Ultimately, that's all that any of us can do - vote with our feet.

If enough people take that option (although I am not advocating such a step) 
that would indicate they got their balance wrong and I would be surprise if 
they didn't move fast to correct the error.

I used apple mail for a good couple of years after a couple of bad experiences 
wi the entourage database. I switched back when the EWS version of 2008 came 
out because my main account at that time was an exchange account. I was glad to 
be back.

Apple mail if very good as a domestic mail client. It just didn't cut the 
mustard for me as a heavy mail user. YMMV.

In many ways ,this is what Diane is suggesting as the MS Route Plan: light 
domestic users don't need the full power of Entourage/Outlook. They will be OK 
with mail.app, and it's hard to compete with 'free'. Heavy or corporate users 
will pay for Outlook and that's where the money is. QED.

 

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On 5 Oct 2010, at 13:15, Mark Falchook <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Barry,
> 
> Perceived 'intent' was based on William's presentation of the facts before I 
> realized that he isn't a MSFT employee. But regardless, clearly the effect of 
> MSFT's removal of various Entourage features that I cared about will result 
> in my moving to Apple Mail. That the decision was made to spend their limited 
> time/manpower/budget on making features less convenient could've been better 
> spent on completing sync services across the board. And no; I won't buy into 
> Outlook now in hope that my desired features will be added or restored later. 
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> On Oct 5, 2010, at 3:11 AM, Barry Wainwright <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I think you are mistaking 'effect' for 'intent'.
>> 
>> They didn't deliberately make it more inconvenient, they simply moved it out 
>> of the main body of the programme into the database utility (which is the 
>> app that does the donkey work anyway). 
>> 
>> This will have the _effect_ of reducing the risk of introducing bugs 
>> (without a user interface, the Database Utility app is much simpler), making 
>> it easier to test and a little more difficult to find.
>> 
>> That last bit is the effect of the move - I'm sure it was not the intent of 
>> the move
>> 
>> -- 
>> From the iPad of Barry Wainwright
>> 
>> 
>> On 5 Oct 2010, at 03:54, Mark Falchook <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I find it telling that Microsoft actually went to the trouble and expense 
>>> to intentionally make ANY feature inconvenient to use. Gotta love that 
>>> design philosophy. If it's Redmond's intention to alienate Mac users, 
>>> they're doing a helluva job. 
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 4, 2010, at 10:17 PM, William Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 10/4/10 6:58 PM, "Dick Kriss" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Earlier you asked me if I was impressed with the new Move item on the
>>>>> ribbon. When I was taking the test drive, I tried to save a message to
>>>>> the desktop.  The File menu and Save As did not work so I then tried the
>>>>> new Move options and could no figure out the nonstandard file system. I
>>>>> expected it to open to a Finder interface and encounter a file system I
>>>>> have never seen before that was not integrated with the OS X Finder. The
>>>>> bottom line is I was not impressed with the new Move.
>>>> 
>>>> You¹ve misunderstood the intention of the Move feature. It¹s meant for
>>>> moving messages between folders within Outlook. To file an open message
>>>> you just click the Move menu button and select Choose FolderŠ In the next
>>>> window you simply begin typing the name of the folder and all available
>>>> matches are provided. Once you¹ve selected a folder then that folder is
>>>> placed at the top of a recently used list for quicker access.
>>>> 
>>>>> I look forward to the new trial to find where they hid the Switch
>>>>> Identity  
>>>>> Hopefully it is not history.
>>>> 
>>>> Consider it history.
>>>> 
>>>> The original Switch Identity feature was envisioned by Microsoft as a
>>>> solution to the problem of having just one Mac user account that must be
>>>> shared by many users. This is from the classic Mac OS days. With the
>>>> introduction of Mac OS X and its multiple user accounts, the need for this
>>>> feature *as it was envisioned* in Entourage and Outlook is gone.
>>>> 
>>>> Folks have also used this feature as an archiving mechanism, which
>>>> Microsoft wasn¹t expecting. Although Microsoft hasn¹t provided a very good
>>>> archiving solution with either Entourage or Outlook, they certainly don¹t
>>>> want to support using Switch Identity as a solution.
>>>> 
>>>> It¹s buried in Outlook to make it less convenient to use. We can probably
>>>> expect it to be gone in the next major version. We¹ll need to spend the
>>>> time between now and then to find a different solution for archiving.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
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>>>> William Smith
>>>> 
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