I bought a DW 24ghz link for about $11k back in 10/08 2 footers with 150 Mbps capacity
Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Feb 12, 2009, at 3:34 PM, "Bob Moldashel" <lakel...@gbcx.net> wrote: > The biggest thing I look for is who has my back when there is an > outage. > > (Unfortunately at this point I have zero experience with Trango > licensed > equipment so I can't comment there.) > > I have dealt with Ceragon, Harris/Stratex, Dragonwave and others. All > make good product. While pricing may make a decision in most peoples > minds it doesn't in mine. When running high priority links I look > for a > manufacturer with a track record for support, not sales or price. I > have > consistently seen miracles performed by Dragonwave when we have had > the > occasional bad radio. I had a service issue at 6:30 PM eastern time > here one night and I had an advanced replacement radio in my hands > before 9am the following morning. And they're in freakin' CANADA! I > don't know how but it happened, Customs and all. > > Considering 90% of my business is installation and service, I need a > provider that supports me. > > I also agree on the need for a 24 Ghz. unit. I would love to have a > 100 > Mb FDX system that only did a mile or so. Sub $10K. All integrated. > > -B- > > > > > Charles Wu wrote: >> My personal opinion regarding point-to-point links is that it boils >> down solely to price & technical specifications >> >> When talking about Point-to-Point links (as opposed to a Point-to- >> Multipoint system) -- company sustainability / support (be it >> Dragonwave vs. Trango) isn't really that crucial, given that (1) >> most WISPs should know how to setup and configure their own radios >> and (2) most point-to-point links sit as a "self-contained" system >> >> To illustrate >> >> 1. How much support is really "needed" on a point-to-point link -- >> if by now, you can't figure out how to install one of these links >> with at the most some basic phone support, then you may need to >> rethink whether or not you should be in the WISP business =) >> >> That said...after an initial learning curve, and assuming that >> radios are properly installed (e.g., grounded, etc) -- point-to- >> points are generally "forgotten about" in the network >> >> So, say you buy a point-to-point Trango or Dragonwave backhaul -- >> you install it...works fine -- 36 months later Trango or Dragonwave >> goes completely bankrupt >> >> Who cares? For your next link...go buy a Trango/Dragonwave/Ceragon/ >> Harris/Nera/whatever -- the installed link will continue to work -- >> and by then, you'll be looking to upgrade your backhauls anyways >> >> -Charles >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >> boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman >> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:38 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link >> >>> From what I gather in this post my synopsis is as follows. >> >> Both Dragonwave and Trango are fine ptp products with small >> differences. Both companies have problems either financially or >> historically. >> >> I think the geeks in us care about the products and the operation >> managers in us care about the business. As was said there is no >> wrong >> choice. >> >> Is this a correct statement or am I wrong and where? >> >> On 2/12/09, Charles Wu <c...@cticonnect.com> wrote: >> >>>>> Dragonwave did not ship $50mil last year, it >>>>> was closer to $40Mil - and by the way they are losing tons of >>>>> money >>>>> quarter-after-quarter. Trango is, and has always been profitable. >>>>> >>>> Well you can read Dragonwave's latest financial statement here... >>>> http://www.dragonwaveinc.com/docs/corporate/DragonWave_Financial%20Statement >>>> s_Nov30%202008.pdf So it does say gross sales was at 30 million >>>> CDN for >>>> three quarters... Dragonwave operates on a weird year end. >>>> Anyways I used >>>> the 50 mil from what I was told off the cuff by a Dragonwave >>>> rep... anyways >>>> its probably fair to say it is somewhere between 40 and 50 mil... >>>> >>> Sales mean nothing -- the true test of a company's health and >>> viability is >>> profitability (net income) and cash flow >>> >>> The numbers you referenced show that Dragonwave loss $3.8 million >>> and burned >>> $8.7 million in cash in the last 9 months ended November 2008 >>> >>> It shows them having $10 million in cash, $10 million in AR and >>> $14 million >>> in short term investments >>> >>> Reading Dragonwave's financials, while it's not a disaster, paints >>> the >>> picture of a start-up company that's trying to "get over the hump" >>> >>> So...assuming a soft economy...where performance is similar to >>> where they >>> are now, and from a simplistic perspective, assuming they can >>> collect all >>> their AR & liquidate all their investments at market value, >>> Dragonwave has >>> ~3 years before they have to turn profitable, sell or raise more >>> money >>> >>> -Charles >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> This message is intended only for the use of the individual or >>> entity to >>> which it is addressed and may contain information that is >>> privileged, >>> confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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