yes I agree. Graphic design and Web (Graphic) design are different, similar concepts but different. what works on print does not always work on web
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/07/2007 2:48:57 pm >>> Yes, but that's still graphic design of the appearance of Websites, NOT Website Design. It's not designing the dynamic structure, usability and accessibility (using Web standards) essential for good Website design which will hold across different platforms/browsers in which the user has control (not the graphic designer). And no, the visual design should not be the first thing to consider in meeting a client's requirements. Too many bad Websites have been produced in which graphic designers who have pretended to be Website designers and placed the visual design first and insist that this is paramount. On Thu, July 12, 2007 12:48 am, Breton Slivka wrote: > > > Argghh no! the ignorance! Just stop going about thinking you know what > you're talking about when it comes to Graphic Design! Graphic Design isn't > "Make it Purdy", Graphic design isn't "Learn how to use photoshop". It's > exactly that perception that leads to awful website after awful website. > Certainly, aesthetic beauty is a *side effect* of the design process, but > *do not* make the mistake of thinking that's what graphic design is. > > Graphic design for print design has four aspects: > > Client Needs > > Audience Expectations > > Process (Identifying the problem space, going through many iterations, > selecting the best solutions, and iterative refinement. This involves a A > knowledge of the principles of good typography, and the principles of good > visual design of course, but it is not pure visual design) > > Craftsmanship > > The graphic design process on the web is no different. > > A Good graphic designer (one who is familiar with what graphic design > actually is, rather than the ignorant stereotype you just displayed) > Should > be involved in the process as EARLY and as OFTEN as possible. Not in the > last step as you suggest. *Most* of this Graphic Designer's time should be > spent with pencils and paper, and not in Photoshop or Illustrator. A great > deal of time evaluating the problem at hand, and iteratively simplifying > the > solution. This is graphic design. If this is not what you've found in > graphic designers in the past, then you have accidentally hired a Stylist, > or possibly an Illustrator, not a graphic designer. > > Please do not slander my profession in the future. > > And P.S. this is a little tongue in cheek, so don't take too much offense. > But seriously, you are wrong about graphic design. > > > ******************************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ******************************************************************* ****************************************************************************************************** The above message has been scanned and meets the Insurance Commission of Western Australia's Email security requirements for inbound transmission. ****************************************************************************************************** ******************************************************************************************************************************** The above message has been scanned and meets the Insurance Commission of Western Australia's Email security policy requirements for outbound transmission. This email (facsimile) and any attachments may be confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (facsimile) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email (facsimile) in error please contact the Insurance Commission. Web: www.icwa.wa.gov.au Phone: +61 08 9264 3333 ********************************************************************************************************************************* ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************
