Well why ask the question then if you don't suspect anything.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith Sent: Monday, 22 April 2013 11:52 AM To: Windows Access; Share Your Enthusiasm! Subject: Re: Is Jaws Tanden Safe? You're missing the point Dane. All I am asking is whether or not Freedom Scientific's server-based solution is safe. I have no reason to suspect the contrary, I'm just asking a question. So no need to get on the high horse or become all defensive, LOL. Kind regards <--- Gordon Smith ---> <[email protected]> Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 / +1 209 436 9443 Vic. Australia: +61 38 8205930 Vic. Australia +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: <http://twitter.com/maciosaccess> Skype: <skype:mac-access-dot-net?call> ------------------------------ On 22 Apr 2013, at 02:49, Dane trethowan <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not here to debate trivial points, I have a firewall and I do what > I can and in the meantime? JAWS Tandem allows others to help me and me > to help others, something you appreciate being in the teaching profession I'm sure! > > If there were any problems with security on the GW Micro or Freedom > Scientific servers and word got out? Well then they'd be hell to pay. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gordon > Smith > Sent: Monday, 22 April 2013 11:42 AM > To: Windows Access; Share Your Enthusiasm! > Subject: Re: Is Jaws Tanden Safe? > > Bigt question, how do you know it isn't? > > Kind regards > > <--- Gordon Smith ---> > > <[email protected]> > > Telephone: > > United Kingdom: Free Phone: > 0800 8620538 > > Mobile: > +44 7907 823971 > > Europe and other non-specified: > +44 1642 688095 > > United States Of America And Canada: > +1 646 9151493 > / > +1 209 436 9443 > > Vic. Australia: > +61 38 8205930 > Vic. Australia > +61 39 0284505 > > Fax: > +44 1642 365123 > > Follow Us On Twitter: > <http://twitter.com/maciosaccess> > > Skype: > <skype:mac-access-dot-net?call> > > ------------------------------ > > > > > On 22 Apr 2013, at 02:36, Dane trethowan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> No, I don't see problems with port forwarding but other people do, >> everyone isn't as Tech minded as you or I are so that's the problem, >> a lot of people can't even use their computer let alone configure a router. >> >> As for security? Well its no worse than anything else around. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gordon >> Smith >> Sent: Monday, 22 April 2013 11:33 AM >> To: Windows Access; Share Your Enthusiasm! >> Subject: Re: JAWS tandem >> >> Hi Dane >> >> What bothers me here is probably just my own paranoia. However, I >> would certainly not be comfortable with using internal network >> infrastructure functionality via a third-party server. I personally >> don't see what the problem is with forwarding one port in the > router/firewall configuration. >> After all, you yourself have used that method for years, as have many. >> I personally have used RDPm, as it used to be called, and also Citrix >> on main frame machines with a great deal of success for many years >> now. Granted, I haven't done so in a while but I'd have no problem >> trying this. I'd love to get my hands on a Jaws demo system so that >> I could try this actually. I am certainly not condemning what I >> haven't ever used. Unfortunately, however, I'm not prepared to pay >> out the license fee so I'd probably be looking to try and get it from >> Access to > Work if I could. >> >> Kind regards >> >> <--- Gordon Smith ---> >> >> <[email protected]> >> >> Telephone: >> >> United Kingdom: Free Phone: >> 0800 8620538 >> >> Mobile: >> +44 7907 823971 >> >> Europe and other non-specified: >> +44 1642 688095 >> >> United States Of America And Canada: >> +1 646 9151493 >> / >> +1 209 436 9443 >> >> Vic. Australia: >> +61 38 8205930 >> Vic. Australia >> +61 39 0284505 >> >> Fax: >> +44 1642 365123 >> >> Follow Us On Twitter: >> <http://twitter.com/maciosaccess> >> >> Skype: >> <skype:mac-access-dot-net?call> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> >> On 21 Apr 2013, at 16:04, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> If I may come in here given I think I'm responsible for starting the >> thread <smile>. >>> >>> What Gordon was using is called Remote Desktop and I understand that >> Freedom Science Fiction were charging extra for that functionality in >> JAWS etc, not sure whether this is still the case or not. >>> >>> We're talking here of JAWS Tandem - in the Window-Eyes world its >>> called >> Remote Assistance - where a user asks for help and another user "Offers" >> help, a password is then exchanged between the 2 users of tandem and >> a connection established between the 2 users via the Freedom Science >> Fiction Tandem server. >>> >>> When connection is made the user who made the "Offer" of help is >>> able to >> control the other computer and thus get feedback. >>> >>> The nice thing about Tandem - apart from the obvious power and >>> flexibility >> of the system - is that both parties don't have to do anything >> special to their systems, that is to say no ports need to be opened, >> no special Windows functions or features need to be enabled etc, wish >> I could say the same for the Window-Eyes Remote Assistance functions, >> I've managed to get the system working but it took some time, >> installing this, reinstalling that etc and even now connections are > problematic. >>> >>> >>> On 21/04/2013, at 9:00 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Chris >>>> >>>> Is this a standard function of Jaws now? I always understood it to >>>> cost >> extra. However, Gordon has had great success with Window-Eyes in this >> regard although yes, it does involve making a slight change to your >> router's configuration in most case. >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>>> On 14 Apr 2013, at 08:42, chris h (sky) <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> . I admit the Tandem feature in Jaws is excellent for its purpose, >>>>> to >> provide support remotely to another Jaws user. This was one reason >> why I bought Jaws back when it was version 10, plus a Sma, just so i >> can take advantage of the Tandem function to help, amongst others, my >> best friend who lives all the way in Bolton while I live in >> Derbyshire. I will stress this is the only, and I mean only, time I >> really need Jaws. Other than that it's Nvda for me. I also bought >> Window-Eyes in the hopes of taking advantage of their Remote >> Assistance solution, but since later versions of 7.5, all hopes were >> lost, since they now expect you or the recipient to configure the >> router so that the ports are forwarded. This is ridiculous in my view >> and shows the lack of respect between Gw Micro and those who do not >> have a clue on how to forward ports. With Tandem, it just works. 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