Again not a true statement, $3000 for a visit by a network administrator to route us (already got the quote), $600 for a packeteer on eBay. Then we can route it ourselves because the network won't drop every day when a piece of crap router drops the ethernet port every time it sees traffic it doesn't like, who designs something like that anyway!? ZERO drops from UBNT gear and it's handling the exact same gear as the Mikrotik did, EXACT same packets. OK ok sorry I'm getting pissed now, going to walk away for the night... I just asked for alternatives, that's all. Didn't mean to walk into the MAC users group and say Windows was better.
On 10/14/2010 5:01 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: > Sounds like you need to have someone come visit the network in person. > There has to be a reasonable explination for what is going on your > network, and i posit that no device you find is going to work right > till that root cause is found. > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Forbes Mercy > <forbes.me...@wabroadband.com> wrote: >> I also haven't been in my core router in ages, my template IS by Butch as I >> stated before, I HAVE had Dennis look at the outages, everyone is stumped, >> if I can't depend on it I don't want it. THEN I'll have time to route the >> network. I've used Mikrotik for years and until the load got to high things >> ran fine, I wish I could make it work but its down just too much. >> >> On 10/14/2010 4:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> >> I agree with Travis. >> >> Also the thread is about a bandwidth manager, which just like Travis, you >> would do at the edge between you and your upstream. Your APs, backhauls and >> other radios can be Ubnt/Canopy/Linksys/etc >> >> I would suggest spending the minimal amount of money for the MT router, >> Butch's template and forget about it. If you do have an issue (IMO it will >> be something a person did to the network if no one logs into it making >> changes all the time) you have Butch, Dennis, the list, etc. >> >> I can't remember the last time I logged into the core router. When I did, >> it was to copy some rules to share on a list or ##mikrotik. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Travis Johnson<t...@ida.net> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> You need to fix your network, not the hardware/software you are running. I >>> have over 60 Mikrotik backhaul links, with over 1,000 Mikrotik customer >>> radios (plus thousands more Trango and Canopy) and have NONE of the issues >>> you describe. >>> >>> Our main edge router is a Mikrotik box (x86 with Quad core) and it has >>> thousands of rules and NAT translations, moving 450Mbps x 150Mbps on a daily >>> basis, and has been up for over 6 months right now (due only to firmware >>> upgrades). >>> >>> Having your network bridged is the problem. Take time out and fix that, or >>> you will continue to have more and more problems... >>> >>> Travis >>> Microserv >>> >>> >>> On 10/14/2010 4:45 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: >>> >>> Really Josh, you want me to rehash this? To be simple I'm not a true >>> geek, I barely speak linux and Router OS not at all. Our network of 700 >>> over 12 towers is bridged, a big no-no but I can't keep radios up long >>> enough to make us routed along with the growth sprut we've had this year (we >>> 're averaging 3 installs a day with one installer/field tech). We've found >>> that if you get over 50 on Mikrotik you start getting latency issues, four >>> of our towers have over that. When I was all Mikrotik (well 90% that 10% >>> Moto) it worked great for about a year and a half, then the packet storms >>> started, then radios started doing weird intermittent things like turning >>> off. Sure we did the obvious, change passwords, isolate the radios from the >>> rest of the network but it just started to get worse, probably traffic >>> driven from our ongoing growth that the greater demand for more bandwidth >>> (we are 90% residential so Netflix type stuff). >>> >>> To solve this we started replacing backhauls with Ubiquiti radios. >>> Ubiquiti allows more traffic so the added pressure really started to take >>> down the Mikrotik AP's, ports and bridges now drop with undiagnoisable (new >>> word) regularity. Then the bandwidth manager failed, Butch rebuilt it but >>> for some reason the upgrade to 4.11 made failures happen more often that >>> were like the AP's, dropped ports and bridges. We compensated by making a >>> path on the Ethernet side and in-network side so we could maybe ... (fix the >>> disabled port/bridge) from either end. We are spending all of our time >>> building redundant this and redundant that until we realized one thing, on >>> every outage Mikrotik's had cascading failures shutting down ports or >>> turning off radios (disabling) meanwhile Ubiquiti never went down, ever. >>> So we started pulling all Mikrotik backhauls, now we only lose AP's and the >>> bandwidth manager. Since the bandwidth manager takes the entire network >>> down we want replace it. Now you're up to speed on where we are, I call >>> Mikrotik my 'backwards momentum' mover, we have to stop our forward motion >>> on building and installing so we can restore service, it takes the fun out >>> of this business thats for sure. >>> >>> Forbes >>> >>> On 10/14/2010 3:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> >>> Hrm why doesn't Mikrotik work? >>> >>> On Oct 14, 2010 6:15 PM, "Forbes Mercy"<forbes.me...@wabroadband.com> >>> wrote: >>>> In my mission to rid our network of Mikrotik I need to shop for a new >>>> bandwidth manager since mine likes to randomly drop one of the ports or >>>> bridge, and reset the route gateway (twice already this week). I'm >>>> looking for a more friendly windows type based unit, any suggestions. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Forbes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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