Hi Mike,
According to your witness, is there a practice/way/how to "realize"?
Thanks,
JM
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On 3/1/2011 2:16 AM, mike brown wrote:
ED,
Maybe, maybe not. It still stands tho that meditation is not essential
for enlightenment as it leads us away from Realisation. Therein lies
the paradox - for most of us meditation was the way to Realisation.
Mike
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*From:* ED <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Tue, 1 March, 2011 18:20:57
*Subject:* Re: [Zen] Change
I believe that there are relatively few cases of individuals who have
claimed to have become spontaneously enlightened or were born enlightened.
--ED
--- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> ... I empathise with the Dzogchen claim that meditation is not
essential
> for enlightenmentm but is useful for developing mindfullness, moral
development,
> concentration etc. Only after Realisation is meditation essential
for deepening
> the initial breakthrough.
>
> Mike
