Hi Liz, WE is running a simple table extension (formerly called tabbeddata) that makes it "simpler" to add data to a table.
To make a table that uses commas for separating columns and <return> for the rows, try: <tab sep=comma> Hi, Hello, Yes Bye, Good Night, No </tab> You can find more information on the syntax and examples at: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TabbedData Regards, Rob (aka Kruhly) On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:37 AM, elizabeth mbasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > I'd like to fit my text in a table. How do I do this so that it does not > spread all over > Liz > > > --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> From: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: !!RE: [WikiEducator] Re: Another Milestone >> To: "WikiEducator" <wikieducator@googlegroups.com> >> Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 10:53 AM >> Yes, but networks are organic and fluid, focus ebbs and >> flows. so >> sometimes putting energy into keeping something relevant >> and strong is >> like paddling a canoe up stream. Turn the damn thing >> around, let the >> node die... Don't forget the long tail is forever... So >> 20 years from >> now any resource could again become popular or through time >> this >> thread could be referenced many times... ;) >> >> On Nov 3, 12:43 pm, "Leigh Blackall" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > "In the beginning there was the word..." :) >> > >> > In the begining there was the Internet, and the >> ability for people to >> > publish on it and express themselves. As epxressive >> individuals they were >> > small nodes, connected by way of the Internet. When >> their connections to >> > other nodes become stronger, they came closer >> together. Over time (and all >> > the right agreements) they become close in fact they >> were indistinguishable >> > from one another. Indivdually they grouped to form a >> bigger node, but it is >> > now slightly more difficult for them to connect to new >> nodes because more of >> > their energy is spent refering to each other and >> keeping their bigger node >> > connected and strong. They are starting to loose the >> benefit of being in a >> > long tail >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Long_Tail>. >> > >> > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Peter >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > Leigh, >> > >> > > I get your point. And I do agree with you that if >> you don't facilitate >> > > mash-up practices you reduce connections, and >> therefore the network >> > > becomes smaller and restrained... openness is the >> way... I guess these >> > > subtleties are why so much discussion occurs >> regarding the meaning of >> > > open... >> > >> > > I also get your point about items that connect >> nodes vs. being the >> > > nodes themselves. All this said I would think >> that Lawrence Lessig at >> > > one point would have been considered a node >> evangelizing the benefits >> > > of a creative commons, through time the CC has >> become a part of the >> > > conduit. Like flickr, it was at one time a small >> group hacking >> > > together a photo sharing site (there were a >> group). Linux at one time >> > > was an individual project... So could it be that >> all nodes or conduit >> > > technologies start as individuals or small >> groups... I seek an example >> > > where a network just appeared without it first >> being started by a >> > > small group or individual... >> > >> > > Cheers, Peter >> > >> > > On Nov 3, 12:00 pm, "Leigh Blackall" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > Interesting Peter, I hadn't considered >> that list as nodes in a network. I >> > > > suppose they are in some ways, but I have >> always considered them as the >> > > > things that connect the real nodes - the >> platforms that facilitate >> > > > communication between nodes. >> > >> > > > Take your K12 project on WikiEd. I see that >> as a node or nodes, both >> > > > embodied in the content, and in you as the >> personal point of contact. K12 >> > > > may someday connect with a similar or >> complimentary project on >> > > Wikispaces.. >> > > > with a particular blog post.. a Youtube >> video.. another individual who >> > > works >> > > > on her own space, but through certain >> technologies - feeds into K12... >> > > etc. >> > > > This same networking of information and >> people can happen inside a single >> > > > platform such as Wikieducator - but I would >> question its capacities if it >> > > > where only inside Wikied. >> > >> > > > Things that make the networked >> "mission" succeed: Using digital formats >> > > > published openly online. Use of CC By to >> unrestrict reuse and sampling (I >> > > > suspect copyright will be a thing of the >> past in the not too distant >> > > future, >> > > > if Google's approach to it is anything >> to go by). >> > >> > > > Trappings that can undo the flexibility of a >> network: Prescribing certain >> > > > practices - such as CC By, Open Format >> Standards or Open Source Software >> > > (as >> > > > much as I appreciate their worth, the loss >> in potential connections is >> > > too >> > > > great if we insist on these too much). Not >> facilitating "mashup" >> > > practices >> > > > (embedding 3rd party media). Centralising >> services. Policies that police, >> > > > and so on. >> > >> > > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:12 AM, Peter >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > Leigh, >> > > > > Most Excellent. I agree its time for >> those who have been following >> > > > > this thread to watch (or re-watch) the >> Downes video; >> > > > >> >http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4126240905912531540 >> > > > > And I would agree I see a GROUP >> entrenching itself within WE. Not that >> > > > > this is a bad thing, it just is. >> Though, I do believe a network >> > > > > approach will have greater success in >> meeting the WE mission. WE can >> > > > > only hope that the council also sees it >> this way, or maybe they will >> > > > > see having a group approach is best for >> meeting the challenges of the >> > > > > WE mission. I think that encouraging a >> NETWORK of educators to utilize >> > > > > the WE infrastructure, and then >> everyone (WE Council, Etc...) gets out >> > > > > of the way is the best (re: like >> WIkiSpaces). In relation