Hi, Gilberto,

At 05:09 PM 12/29/2004, you wrote:
>>You had said the Jewish Renewal movement accepted Islam and Christianity as 
>>legitimate paths. I was wondering if that acceptance was done on the basis of 
>>them being Noachides.<<

Most people connected with the Jewish Renewal movement are not that formal. 
Like many of those involved in the so-called New Age movement, their focus 
tends to be largely on experience. (Actually, Jewish Renewal is sort of a cross 
between Chasidim and new ageism.) If you asked many of these folks how they 
felt about the Noachide movement, assuming they even heard of it, they would 
probably want to know whether it helps them draw closer to God and/or transform 
the world (tikkun ulam).

>>I actually think it makes alot of sense as a way of reading the Bible.<<

As I said before, I think that almost all perspectives, at least the ones with 
any longevity, have an internal logic. A continuing dialectic between 
adherents, as historically grounded beings, and a paradigm, or assumptive 
framework, tends to maintain this internal consistency.

>>After the flood, there actually *is* a covenant set up with Noah and all his 
>>descendants (i.e. all human beings on the earth today...assuming a literal 
>>reading). The sign was the rainbow.<<

Jehovah's Witnesses call it "the rainbow covenant."

>>When you say "Hebrew Christian" is that a very specific movement you have in 
>>mind or is that more of a catch-all for the many churches who to varying 
>>degrees believe in the continuing validity of the Jewish Law?<<

There are many different Hebrew Christian movements. I am talking about those, 
such as the Assemblies of Yahweh (Bethel, Pennsylvania), which are not 
connected with mainline Protestant evangelicalism. (In other words, not groups 
like "Jews for Jesus.") Many of them are anti-Trinitarian (But not Monarchian 
or Arian), annihilationist (accepting the doctrine of conditional immortality, 
i.e., that unbelievers will be instantly *consumed* in hellfire, not go to an 
eternal punishment), and they believe in soul sleep.

I have listed many of them on this page:

http://links.religionsnet.com/hebrewchristians.html

However, not all of them are non-evangelical.

With regards, Mark A. Foster * 15 Sites: http://markfoster.net
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburger" -- Abbie Hoffman 


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