ARGGHH ...
I've been following this discussion as a lurker generally agreeing that
adding colors to the graph would be effective, then saw this.
Really? Do you want to confuse more people by removing the input slider?
I had a discussion on the Yahoo JT65-HF list serv with a ham using
JT65-HF (the original) because he says that WSJT-X was 'too confusing'
to use and JT65-HF was very intuitive, and didn't have "pages of user
guide" to have to use. I believe some of that was hyperbole, but still.
So what that the slider only affects the wide graph, I have always been
told that the waterfall has less to do with finding signals (or signal
strength), and more to do with finding an open location to call CQ from.
Please, leave the slider alone. It allows for quick tweaks when one
changes bands and the noise level changes.
My 2 cents ...
Neil Z
KN3ILZ
On 3/7/2017 12:53 AM, Tony VK2AJF wrote:
Hi All,
The slider next to the level meter only seems to affects the wide
graph's waterfall when "flatten" is off. To avoid others this
confusion would it be better to scrap that slider and just use the
sliders on the wide graph?
Regards ... Tony VK2AJF
On 7 March 2017 at 11:21, Black Michael <mdblac...@yahoo.com
<mailto:mdblac...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
The slider adjusts the waterfalls now like it always did. The
effect on the meter was confusing too many people when setting
audio so that was disconnected.
On the fast graph the slider controls both the spectrum and
waterfall...and just the waterfall on the wide graph.
de Mike W9MDB
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*From:* Edson W. R. Pereira <ewpere...@gmail.com
<mailto:ewpere...@gmail.com>>
*To:* WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
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*Sent:* Monday, March 6, 2017 6:14 PM
*Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] Cumulative patch
Hi Joe,
It looks very good here. But this is only a subjective opinion
from someone with ageing eyes. Suggestions from other developers
should also be considered.
I like the way the level meter behaves now. Disconnecting my
antenna, the level drops down to about 7-8 dB. With the antenna
connected, it raises to about 20 dB when only weak signals are
present. In general, the level stays around 30 dB. I have no audio
level adjustment in the RX chain.
Is the input level slider still needed?
73, Edson PY2SDR
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Joe Taylor <j...@princeton.edu
<mailto:j...@princeton.edu>> wrote:
Hi Edson,
Revision 7599 uses QColor(85,170,85) for "normal" and
QColor(232,81,0)
(a dark orange) aof "too low".
I think the dark orange is an improvement. Not so sure about the
gray-green, but perhaps others will like it ??
-- Joe
On 3/6/2017 4:06 PM, Edson W. R. Pereira wrote:
> Hi Joe,
>
> I've compiled the SVN head and am using it. The level meter
color looks
> good, but it may be a little better if the green could be a
little
> darker to have better contrast with the widget grey
background. Can you
> try a QColor(85,170,85) and see if it looks ok for you?
>
> I agree with Keith's comment. Yellow on a light grey
background is quite
> difficult to see. For levels below the threshold, red or
perhaps orange
> could be used.
>
> Mike's suggestion is quite interesting. It could be
informative to show
> the noise level. This could be a horizontal grey line over
the signal bar.
>
> 73, Edson PY2SDR
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Keith Laaks
<wkla...@gmail.com <mailto:wkla...@gmail.com>
> <mailto:wkla...@gmail.com <mailto:wkla...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> HI Joe,
>
> On my MacBook with direct USB interface to an FT-991, by
adjusting
> Menu 73 ‘DATA OUT LEVEL’ right down to 0, I can get the
bar to show
> the yellow with the meter at around 5dB level. Against
the grey
> background the yellow does somewhat appear white and I
suspect some
> users may miss the fact that the color is trying to draw
their
> attention to the too-low audio level. Maybe should be
red also?
>
> (By the way, at the zero setting I also get solid
‘birdie' spectrum
> lines at 1K, 2K, 3K and 4K on the graph, with traces of
some louder
> stations just showing between these).
>
> When I adjust the Menu 73 up to 1, the audio jumps to
around 20db
> and he bar color to normal green (birdies disappear).
>
> Radio Data Out Level -> Meter Audio
> 25. -> 45db
> 50 (default) -> 55dB
> 75 -> 60dB
> 100 -> 67db
>
> On my setup I am not able to ‘overdrive’ audio input.
>
> By the way, I am using Qt5.8 and I just noticed that the
band
> selection dropdown is now working 100% again.
> When I switched to 5.8 originally last month (to sort my
audio
> issue), I noticed the dropdown did not drop - but I
could still just
> enter the band manually.
>
> Lots of activity on 7.076 this evening….
>
>
> 73s.
>
> Keith
> Zs6tw.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------
> Please let us know what you think of the changes made in
r7597 to the
> audio level meter. In particular, to the color(s) used
for the
> thermometer bar.
>
> For a trial period, we now have red indicating A/D
saturation, green
> "normal" levels, and yellow noise levels so low that
quantization errors
> are significant. One should "almost never" see the
warning colors
> unless something is significantly wrong, so my feeling
is that the color
> changes should not be distracting in normal operation.
>
> Should we stay with the three-color arrangement? If yes,
could we
> choose a better set of three colors?
>
> -- Joe, K1JT
>
>
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