VC Just for you information, the YCL is not an NGO...
Aluta ________________________________ From: Andile Mafa <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, September 7, 2010 6:22:45 PM Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Article by David Masondo, YCL National Chairperson VC I am just sick of our organisations being used for what they dont stand for... I do stand for organisational discipline, but YCL is costing us the economic revolution we seek for... these black elite...must be treated as we treaed apartheid, VC... what UNITY and Cohension are they talking about... we as young please of SA are like a woman in an abusive marriage wanting to revolt against the abuse, but elders or tradition keep saying BEKEZALA MTANAMI, what Nonsense... David I commend you, we are mobilising civil society now cause our organisations are used for ... u fill in the misswing words... what kind of a future vanguard movement would let this behaviour go.... and not violently confront it. w...@h!.... kanti YINI i REVOLUTION On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Songezo Mleqwa <[email protected]> wrote: Dearest VC > >I have read both Masondo's article and the YCL statements. I think we should >understand the rationale behind the National Office statement. The basic point >here is that you do not go out and break organisational discipline and make >yourself a HERO, raising issues merely because they are right and use the name >and position accorded to you by the organisation. There is always a rider >called >"The writer is so and so but writes in his personal capacity..." when anyone >writes in the newspapers if those views are not the official position of the >organisation. > > >The Proffessor should have know this: no matter how intelligent or educated or >heroic or popular or bold you are or want to be, you can never be above the >organisation. This is like Holomisa who was bold enough to expose corruption >of >certain leaders of the ANC in the Ciskei, contradicting an organisational >decision and the organisation itself, confusing his personal popularity and so >called principled approach. It is not that the ANC was supportive of >corruption >and those who were corrupt, but it was important for the ANC to protect its >organisational discipline from such abuse. When we join organisations, we >submit >to its constitution and other cultures. Masondo has been around long enough, >and >has actyually presided over the expulsion of some comrades who have committed >such acts. I actually believe that the YCL statement was linient. > >I agree that the YCL should be vocal on all of these issues, but the YCL is >not >a picnin organisation where, without engament within the organisation, anyone >can make any statement on its behalf. This is not a free for all but an >organisation with rules and procedures. If all of these are less important >than >the views and emotions of individual leaders, then we may as well not have >this >YCL. Lets not be worshippers of men at the expense of organisational >procedures >and principles. I am sure the national office agrees with the views expressed >by >Prof Masondo, but does it mean, for expediency, they should just let go and >allow the rule of the jungle. > >Communist regards >Songezo Mleqwa > > > > ________________________________ From: Vusi Makamu <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] >Sent: Tue, September 7, 2010 9:13:24 AM > >Subject: RE: [YCLSA Discussion] Article by David Masondo, YCL National >Chairperson > > > >The article by cde David speaks directly of what we are against for as the >communist,there is nothing anti-communist about the article and the statement >by >the NEC OF YCL seek to decide us while the article of Masondo addresses our >concern .our struggle for economic empowerment was not to benefit the few who >are political connect but the benefit the most marginlised and the poor. >comrade David thanks for being bold and ur article proves as to why you have >been elected chairperson of ycl . > >>>> Petrus Mhlari <[email protected]> 2010/09/06 05:33 PM >>> > >Very Bold in did of cde Masondo,however the yCL thought it necessary to >distance >themselves to the statement which i think is unfourtunate,Views expressed by >cde >Masondo is a perception shared by many in the country most of whom are poor >Some of this narrow Bee is not impressive as it goes to the connected nothing >about the poor that we all wish to be representing one would have expected >the >Ycl to state their position in that regard/propose how they think. >From:[email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] >On Behalf Of Trevor Kekana >Sent: 06 September 2010 03:33 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [YCLSA Discussion] Article by David Masondo, YCL National >Chairperson > >Cde. VC > >Cde. David Masondo is a very bold leader who calls things by their correct >name. >He does not dilly-dally around a principle. This matter does not require >internal debates - but frank talk. > >I am shocked that some in the YCL are so terrified that they want to >single-out >the National Chairperson in this manner. How many times has either the >Secretary >or Chairperson written or spoken on issues that are in the public domain (and >of >public interest and concern) without such statements being issued? What is the >difference now? Why should the YCL pussyfoot around a clear matter case like >this? > >This deal would never have gone to this current batch had it not been for >their >ties with the president. Cde. Masondo must be engaged constructively by >comrades >without being fed to the pride in the den by his own comrades. These views >resonate with the masses of our people. > >Regards >Trevor Kekana > ________________________________ >From:[email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] >On Behalf Of Dominic Tweedie >Sent: 06 September 