On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Dmitriy Sintsov <ques...@rambler.ru> wrote: > * Tei <oscar.vi...@gmail.com> [Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:40:06 +0200]: >> Hello. >> >> Heres a screenshot of me editing the wikipedia: >> >> http://zerror.com/unorganized/crap/nogoodenough.png >> >> All the webmasters on this mail list will spot the problem with this >> text in 1 second: is unreadable. The space betwen lines, the lines >> length, the complexity of the text... Is really hard to read. >> A HTML textarea can server for writting emails, and simple text, but >> on this image fail short. Textareas are not designed for this, or are >> not good enough. >> >> How a webmaster can make that text better? well.. you need to stop >> using the HTML textarea widget. And emulate it with divs, css and >> javascript. You need to colorize the code. Nowdays *ALL* good code >> editors colorize code. If our code editor don't colorize the wiki >> sintax, or don't even try, our editor is bad. I could be wrong, but >> maybe [[links]] and {{templates}} can be detected and colorized. And >> since you are emulating a editor, you can add a bit of usefull >> beaviors: make so some areas are read only, so the cursor skip then. >> Oh.. and you can make the whole think AJAXified,.. so wen you click >> [Edit section] this section become editable, and wen you "save", the >> edit view send, and is replaced by the result. Why would you want to >> people bounce here and there to post stuff in 2009? >> >> He... our computers support 24 M colors, and we are showing text with >> 2 colors? pfff.... >> > I am very much supporting you! Both code colorizing and AJAX editing > preview. And maybe a links "code completion" - when yuu press [[ it will > open an JS-generated dialog with drop-down title search list. It's not > that wikitext is too hard (with the huge exception of templates) but the > editor is very much restricted.. Though templates surely aren't nice and > it's probably is better to keep them separate and XML-ize them. > Dmitriy >
For templates you can use a "Code beatiffier", that unofuscate the code. Templates can be hard to write, but theres no reason to let then be hard to read. Maybe MW already do that.. Here is a example using another template language (bbcode): [uRL]lalala[/URL] => [url]lalala[/url] [quote=Dan]blabla bla bla[/img] => [quote= Dani ] bla bla bla [/quote] I know that this maybe is a bad idea, If this may cause other problems, and theres one million others things that are worth our time :-I A serverside "Code beatifier" can also helps a clientside colorizer. He can massage the template code first, and be smarter than the colorizers and prevent problems before hit the colorizer. A code beafifier can be implemented in a incremental way, the first version can "just" lowercase all letter. The colorizer can also be implemented in a incremental way, starting colorizing simple stuff. If a colorizing or a beatifier become a problem, can be deactivated, and things will continue smoothly. -- -- ℱin del ℳensaje. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
