Hi Barry,

Perceived 'intent' was based on William's presentation of the facts before I 
realized that he isn't a MSFT employee. But regardless, clearly the effect of 
MSFT's removal of various Entourage features that I cared about will result in 
my moving to Apple Mail. That the decision was made to spend their limited 
time/manpower/budget on making features less convenient could've been better 
spent on completing sync services across the board. And no; I won't buy into 
Outlook now in hope that my desired features will be added or restored later. 

Mark


On Oct 5, 2010, at 3:11 AM, Barry Wainwright <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think you are mistaking 'effect' for 'intent'.
> 
> They didn't deliberately make it more inconvenient, they simply moved it out 
> of the main body of the programme into the database utility (which is the app 
> that does the donkey work anyway). 
> 
> This will have the _effect_ of reducing the risk of introducing bugs (without 
> a user interface, the Database Utility app is much simpler), making it easier 
> to test and a little more difficult to find.
> 
> That last bit is the effect of the move - I'm sure it was not the intent of 
> the move
> 
> -- 
> From the iPad of Barry Wainwright
> 
> 
> On 5 Oct 2010, at 03:54, Mark Falchook <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I find it telling that Microsoft actually went to the trouble and expense to 
>> intentionally make ANY feature inconvenient to use. Gotta love that design 
>> philosophy. If it's Redmond's intention to alienate Mac users, they're doing 
>> a helluva job. 
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 4, 2010, at 10:17 PM, William Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 10/4/10 6:58 PM, "Dick Kriss" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Earlier you asked me if I was impressed with the new Move item on the
>>>> ribbon. When I was taking the test drive, I tried to save a message to
>>>> the desktop.  The File menu and Save As did not work so I then tried the
>>>> new Move options and could no figure out the nonstandard file system. I
>>>> expected it to open to a Finder interface and encounter a file system I
>>>> have never seen before that was not integrated with the OS X Finder. The
>>>> bottom line is I was not impressed with the new Move.
>>> 
>>> You¹ve misunderstood the intention of the Move feature. It¹s meant for
>>> moving messages between folders within Outlook. To file an open message
>>> you just click the Move menu button and select Choose FolderŠ In the next
>>> window you simply begin typing the name of the folder and all available
>>> matches are provided. Once you¹ve selected a folder then that folder is
>>> placed at the top of a recently used list for quicker access.
>>> 
>>>> I look forward to the new trial to find where they hid the Switch
>>>> Identity  
>>>> Hopefully it is not history.
>>> 
>>> Consider it history.
>>> 
>>> The original Switch Identity feature was envisioned by Microsoft as a
>>> solution to the problem of having just one Mac user account that must be
>>> shared by many users. This is from the classic Mac OS days. With the
>>> introduction of Mac OS X and its multiple user accounts, the need for this
>>> feature *as it was envisioned* in Entourage and Outlook is gone.
>>> 
>>> Folks have also used this feature as an archiving mechanism, which
>>> Microsoft wasn¹t expecting. Although Microsoft hasn¹t provided a very good
>>> archiving solution with either Entourage or Outlook, they certainly don¹t
>>> want to support using Switch Identity as a solution.
>>> 
>>> It¹s buried in Outlook to make it less convenient to use. We can probably
>>> expect it to be gone in the next major version. We¹ll need to spend the
>>> time between now and then to find a different solution for archiving.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> William Smith
>>> 
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