--- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@...> wrote:
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> The construct are the ideas of Nirvana and samsara but Nirvana and samsara
> are real once the idea has been throw away....For as long as we are in an
> organic form that is the way it is. Well, at least for me based experience
> so far.Â
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> What you are given description below are different mental states. And we
> are going far away from the initial subject of self and selfless.Â
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> And here it goes again the question how Selfless is applied in a hell
> enviroment without getting swallow by it?.
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> Mayka
> Hi Mayka. I hope you don't think it rude of me to talk to you about
this, since your question is to Mike. And I don't know if Mike would agree with
me on this one. I happen to endorse an understanding from
the Korean version of Zen(Son) called Sudden Enlightenment And Gradual
Cultivation. I do not believe that applied practices lead
to Awakening, but I believe that Awakening leads to applied practices.
I believe that our negative habits of thought, word and deed do not
automatically vanish when we awaken to our Buddha Nature. But I do
think that awakening to our Buddha Nature leads us to undertake
cultivation of practice. For example, I happen to be what Buddhists
call a Hate-Type in terms of habitual reaction to people, places and things.
Because I have awakened to this realization, I undertake the
cultivation of the Paramita of Patience. In practical terms, when
Aversion/Hate arises, I am aware of it and before it can take hold,
I focus on the Name of the Buddha. If I manage to do this early
enough, then the Aversion vashana is deprived of the motive energy
needed to reinforce itself. But practicing the Paramita of Patience
does not lead to awakening. Rather, awakening leads to practicing
the Paramita of Patience. Sometimes I am successful in this, and
sometimes not. But either way, "I" am not doing it. In my opinion.
Steve
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