I would have to agree. Have had routers doing lot of work that had uptime over a year (one that almost hit 500 days but lightning got the better of one ethernet port). The ones I seen problems it tend to be bad PC hardware or lack of memory. One router I saw would experience issues where vlans would die and ip's assigned to the vlan interfaces would go invalid. Turned out the unit had to little ram for what was going on on it (vlans, dns proxy, queues, lot of firewall rules, layer 7 firewall rules, dhcp servers and vpn server) installed more ram and unit ran flawless since (had 256MB to start with, 512MB improved but would occasionally still have issues and need reboot, 1GB and no issues after running for months).
/Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 00:12:38 To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? Hi, I would like to be the first to say that the article about Skybeam seems a little over dramatic. The quote that their Mikrotik routers had to be rebooted every few days would indicate to me that they had hardware problems, not software (Mikrotik) problems. I have Mikrotik routers on my network that have been up over a full year without a single reboot or issue. The only reason it's only a year is due to software upgrades. With over 200 Mikrotik routers on my network (several moving over 100Mbps of traffic and 10,000pps daily and one moving over 400Mbps and 100,000pps), I can tell you Mikrotik is one of the most solid, reliable packages available. Yes, you are locked into their interface and CLI. Yes, it does have some bugs and issues at times, but overall the best routing package I have seen. Travis Microserv Glenn Kelley wrote: > Josh > > Largest difference I have seen is in regards to load (and cost) > Freeware community editions ... well cost is pretty low - especially > if you have vmware already running, xen running - or a good pc or > server around. > that being said > > Mikrotik from experience can choke on DDOS attacks above 100K pps on a > dual xeon - with vYatta you don't see much of a load. > > A good study on this is with SkyBeam: > http://www.vyatta.com/downloads/casestudies/Vyatta_Skybeamcase.pdf > > might be worth asking them directly > > > I'm not far from you if you want an in person overview :-) - thinking > of hamfest > > I'm out in Court House - about an hour and 1/2 > > > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2010, at 1:10 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > >> So who has used Vyatta and Mikrotik? Differences? >> >> On 4/3/10, Glenn Kelley <gl...@hostmedic.com> wrote: >> >>> vyatta overview: http://www.vyatta.com/products/index.php >>> >>> PFSense overview: http://www.pfsense.org >>> >>> >>> On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:52 AM, Glenn Kelley wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I love Vyatta. I love PFSense... I love a bunch of other >>>> applications that can do this as well... BUT it might be worth >>>> asking >>>> what the job that you want the router to perform. >>>> >>>> While some may bash vYatta - >>>> >>>> Keep in mind - when the reload happened - they specifically did that >>>> for their own Support Contracts ... folks that paid them - but yes >>>> - a >>>> major release required a reload. >>>> I can tell horror stories about having to do this w/ Cisco Vax >>>> 7200's 2650's and such as well. IOS updates do not always go as >>>> well as they advertise... >>>> >>>> Why I do like vYatta is the simple fact they provide both the CLI >>>> and >>>> GUI - (command line interface and graphical user interface)... >>>> >>>> Here are a few reasons why folks in this board should consider >>>> vYatta >>>> community edition: (free) >>>> >>>> 1. Load Balancing >>>> 2. BGP (Full ) >>>> 3. vLAN - do vlans out to the radios >>>> 4. PPPOE - if you wanted to use it >>>> 5. Parental Controls >>>> 6. Speed Control / Traffic Shaping - You can do this right on >>>> your >>>> router. >>>> 7. SQUID - cache things vs hitting the web all the time for the >>>> same >>>> content (like windows updates, youtubes, etc ) >>>> >>>> >>>> I resell vYatta paid version for those interested - but for most the >>>> community center is just fine. The paid edition will give you all >>>> of >>>> the aforementioned with the ability to obtain paid support - and >>>> this >>>> is based upon the following: >>>> >>>> 1. what type of contract you have purchased >>>> 2. severity of the request - (ie everything down vs just a feature >>>> request) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> that being said - WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO ? >>>> >>>> If you have a simple setup - and just need full BGP - you might also >>>> want to check out another Open Source Project called PFSense. >>>> >>>> PFSense is full FreeBSD - runs on most any x86 hardware. >>>> I can help any of you with this as well. The PFSense book is a >>>> great >>>> place to start - and is written for someone who has never done >>>> routing... >>>> >>>> one last thing about pfsense... Its a full bsd license - you can >>>> even >>>> rebrand it. >>>> >>>> I have a bunch of PF systems out in the field as CPE for firewalling >>>> and such - all running under our logo and skin when a client logs >>>> in. >>>> a simple 1U rack mount makes that an awesome option - so does a >>>> simple flash drive on a card in a box ... >>>> >>>> Ask questions if I can help either on or off list >>>> >>>> :-) >>>> >>>> Glenn >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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