On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Aryeh Gregor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Brion Vibber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Aryeh Gregor wrote:
>>> They wouldn't have to click through if it was signed, would they?
>>
>> Yes they would.
>>
>> If that wasn't the case, then any web site you visited could read all
>> your files without notifying you simply by signing their malware applet.
>
> I don't know anything about Java signing; I was relying on (my
> possibly incorrect reading of) what Greg Maxwell has said in this
> thread.  I was assuming there was some kind of PKI being used here, as
> with HTTPS, so that "trusted" applets would silently run with more
> permissions.  If not, then never mind what I said above.

You get no warning *at all* on non-origin network access for applets
signed by an approved key. For example:
http://www.jcraft.com/jorbis/player/JOrbisPlayer.php?play=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fa%2Fa9%2FTromboon-sample.ogg&submit=play

I don't have direct knowledge for file access. I had assumed that it
was the same, but I'm guessing there.

For Java Web Start and complete system access I just get a fairly
friendly "This was published by Foo Corp. Do you wish to run it.  [ ]
Always trust content from Foo Corp."

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