There are a number of WiMAX 3.5 GHz solutions that will tune to 3.65 just fine. I doubt that we would need to force the forum to issue a new profile for a frequency band that existing profiles already cover. As far as I am concerned WiMAX in 3.65 GHz is here in all respects and is not just marketing verbiage. Bravo to Matt Liotta on making a move that I am sure many others will follow. Way to go Matt. Scriv
Clint Ricker wrote: > Tom, > I'd agree. I'm in no way advocating marketing that is deceptive in terms of > deliverables. > > My main point is more that communications in marketing often involves using > buzzwords that coopt something someone knows for describing your product. > Even if that is, on a technical level, incorrect, on a business and > communication and marketing standpoint good practice--the reality is that > the end user understands what you are saying and more "truth" is > communicated--they better understand what to expect from your product. > > Now, using terms that mislead the customer into expecting something that it > isn't is an entirely different matter, and one that I don't advocate and, in > the end, is very detrimental. I think it comes down to the deliverables, in > that sense. > > Thanks, > Clint Ricker > -Kentnis Technologies > > > On Jan 11, 2008 11:56 AM, Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> First, two thumbs up for Matt. 1) He's leading the way to expand with new >> technologies. 2) He's clever enough to use maximize how he uses of Press >> Releases. >> >> With that said, in response to Clint, I had mixed feelings regarding the >> release. >> >> I didn't see a problem listing "Wimax" in the press release. >> Wimax/Non-Wimax, whats the difference, its wireless, its latest state of >> the >> art. All the same to the consumer. >> >> Where I saw it riding the line was stating "Granted a License". >> I believe that misleads the public to come to a false conclusion. >> There is a big difference between licensed and unlicensed in the public >> eye. >> Licensed has 100% protection, Unlicensed 100% doesn't. >> Licenses are usualy exclusive, unlicensed is not. >> 3650 light licensing is "experiental" and much closer to the >> characteristics >> of unlicensed, with registration added. >> Sure technically 3650 is licensed, but again the reader is misled to think >> the service is something more than it really is. >> >> Is that ethical? Is it deceptive? Could you here the spin? Its not >> illegal. >> Nothing was said that could be miscontrued as a lie. Is it any different >> than typical forward thinking statements of other press releases? Maybe >> just >> clever marketing? >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Clint Ricker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:15 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service >> >> >> >>> I'd like to make a point in return. >>> >>> This is a press release, and it is generally used for marketing and >>> publicity. Who the flip cares about the exact nuances in technology? >>> >> If >> >>> Matt's company expresses their product in terms that their target market >>> understands, then it is good marketing. It's not like their customers >>> >> are >> >>> going to do deep layer1 and 2 analysis to see that their bandwidth is >>> coming >>> over the "one true WiMax". If it looks like a duck and quacks like a >>> >> duck >> >>> and you're talking to kindergarteners, just go ahead and call it a duck >>> and >>> reeducate the 1/1000 of 1 percent who become ornithologists when they >>> >> grow >> >>> up and care to learn the subtle nuances. >>> >>> I know companies that sell/sold "wireless DSL". Technically, this is a >>> complete absurdity. >>> But, I'd bet that it did a good job of communicating the concept--which >>> is, >>> after all, the point of marketing. I'd imagine that they do better >>> >> then >> >>> companies that sell "High bandwidth 802.11A/B/G Data Traffic Transport >>> Solutions". >>> >>> There are service providers who still keep on trying to sell "VoIP" with >>> multi page explanations about how the analog voice get digitized, >>> packetized, encapsulated, and 20 other gazillion processes that no one >>> really cares about unless they like reading RFCs every time they make >>> >> even >> >>> mundane purchase decisions. Then there's Comcast who, while definitely >>> not >>> hurt by the existing customer base and financial resources and technical >>> infrastructure, became the fourth largest telco in quite a short amount >>> >> of >> >>> time. They did this by having the marketing common sense to sell >>> "telephone >>> service", not "Voice over IP". >>> >>> If the customers understand what Matt's product is better because he >>> >> calls >> >>> it "WiMax", then great. It sure sounds better than "Modified >>> >> pre-release >> >>> quasi 802.16". You're in business to sell products...and, that involves >>> communication. Using language that people can understand sells products >>> and, in the end, gets more "truth" across--if that is your objective >>> here--by actually communicating with people as opposed to using language >>> that people just don't understand--nor care to. >>> >>> -Clint Ricker >>> Kentnis Technologies >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 10, 2008 7:49 PM, Mike Bushard, Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Do your radios have sub channelization? >>>> >>>> I Congratulate you on the build, but I have to question if stuff like >>>> this >>>> is not part of the total misunderstanding of WiMAX (what it is and >>>> isn't). >>>> I >>>> really don't think WiMAX is the right term, Maybe WiMAX based, but it >>>> definitely is not WiMAX. >>>> >>>> We just turned up our first WiMAX base station today. Running 2.5Ghzand >>>> using 16e ready hardware. I'm Not trying to steal glory here, just >>>> >> making >> >>>> a >>>> point. >>>> >>>> >>>> Mike Bushard, Jr >>>> Wireless Network Engineer >>>> 320-256-WISP (9477) >>>> 320-256-9478 Fax >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>>> Behalf Of Matt Liotta >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:22 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: [SPAM] Re: [WISPA] [SPAM] One Ring Networks To Rollout New >>>> >> WiMAX >> >>>> Service >>>> Importance: Low >>>> >>>> Steve Stroh wrote: >>>> >>>>> Fixed WiMAX profiles for 3.5 (non-US), but NOT 3.65 GHz in the US >>>>> >>>> because >>>> of >>>> >>>>> the unique "contention protocol" requirements (systems for 3.65 GHz >>>>> >>>> should >>>> >>>>> be considered proprietary and quite possibly non-interoperable). >>>>> >>>>> >>>> The lower 25Mhz of 3.65Ghz does not have a "contention protocol" >>>> requirement. However, if the radio implements contention then it won't >>>> be restricted to the lower 25Mhz. As of today, only WiMAX radios have >>>> been certified for 3.65Ghz. >>>> >>>> -Matt >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> ---- >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> ---- >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