to the group >> > > > > vs. network and the "ills" >> within a group (control, resources, etc...) >> > > > > It makes me wonder if this is how >> Minhaaj sees profiteering? >> > >> > > > > A few question that come from all this; >> Can a resource node on the >> > > > > network be started by a network? Or >> have all resource nodes grown out >> > > > > of the efforts of an individual or >> small group? If you look at the >> > > > > current set or resource nodes, most of >> them grew from the efforts of >> > > > > an individual or small group. Maybe >> this is the natural lifecycle of a >> > > > > network node. And the challenge for any >> node is to transition from >> > > > > starting as a group, letting go, and >> becoming a network node... >> > >> > > > > (Examples of resource nodes starting >> from individuals or small groups >> > > > > would be; Skype, OCW, CCK08, Wikipedia, >> Wikispaces, Delicious, Flickr, >> > > > > CC...) So what do you think, do all >> network nodes start out as small >> > > > > groups? >> > >> > > > > As another Canadian, Thank-you...I >> certainly hope this thread plants >> > > > > some seeds and allows this important >> discussion to become a part of >> > > > > the WE consciousness. >> > >> > > > > Sincerely, Peter >> > >> > > > > On Nov 3, 1:06 am, "Leigh >> Blackall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > > > Peter, I sense you have it. That >> makes me happy :) >> > >> > > > > > I am just back from a walk in the >> mountains, and struggle to find the >> > > > > > motivation to explain this any >> more. I'm satisfied that I've at least >> > > > > > communicated my thoughts to Peter, >> and hope he'll carry the ball >> > > further. >> > > > > I >> > > > > > will recommend for a third time to >> watch Downes video explaining the >> > > > > tension >> > > > > > between groups and networks, and >> reflect on the controlling >> > > influences >> > > > > that >> > > > > > groups have on us individually - >> especially Wikieducator. Sorry if >> > > you >> > > > > all >> > > > > > have watched it - I just see >> little evidence of it. >> > >> > > > > > Legs so sore I can barely keep the >> laptop on my lap! Face burnt, >> > > mouth >> > > > > dry, >> > > > > > boots wet. I'll sleep well >> tonight! >> > >> > > > > > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 6:18 AM, >> Derek Chirnside >> > > > > > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > Well well. Saturday, 6.01am >> here, just off to the Coast with two >> > > > > bands, >> > > > > > > one classic rock and one >> progressive rock to play 7 hours at the >> > > Empire >> > > > > > > Hotel during the 6,000 people >> Ross Fireworks Festival, hay fever >> > > > > disenhanced >> > > > > > > (severely today), and very >> very tired after the decision this week >> > > in >> > > > > the >> > > > > > > Moodle trial here and the >> huge amount of work leading up to this. >> > >> > > > > > > Then this post comes. The >> first words where I think I really can >> > > > > engage >> > > > > > > wkith this fascinating >> discussion, possibly at the risk of missing >> > > the >> > > > > > > point, but I do have some >> things to say. >> > > > > > > I'm based at an unusual >> institution. They will give us the OK to >> > > start >> > > > > of >> > > > > > > UCTL.canterbury.ac.nz as a >> little fun thing, to give away all the >> > > work >> > > > > > > from one of my recent >> projects, yet quibble over pixel widths on >> > > > > learning >> > > > > > > pages with branding, and >> force a 12 month process when 2 weeks >> > > would >> > > > > really >> > > > > > > be enough to make a decision. >> etc. A place of contradictions >> > > where I >> > > > > am a >> > > > > > > minion. Some things (only >> some things) are not the best, but I'm >> > > > > finding >> > > > > > > (vaguely)a place there. >> > >> > > > > > > I'm a dabbler in WE. In >> and out like a yo yo - committed to OER >> > > but >> > > > > like >> > > > > > > some other software >> develiopers, mistaking a clear view of the goal >> > > > > with the >> > > > > > > closeness of it. Some of >> your comments probably resonate about why >> > > I >> > > > > find >> > > > > > > it hard at times in the WE >> OER environment. >> > >> > > > > > > BUT: I can't post now >> more, got to pack trailors etc, and I'll be >> > > away >> > > > > from >> > > > > > > any internet for 36 hours. >> > > > > > > The crunch came three weeks >> ago. I was off to do a reccee for the >> > > Ross >> > > > > > > trip to the Coast. At 27 >> hours notice I got a call to run 2 >> > > Podcasting >> > > > > > > workshops on the coast. I >> was already going, so hey, I thought, >> > > lets >> > > > > do it. >> > > > > > > Where to put it was my query? >> WE was obvious. Checked out the >> > > > > podcasting >> > > > > > > stuff. Tried to decide what >> to do. Fiddle with it? Copy and >> > > adapt >> > > > > it? >> > > > > > > Work with Podcasting to >> create Derek's Podcasting. I had no time >> > > to do >> > > > > it >> > > > > > > this way. How to name my >> pages? How to cluster them? How much to >> > > > > > > contextualise? Who owns the >> page 'podcasting workshop' and can I >> > > > > fiddle >> > > > > > > with it? Should I start one >> as well? >> > >> > > > > > > This is a trivial context I >> know, but they made me face a few of >> > > these >> > > > > > > questions you are debating >> here. >> > >> > > > > > > OK. Unfinished. >> > > > > > > But I have broken the ice. >> I'll be back. >> > > > > > > If the discussion has not >> moved on two much I'll post tomorrow >> > > > > afternoon. >> > > > > > > I may post even if it has. >> :-) >> > >> > > > > > > -Derek >> > >> > > > > > > 2008/10/31 Alex P. Real >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> > > > > > > Hi Leigh, >> > >> > > > > > >> Beautiful response, I >> really appreciate it <smile>. The scenario >> > > > > > >> >> product/maintainer/tradeoff is recurrent in many realms, not >> just >> > > > > software. >> > > > > > >> I can only agree to your >> reading on collaborative editing, the >> > > main >> > > > > reason >> > > > > > >> why I've refrained >> from contributing contents, to see how things >> > > work >> > > > > and >> > > > > > >> avoid potential >> uneasiness >> > >> > ... >> > >> > read more ยป >> > > > > > > -- Robert Kruhlak Burnaby, BC CANADA (M) +1 778 230 1875 (E) [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
