Ultimately, that's all that any of us can do - vote with our feet. If enough people take that option (although I am not advocating such a step) that would indicate they got their balance wrong and I would be surprise if they didn't move fast to correct the error.
I used apple mail for a good couple of years after a couple of bad experiences wi the entourage database. I switched back when the EWS version of 2008 came out because my main account at that time was an exchange account. I was glad to be back. Apple mail if very good as a domestic mail client. It just didn't cut the mustard for me as a heavy mail user. YMMV. In many ways ,this is what Diane is suggesting as the MS Route Plan: light domestic users don't need the full power of Entourage/Outlook. They will be OK with mail.app, and it's hard to compete with 'free'. Heavy or corporate users will pay for Outlook and that's where the money is. QED. -- From the iPad of Barry Wainwright On 5 Oct 2010, at 13:15, Mark Falchook <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Barry, > > Perceived 'intent' was based on William's presentation of the facts before I > realized that he isn't a MSFT employee. But regardless, clearly the effect of > MSFT's removal of various Entourage features that I cared about will result > in my moving to Apple Mail. That the decision was made to spend their limited > time/manpower/budget on making features less convenient could've been better > spent on completing sync services across the board. And no; I won't buy into > Outlook now in hope that my desired features will be added or restored later. > > Mark > > > On Oct 5, 2010, at 3:11 AM, Barry Wainwright <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think you are mistaking 'effect' for 'intent'. >> >> They didn't deliberately make it more inconvenient, they simply moved it out >> of the main body of the programme into the database utility (which is the >> app that does the donkey work anyway). >> >> This will have the _effect_ of reducing the risk of introducing bugs >> (without a user interface, the Database Utility app is much simpler), making >> it easier to test and a little more difficult to find. >> >> That last bit is the effect of the move - I'm sure it was not the intent of >> the move >> >> -- >> From the iPad of Barry Wainwright >> >> >> On 5 Oct 2010, at 03:54, Mark Falchook <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I find it telling that Microsoft actually went to the trouble and expense >>> to intentionally make ANY feature inconvenient to use. Gotta love that >>> design philosophy. If it's Redmond's intention to alienate Mac users, >>> they're doing a helluva job. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 4, 2010, at 10:17 PM, William Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On 10/4/10 6:58 PM, "Dick Kriss" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Earlier you asked me if I was impressed with the new Move item on the >>>>> ribbon. When I was taking the test drive, I tried to save a message to >>>>> the desktop. The File menu and Save As did not work so I then tried the >>>>> new Move options and could no figure out the nonstandard file system. I >>>>> expected it to open to a Finder interface and encounter a file system I >>>>> have never seen before that was not integrated with the OS X Finder. The >>>>> bottom line is I was not impressed with the new Move. >>>> >>>> You¹ve misunderstood the intention of the Move feature. It¹s meant for >>>> moving messages between folders within Outlook. To file an open message >>>> you just click the Move menu button and select Choose FolderŠ In the next >>>> window you simply begin typing the name of the folder and all available >>>> matches are provided. Once you¹ve selected a folder then that folder is >>>> placed at the top of a recently used list for quicker access. >>>> >>>>> I look forward to the new trial to find where they hid the Switch >>>>> Identity >>>>> Hopefully it is not history. >>>> >>>> Consider it history. >>>> >>>> The original Switch Identity feature was envisioned by Microsoft as a >>>> solution to the problem of having just one Mac user account that must be >>>> shared by many users. This is from the classic Mac OS days. With the >>>> introduction of Mac OS X and its multiple user accounts, the need for this >>>> feature *as it was envisioned* in Entourage and Outlook is gone. >>>> >>>> Folks have also used this feature as an archiving mechanism, which >>>> Microsoft wasn¹t expecting. Although Microsoft hasn¹t provided a very good >>>> archiving solution with either Entourage or Outlook, they certainly don¹t >>>> want to support using Switch Identity as a solution. >>>> >>>> It¹s buried in Outlook to make it less convenient to use. We can probably >>>> expect it to be gone in the next major version. We¹ll need to spend the >>>> time between now and then to find a different solution for archiving. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> William Smith >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> YouTalk mailing list >>>> List information: http://www.entourage.mvps.org/support_options/list.html >>>> List moderator: [email protected], [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe: >>>> mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe >>> -- >>> YouTalk mailing list >>> List information: http://www.entourage.mvps.org/support_options/list.html >>> List moderator: [email protected], [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe: >>> mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe >> >> >> -- >> YouTalk mailing list >> List information: http://www.entourage.mvps.org/support_options/list.html >> List moderator: [email protected], [email protected] >> To unsubscribe: mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe > -- > YouTalk mailing list > List information: http://www.entourage.mvps.org/support_options/list.html > List moderator: [email protected], [email protected] > To unsubscribe: mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe -- YouTalk mailing list List information: http://www.entourage.mvps.org/support_options/list.html List moderator: [email protected], [email protected] To unsubscribe: mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe
