Taking my coc hat off, I'm not representing the committee at all. Several things have been misunderstood imo. I want to address them. 1) The use of profanity is not prohibited by the COC, using them against others or for unconstructive reasons is. If you see the whole discussion, you could clearly see the comment is not made to move discussion forward. These are clear case of disruptive actions. 1.1) the response to these violations depends on the user, very similar to what Wikipedia does. If it was the first case reported about Mz, they wouldn't get this ban. 2) the duration of block which is for one week was determined and communicated in the email. You can check the email as it's public now. 3) not being able to discuss cases clearly also bothers me too as I can't clarify points. But these secrecy is there for a reason. We have cases of sexual harassment in Wikimedia events, do you want us to communicate those too? And if not, where and who supposed to draw the line between public and non-public cases? I'm very much for more transparency but if we don't iron things out before implementing them, it will end up as a disaster.
Sent on my phone, on a vacation. Best On Wed, Aug 8, 2018, 21:49 Chad <innocentkil...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 11:48 AM bawolff <bawolff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > So MZMcBride is temporarily banned for an unspecified amount of time. > > I have some concerns: > > a) The fact all these are secret is a recipe for FUD and > > misunderstandings. From accusations of partiality of the committee to > > people being unblocked because people think its an accident, are all > > natural consequences of things being secret. I think this is bound to > > create a negative environment in the long term. > > > > This. > > > > b) What is the point of blocking him temporarily and not telling him > > how long he's banned for. That's just silly. > > > > I'm going to quote someone out of context here, but I think it establishes > the point I'd like to make: > > "temporary solutions have a terrible habit of becoming permanent, around > here" > > -Chad > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
