Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

[Travis Johnson]

Another item that I would like to bring up... the US economy is in sad shape right now. So, if you are looking to buy a licensed radio set, are you better to send your money to Canada, or keep it here in the US? For all practical and "reasonable" items, DW and Trango both have a great ptp licensed radios. So, if everything is basically the same, why wouldn't you spend LESS money AND keep the money in the US? And, CTI has published their exact pricing for the Trango. Why is nobody else putting out the DW price? Travis Microserv 3-dB Networks wrote: Sure... at the end of the day I guess that is all I care about too. But if your ODU fails in two years... and the company you purchased it from no longer exists... your kinda screwed aren't you? Long term support should always be taken into consideration. For instance... look at Motorola/Orthogon. They end of lifed the PtP 400... but are going to support it with firmware releases, etc. for another five years. I don't think anyone doubts that it is going to happen either. I'm not saying Trango is about to go under... ultimately there is no way to really know since they are a private company. I personally have concerns about the company though... and it is something you should consider before you buy the gear. Obviously though... not everyone shares this view. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link >From what I gather in this post my synopsis is as follows. Both Dragonwave and Trango are fine ptp products with small differences. Both companies have problems either financially or historically. I think the geeks in us care about the products and the operation managers in us care about the business. As was said there is no wrong choice. Is this a correct statement or am I wrong and where? On 2/12/09, Charles Wu <c...@cticonnect.com> wrote: Dragonwave did not ship $50mil last year, it was closer to $40Mil - and by the way they are losing tons of money quarter-after-quarter. Trango is, and has always been profitable. Well you can read Dragonwave's latest financial statement here... http://www.dragonwaveinc.com/docs/corporate/DragonWave_Financial%20Sta tement s_Nov30%202008.pdf So it does say gross sales was at 30 million CDN for three quarters... Dragonwave operates on a weird year end. Anyways I used the 50 mil from what I was told off the cuff by a Dragonwave rep... anyways its probably fair to say it is somewhere between 40 and 50 mil... Sales mean nothing -- the true test of a company's health and viability is profitability (net income) and cash flow The numbers you referenced show that Dragonwave loss $3.8 million and burned $8.7 million in cash in the last 9 months ended November 2008 It shows them having $10 million in cash, $10 million in AR and $14 million in short term investments Reading Dragonwave's financials, while it's not a disaster, paints the picture of a start-up company that's trying to "get over the hump" So...assuming a soft economy...where performance is similar to where they are now, and from a simplistic perspective, assuming they can collect all their AR & liquidate all their investments at market value, Dragonwave has ~3 years before they have to turn profitable, sell or raise more money -Charles This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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