThurnerRupert made a redirect in the German Wikipedia
> called "afrikanische Pflaume" that links to "Prunus" and expected to be
> able to interwikilink this redirect via the Wikidata item for "African
> Plum" to the French Wikipedia's article for "safou". I would say that
> Wikidata should not support this workflow and it is incorrect editing
> behavior. This has nothing to do with the numbers of redirects or whether
> or not they need to be deleted by anybody.
>
> Jane
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 6:09 PM, P. Blissenbach <pu...@web.de> wrote:I do
> not mind having huge numbers of redirects at all, but you must be aware
> that there are wikipedias the powers of which will stubbornly and
> customarily delete such redirects when you create them. So that cannot be a
> solutiion for all.
>
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