No, they shouldn't.  Supply and demand.  When you have something relatively 
few want it, you have to pay the carriers for access.  When everyone wants 
it, either no money is exchanged or they pay you.  That's sort of what Net 
Neutrality is about.

Actually, if it were like the phone network, we'd be paying NetFlix because 
our customers are the ones making the cars.  Customer pays you, you pay x 
carrier, x carrier pays y carrier, y carrier would pay NetFlix.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



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From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 1:25 PM
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing

> In the past, l worked for two electric companies. Their business models 
> were
> dependant on meters. As far as internet access, Compuserve and AOL had the
> right idea from the start. Instead entrepanuers took advantage of their
> weakness at the time. What we are now seeing is the downside of the
> $50/month "all you can eat" business model. When usage was low due to less
> apps, it worked fine but were now seeing exponential growth of usage.
> Besides that, one thing we (ISP's) are really missing, are agreements
> between each other for payment of access to our networks. For instance, 
> the
> phone companies pay each other for access to each others networks. I 
> realize
> this is very complex but shouldnt Netflix (or their provider) pay us for
> utilziation of our networks?
> -RickG
>
> On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Eric Rogers 
> <ecrog...@precisionds.com>wrote:
>
>> I do agree with you and that works if there are other options.  One
>> customer who was downloading 160G, came from DSL and moved into this
>> neighborhood and now wants high speed where we are the only option.  It
>> is only a matter of time before others are using Netflix and others.
>> They come in all gaming consoles now.  Why not have the customers pay
>> for upgrades?  If there is a high demand for services, the demand drives
>> growth; or fees stifle demand.
>>
>> Maybe my logic is flawed, but if 5% of the customer base is straining
>> the network, shouldn't they pay more?
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:22 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing
>>
>> 10% of your customers will use 90% of your resources. Direct that 10%
>> customer base to cable or DSL and stop worrying about adding complexity
>> to your network.
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Chuck Profito wrote:
>> > Marlon does this and smiles every time he signs a Bandwidth Hog!
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> On
>> > Behalf Of Eric Rogers
>> > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:56 AM
>> > To: WISPA General List
>> > Subject: [WISPA] Metered Billing
>> >
>> > We are on the verge of changing to a metered or tiered billing
>> structure
>> > with Caps that once they exceed the cap; it doesn't shut off, but they
>> > get charged the overage.  Netflix is getting out of control and I
>> don't
>> > want to punish the customers that only use it occasionally.  I think
>> > they are very innovative solutions and don't want to hinder new
>> > applications.  I just want people that download 160 GB in a month,
>> when
>> > the average is nearly 10 GB a month, to pay their share for expanding
>> > the network.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Who has dabbled in the metered/tiered services and what were your
>> > customers responses?
>> >
>> > What are your tiers?
>> >
>> > Have attitudes changed toward your company as being greedy?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > We already have everything in place to do it, just need to send out
>> the
>> > letter saying we are doing it and why.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Eric Rogers
>> >
>> > Precision Data Solutions, LLC
>> >
>> > (317) 831-3000 x200
>> >
>> >
>> >
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