2010 03:03 PM >To: YCLSA EOM Forum >Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Article by David Masondo, YCL National Chairperson > > > > > >Statement by the YCL National Office Bearers, 5 September 2010 > > >Article by David Masondo, YCL National Chairperson > > >The YCLSA National Office Bearers wishes to distance themselves and the >organisation from the views expressed by the YCLSA National Chairperson, >Comrade >David Masondo, in yesterday’s edition of the City Press (title and page). > >This is an extra ordinary decision by the YCLSA to denounce the action of one >of >our leaders in public, but since this has been done in public, we had no >choice >but to take this action in the interest of organisational cohesion and unity. > >The YCLSA has in the recent past expressed our discomfort in the manner in >which >the Arcelor Mittal BEE deal has been structured, and our general principled >approach towards the role of politicians or their immediate families and >business interests, and our opposition towards corruption and narrow BEE. We >stand firmly on these views and will never retreat in consistently raising >them >in a manner that seeks to maintain the unity and cohesion of the alliance. > >However, we have emphasised the need to desist from public attacks on any >leader >of the Alliance in the manner in which Comrade Masondo has attacked the >President of the ANC and of the republic, and will further take this >engagement >internally. What is more discomforting is the fact that Comrade Masondo has >never canvassed these views internally within the YCLSA, but has now made them >public in his capacity as the YCLSA National Chairperson. Whatever our views, >whether wrong or right, there are set organisational processes to raise these >views. > >There are already strained relations within the Alliance partners, and as a >result, the YCLSA will play no further role in deepening these strained >relations, but will seek to constructively towards building unity and cohesion >of the Alliance. > >We call on all our members to exercise restraint and ensure that we use all >organisational platforms to raise whatever issues that we deem burning before >resorting to public pronouncements. > > >Issued by the YCLSA National Office Bearers on behalf of the YCLSA > >For more information, please contact Gugu Ndima > >Gugu Ndima > +27 76 783 1516 +27 76 783 1516 +27 76 783 1516 +27 76 783 1516 > > > >-- >You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this >message. >You can visit the group WEB SITE at >http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, >pages, files and membership. >To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . >You >don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put >anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this >address (repeat): [email protected] . > >http://www.old.investec.com/EmailDisclaimer/emaildisclaimer.htm > >The disclaimer also provides our corporate information and names of our >directors as required by law. > >The disclaimer is deemed to form part of this message in terms of Section 11 >of >the Electronic Communications and Transactions Act 25 of 2002. > >If you cannot access the disclaimer, please obtain a copy thereof from us by >sending an email to: [email protected] >-- >You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this >message. >You can visit the group WEB SITE at >http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, >pages, files and membership. >To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . >You >don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put >anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this >address (repeat): [email protected] . > >________________________________ Disclaimer: This message may contain confidential information and is intended only for person/s to whom it is addressed. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secured or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the content of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. The Johannesburg Roads Agency does not take responsibility for Johannesburg Roads Agency users' personal views. >-- >You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this >message. >You can visit the group WEB SITE at >http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, >pages, files and membership. >To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . >You >don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put >anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this >address (repeat): [email protected] . > >-- >You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this >message. >You can visit the group WEB SITE at >http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, >pages, files and membership. >To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . >You >don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put >anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this >address (repeat): [email protected] . > > >-- >You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this >message. >You can visit the group WEB SITE at >http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, >pages, files and membership. >To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . >You >don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put >anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this >address (repeat): [email protected] . > -- Andile N Wah! Mafa Phone No. Cell No. +2778-717-5591 Fax No. 086 212 4222 Alternative E-mail: [email protected] "Emmanuel University Eternal Network (EUEN) - The Architecture of and Engineering a Nation with Life, Governance, Insight,Ability and Connectivity for the God's purpose, plan and glory" -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [email protected] . -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [email protected] .
