Thanks Rob... That's an easier table to use...
Peter On Nov 4, 12:50 pm, "Robert Kruhlak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Liz, > > WE is running a simple table extension (formerly called tabbeddata) > that makes it "simpler" to add data to a table. > > To make a table that uses commas for separating columns and <return> > for the rows, try: > > <tab sep=comma> > Hi, Hello, Yes > Bye, Good Night, No > </tab> > > You can find more information on the syntax and examples at: > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TabbedData > > Regards, > > Rob (aka Kruhly) > > > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:37 AM, elizabeth mbasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > I'd like to fit my text in a table. How do I do this so that it does not > > spread all over > > Liz > > > --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> From: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: !!RE: [WikiEducator] Re: Another Milestone > >> To: "WikiEducator" <wikieducator@googlegroups.com> > >> Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 10:53 AM > >> Yes, but networks are organic and fluid, focus ebbs and > >> flows. so > >> sometimes putting energy into keeping something relevant > >> and strong is > >> like paddling a canoe up stream. Turn the damn thing > >> around, let the > >> node die... Don't forget the long tail is forever... So > >> 20 years from > >> now any resource could again become popular or through time > >> this > >> thread could be referenced many times... ;) > > >> On Nov 3, 12:43 pm, "Leigh Blackall" > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > "In the beginning there was the word..." :) > > >> > In the begining there was the Internet, and the > >> ability for people to > >> > publish on it and express themselves. As epxressive > >> individuals they were > >> > small nodes, connected by way of the Internet. When > >> their connections to > >> > other nodes become stronger, they came closer > >> together. Over time (and all > >> > the right agreements) they become close in fact they > >> were indistinguishable > >> > from one another. Indivdually they grouped to form a > >> bigger node, but it is > >> > now slightly more difficult for them to connect to new > >> nodes because more of > >> > their energy is spent refering to each other and > >> keeping their bigger node > >> > connected and strong. They are starting to loose the > >> benefit of being in a > >> > long tail > >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Long_Tail>. > > >> > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Peter > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > Leigh, > > >> > > I get your point. And I do agree with you that if > >> you don't facilitate > >> > > mash-up practices you reduce connections, and > >> therefore the network > >> > > becomes smaller and restrained... openness is the > >> way... I guess these > >> > > subtleties are why so much discussion occurs > >> regarding the meaning of > >> > > open... > > >> > > I also get your point about items that connect > >> nodes vs. being the > >> > > nodes themselves. All this said I would think > >> that Lawrence Lessig at > >> > > one point would have been considered a node > >> evangelizing the benefits > >> > > of a creative commons, through time the CC has > >> become a part of the > >> > > conduit. Like flickr, it was at one time a small > >> group hacking > >> > > together a photo sharing site (there were a > >> group). Linux at one time > >> > > was an individual project... So could it be that > >> all nodes or conduit > >> > > technologies start as individuals or small > >> groups... I seek an example > >> > > where a network just appeared without it first > >> being started by a > >> > > small group or individual... > > >> > > Cheers, Peter > > >> > > On Nov 3, 12:00 pm, "Leigh Blackall" > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > > Interesting Peter, I hadn't considered > >> that list as nodes in a network. I > >> > > > suppose they are in some ways, but I have > >> always considered them as the > >> > > > things that connect the real nodes - the > >> platforms that facilitate > >> > > > communication between nodes. > > >> > > > Take your K12 project on WikiEd. I see that > >> as a node or nodes, both > >> > > > embodied in the content, and in you as the > >> personal point of contact. K12 > >> > > > may someday connect with a similar or > >> complimentary project on > >> > > Wikispaces.. > >> > > > with a particular blog post.. a Youtube > >> video.. another individual who > >> > > works > >> > > > on her own space, but through certain > >> technologies - feeds into K12... > >> > > etc. > >> > > > This same networking of information and > >> people can happen inside a single > >> > > > platform such as Wikieducator - but I would > >> question its capacities if it > >> > > > where only inside Wikied. > > >> > > > Things that make the networked > >> "mission" succeed: Using digital formats > >> > > > published openly online. Use of CC By to > >> unrestrict reuse and sampling (I > >> > > > suspect copyright will be a thing of the > >> past in the not too distant > >> > > future, > >> > > > if Google's approach to it is anything > >> to go by). > > >> > > > Trappings that can undo the flexibility of a > >> network: Prescribing certain > >> > > > practices - such as CC By, Open Format > >> Standards or Open Source Software > >> > > (as > >> > > > much as I appreciate their worth, the loss > >> in potential connections is > >> > > too > >> > > > great if we insist on these too much). Not > >> facilitating "mashup" > >> > > practices > >> > > > (embedding 3rd party media). Centralising > >> services. Policies that police, > >> > > > and so on. > > >> > > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:12 AM, Peter > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > > > Leigh, > >> > > > > Most Excellent. I agree its time for > >> those who have been following > >> > > > > this thread to watch (or re-watch) the > >> Downes video; > > >> >http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4126240905912531540 > >> > > > > And I would agree I see a GROUP > >> entrenching itself within WE. Not that > >> > > > > this is a bad thing, it just is. > >> Though, I do believe a network > >> > > > > approach will have greater success in > >> meeting the WE mission. WE can > >> > > > > only hope that the council also sees it > >> this way, or maybe they will > >> > > > > see having a group approach is best for > >> meeting the challenges of the > >> > > > > WE mission. I think that encouraging a > >> NETWORK of educators to utilize > >> > > > > the WE infrastructure, and then > >> everyone (WE Council, Etc...) gets out > >> > > > > of the way is the best (re: like > >> WIkiSpaces). In relation to the group > >> > > > > vs. network and the "ills" > >> within a group (control, resources, etc...) > >> > > > > It makes me wonder if this is how > >> Minhaaj sees profiteering? > > >> > > > > A few question that come from all this; > >> Can a resource node on the > >> > > > > network be started by a network? Or > >> have all resource nodes grown out > >> > > > > of the efforts of an individual or > >> small group? If you look at the > >> > > > > current set or resource nodes, most of > >> them grew from the efforts of > >> > > > > an individual or small group. Maybe > >> this is the natural lifecycle of a > >> > > > > network node. And the challenge for any > >> node is to transition from > >> > > > > starting as a group, letting go, and > >> becoming a network node... > > >> > > > > (Examples of resource nodes starting > >> from individuals or small groups > >> > > > > would be; Skype, OCW, CCK08, Wikipedia, > >> Wikispaces, Delicious, Flickr, > >> > > > > CC...) So what do you think, do all > >> network nodes start out as small > >> > > > > groups? > > >> > > > > As another Canadian, Thank-you...I > >> certainly hope this thread plants > >> > > > > some seeds and allows this important > >> discussion to become a part of > >> > > > > the WE consciousness. > > >> > > > > Sincerely, Peter > > >> > > > > On Nov 3, 1:06 am, "Leigh > >> Blackall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > > > > Peter, I sense you have it. That > >> makes me happy :) > > >> > > > > > I am just back from a walk in the > >> mountains, and struggle to find the > >> > > > > > motivation to explain this any > >> more. I'm satisfied that I've at least > >> > > > > > communicated my thoughts to Peter, > >> and hope he'll carry the ball > >> > > further. > >> > > > > I > >> > > > > > will recommend for a third time to > >> watch Downes video explaining the > >> > > > > tension > >> > > > > > between groups and networks, and > >> reflect on the controlling > >> > > influences > >> > > > > that > >> > > > > > groups have on us individually - > >> especially Wikieducator. Sorry if > >> > > you > >> > > > > all > >> > > > > > have watched it - I just see > >> little evidence of it. > > >> > > > > > Legs so sore I can barely keep the > >> laptop on my lap! Face burnt, > >> > > mouth > >> > > > > dry, > >> > > > > > boots wet. I'll sleep well > >> tonight! > > >> > > > > > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 6:18 AM, > >> Derek Chirnside > > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > >> > > > > > > Well well. Saturday, 6.01am > >> here, just off to the Coast with two > >> > > > > bands, > >> > > > > > > one classic rock and one > >> progressive rock to play 7 hours at the > >> > > Empire > >> > > > > > > Hotel during the 6,000 people > >> Ross Fireworks Festival, hay fever > >> > > > > disenhanced > >> > > > > > > (severely today), and very > >> very tired after the decision this week > >> > > in > >> > > > > the > >> > > > > > > Moodle trial here and the > >> huge amount of work leading up to this. > > >> > > > > > > Then this post comes. The > >> first words where I think I really can > >> > > > > engage > >> > > > > > > wkith this fascinating > >> discussion, possibly at the risk of missing > >> > > the > >> > > > > > > point, but I do have some > >> things to say. > >> > > > > > > I'm based at an unusual > >> institution. They will give us the OK to > >> > > start > >> > > > > of > >> > > > > > > UCTL.canterbury.ac.nz as a > >> little fun thing, to give away all the > >> > > work > >> > > > > > > from one of my recent > >> projects, yet quibble > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
