UTRS was created because handling ip unblock requests on OTRS would violate
our privacy policy
On Sep 12, 2012 6:17 PM, "Thomas Morton" <morton.tho...@googlemail.com>
wrote:

> On 12 September 2012 17:08, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 12 September 2012 16:50, Matthew Jacobs <sxeptoman...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > One problem with that approach is that OTRS is not seen as
> representative
> > > of WP; the administrators are. If the admins are widely perceived as
> > being
> > > dicks (probably because way to many of them behave like dicks a large
> > > portion of the time), then OTRS is going to continue to be ineffective
> at
> > > changing the perception of WP as unfriendly and more concerned with
> > > protecting territory than having accurate information.
> >
> >
> > I think that's a bit of an inside view. The outside world can't tell
> > an admin from a non-admin, there aren't generally little tags on
> > people's sigs. So the problem is more general dickishness, not
> > specifically admin dickishness.
> >
> > As far as I can tell, outsiders like to have someone central to
> > approach, e.g. the email address.
> >
> > (I vaguely understand someone gave Roth/his biographer the wrong
> > answer, i.e. needing a secondary source rather than a referenceable
> > self-statement. That's a different problem, of course.)
> >
> >
> > - d.
> >
> >
> I figured out where; there is also UTRS (note the U) which is
> a separately maintained support tool (staffed by English Wikipedia admins)
> for  requesting unblocks.
>
> We probably need to look into how people are filtered to these things.
>
> (I also am not sure why we have UTRS over OTRS, and why the participants
> are not told to pass such issues onto OTRS who are more experienced in
> handling them).
>
> Tom
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