See inline comments please
Behalf Of Zack Kneisley
John, List.. anyone else really.
I was trying not to get into a discussion at a "12 year old level". I
merely
support anyone who feels that they want to change something, through a
structured method. Although I agree on this particular issue, making a
statement "look at our code of ethics" does not accomplish that Ralph
requested.
[Mac says]
I think our "Code of Ethics" states precisely what Ralph was looking
for. He
was looking for something that states WISPA's position on certified -vs-
non
certified gear "I would like to ask the WISPA board to publish a
position
paper on legal operation and guidelines for WISPs to use in order to
meet
the current rules" and if our Code of Ethics aren't in black and white
for
all to see then I will see if we can get them enlarged. I don't think it
can
be more readily apparent than that. Producing a "paper" would be a total
waste of time imho. If you have trouble ciphering what we
have - -another
one is not going to clarify it any better.
Is there no structure in WISPA? Is there no means to petition an
organization that supposedly "represents all wisps" to entertain the
mans
request? Is there no sturcture in WISPA that is aimed towards ratifying
or
creating a documents.
[Mac says]
I have yet to understand what anyone needs that we haven't already
made
available. Our stand is in our Code of Ethics.
I think what it comes down to is a few simple questions.
Does a member of WISPA have the right to request such a public stance?
Does WISPA have a means of debation these requests?
Is there even a process in place that could lead to a document such as
[Mac says]
See above and yes. We are here for all WISPs. That means those that are
c0mpletely illegal as well as the legal and those of us who are
somewhere
in-between or caught in the middle. If the statement that you are
looking
for from WISPA is to state that you have to be 100% legal or you can't
be a
member of the organization - - that will never happen, That would be
like
telling us sinners that we aren't welcome at church. We are a lobbying
organization and we are here to lobby whoever we can to make the changes
that we see needed to make our jobs as WISPs more successful. We have
never
had anyone to step up to the plate for us like we do at WISPA. No one
has
ever presented anything to the FCC on your (and every other WISP)
behalf,
but WISPA. We have made many trips to DC right out of our own back
pockets
because it affects us too. The truth of the matter is that the more of
us
there are all gathered under one umbrella - - the louder our voice in DC
and
the bigger impact we will have on this industry. We have the opportunity
to
shape it into a more formidable playing field for the mom & pop shop
that so
many of us are today.
We are not a police agency and we are not a reporting agency. If you
aren't
filling out your form 477 then I (and the rest of the board) will urge
you
to do so. If you aren't running FCC certified gear then I (and the rest
of
the board) will urge you to get working on that too. If you choose not
to
fill out your form 477 then we will attempt to educate you as to why you
need to be doing this. If you aren't using FCC certified gear then we
will
attempt to educate you as to your advantage of following through with
this
task as well.
We are friends with the FCC, FBI, Homeland Security as well with our
individual Congressmen and Senators. We are on the same side they are
and
are "all about" being legal, promoting legal gear and being
professionals at
what we do. I have yet to figure out where anyone came up with the idea
that
we were anything different than that!!
That's all I have to say about that! :-) (Forest - Forest Gump)
Mac Dearman
Ralph
requested?
If WISPA is not open to have a democratic way to represent the
individual
wisps, then this whole debate has no merit. If an individual that comes
to
the table with an idea, getys shutout by one person.... What type of
organization is WISPA.
I've thought of joining WISPA on several occasions, but I have yet to
see it
as an organization for WISPS, after all, given this thread, it doesn't
seem
that there is not any self governing process to ask for anything.
Unless I'm
seriously missing something, there are no processes in place that allow
a
member or non member to bring a topic to the table, and for it to be
considered as an action that WISPA should take. To myself, WISPA looks
like
an organization controlled by a handful of individuals, not by the
WISPS it
is supposed to, in its own Code of Ethecs Attempt to represent.
WISPA's Goals see:http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=6
6. Political lobbying group - Unified voice for the WISP industry
How can this be acheived when the discussion turns to name calling and
comparing the thoughts of others to 12 year olds.
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WISPA, at least make an official statement to Ralph. Either, stating
that
WISPA, (not John), believes that WISPA' ethics statement achieves the
same
goals as Ralphs request, or, that WISPA is just plain rejecting the
idea -
with an explanation why..
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Now, can you understand why their are people that would passionately
get
behind WISPA, if only an adult discussion, debate, and decision be
made.
Where is the leadership that makes these calls.. who makes these
decisions?
I'm sorry for obvious grammatical mistakes and typos, 4:00 AM comes
fast.
Zack
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