I also haven't been in my core router in ages, my template IS by Butch
as I stated before, I HAVE had Dennis look at the outages, everyone is
stumped, if I can't depend on it I don't want it. THEN I'll have time
to route the network. I've used Mikrotik for years and until the load
got to high things ran fine, I wish I could make it work but its down
just too much.
On 10/14/2010 4:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I agree with Travis.
Also the thread is about a bandwidth manager, which just like Travis,
you would do at the edge between you and your upstream. Your APs,
backhauls and other radios can be Ubnt/Canopy/Linksys/etc
I would suggest spending the minimal amount of money for the MT
router, Butch's template and forget about it. If you do have an issue
(IMO it will be something a person did to the network if no one logs
into it making changes all the time) you have Butch, Dennis, the list,
etc.
I can't remember the last time I logged into the core router. When I
did, it was to copy some rules to share on a list or ##mikrotik.
Josh Luthman
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On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net
<mailto:t...@ida.net>> wrote:
Hi,
You need to fix your network, not the hardware/software you are
running. I have over 60 Mikrotik backhaul links, with over 1,000
Mikrotik customer radios (plus thousands more Trango and Canopy)
and have NONE of the issues you describe.
Our main edge router is a Mikrotik box (x86 with Quad core) and it
has thousands of rules and NAT translations, moving 450Mbps x
150Mbps on a daily basis, and has been up for over 6 months right
now (due only to firmware upgrades).
Having your network bridged is the problem. Take time out and fix
that, or you will continue to have more and more problems...
Travis
Microserv
On 10/14/2010 4:45 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote:
Really Josh, you want me to rehash this? To be simple I'm not a
true geek, I barely speak linux and Router OS not at all. Our
network of 700 over 12 towers is bridged, a big no-no but I can't
keep radios up long enough to make us routed along with the
growth sprut we've had this year (we 're averaging 3 installs a
day with one installer/field tech). We've found that if you get
over 50 on Mikrotik you start getting latency issues, four of our
towers have over that. When I was all Mikrotik (well 90% that
10% Moto) it worked great for about a year and a half, then the
packet storms started, then radios started doing weird
intermittent things like turning off. Sure we did the obvious,
change passwords, isolate the radios from the rest of the network
but it just started to get worse, probably traffic driven from
our ongoing growth that the greater demand for more bandwidth (we
are 90% residential so Netflix type stuff).
To solve this we started replacing backhauls with Ubiquiti
radios. Ubiquiti allows more traffic so the added pressure
really started to take down the Mikrotik AP's, ports and bridges
now drop with undiagnoisable (new word) regularity. Then the
bandwidth manager failed, Butch rebuilt it but for some reason
the upgrade to 4.11 made failures happen more often that were
like the AP's, dropped ports and bridges. We compensated by
making a path on the Ethernet side and in-network side so we
could maybe ... (fix the disabled port/bridge) from either end.
We are spending all of our time building redundant this and
redundant that until we realized one thing, on every outage
Mikrotik's had cascading failures shutting down ports or turning
off radios (disabling) meanwhile Ubiquiti never went down,
ever. So we started pulling all Mikrotik backhauls, now we only
lose AP's and the bandwidth manager. Since the bandwidth manager
takes the entire network down we want replace it. Now you're up
to speed on where we are, I call Mikrotik my 'backwards momentum'
mover, we have to stop our forward motion on building and
installing so we can restore service, it takes the fun out of
this business thats for sure.
Forbes
On 10/14/2010 3:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Hrm why doesn't Mikrotik work?
On Oct 14, 2010 6:15 PM, "Forbes Mercy"
<forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
<mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com>> wrote:
> In my mission to rid our network of Mikrotik I need to shop
for a new
> bandwidth manager since mine likes to randomly drop one of the
ports or
> bridge, and reset the route gateway (twice already this week).
I'm
> looking for a more friendly windows type based unit, any
suggestions.
>
> Thanks,
> Forbes
>
>
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