Hi!

I too own Window-Eyes and no offense whatever was caused by your message
<smile>, I agree with our statements and its far better to be up front and
honest - and face the facts - rather than being backward and ignoring what
stares the user in the face.

I did say in my original message that what I really liked about JAWS was
that all the features and functions I had tried just worked as the
documentation and other JAWS users said they would, that alone says volumes
about a Screen Reading solution or any other product for that matter.

Expecting someone to enable port forwarding in a Router is just plain silly,
to set up a router you do need a little technical knowledge and some
patients - assuming you can set your Router up at all as many Router systems
these days - bought straingt from an IPS for instance - are locked and
preconfigured but they sell for 2 reasons, 1 they're cheap and 2 they get
people connected to the Internet and that's what most people want, they want
the connection and not to mess with Port Forwarding or anything else -
assuming the "Mr Average" even knew what Port Forwarding meant of course
<smile> -.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of chris h (sky)
Sent: Sunday, 14 April 2013 5:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: JAWS tandem

Hello Dane and all
I admit the Tandem feature in Jaws is excellent for its purpose, to provide
support remotely to another Jaws user. This was one reason why I bought Jaws
back when it was version 10, plus a Sma, just so i can take advantage of the
Tandem function to help, amongst others, my best friend who lives all the
way in Bolton while I live in Derbyshire. I will stress this is the only,
and I mean only, time I really need Jaws. Other than that it's Nvda for me.
I also bought Window-Eyes in the hopes of taking advantage of their Remote
Assistance solution, but since later versions of 7.5, all hopes were lost,
since they now expect you or the recipient to configure the router so that
the ports are forwarded. This is ridiculous in my view and shows the lack of
respect between Gw Micro and those who do not have a clue on how to forward
ports. With Tandem, it just works. Oh and I apologize in advance if I have
offended Window-Eyes fans on here.
Chris.

On 13/04/2013 22:37, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'd like to mention a feature of JAWS I've found most useful the past
week, that's the "Tandem" functionality which allows the connecting of 2
computers via the Internet or a Local Network, obviously both computers in
question must have JAWS installed.
>
> I know of another JAWS user in the States, we've been using the Tandem
function for a variety of reasons, the main being so he can show me much of
what JAWS has to offer in the way of features, flexibility and versatility
as a Screen Reader - Tom did all the work navigating round screens and
software and I was able to follow what Tom was doing given my computer and
JAWS echoed his every move through speech output  and we were on the phone
at the time of these Tandem exercises -.
>
> JAWS Tandem is very responsive and very easy to set up, the various
dialogues and Tandem functions explain themselves and connecting 2 machines
is both fast and simple.
>
> Tom and I tried to connect 2 machines running Window-Eyes and the Remote
Connection facility offered by GW Micro, we're still trying to get a
connection established and I don't think its the firewall playing funny
buggers at my end.
>
> To be honest I think that's the thing I like about JAWS and its functions,
all functions - including JAWS Tandem - work - work well - and work as
stated, no if's and no but's.
>
>
>
> **********
>
> Dane Trethowan
> Skype: grtdane12
> Phone US (213) 438-9741
> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
>
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