Nope and I get consistent messages on and off wiki from women saying cheat sheets are poorly designed or people are too busy... But I don't think surveys are being done about workshops and the guides they pass out (I believe in throwing people into the pool to learn how to swim).
I Still stand by hand holding...personal out weighs what we attempt... But perhaps I am old school in the world of wiki. I also lost a job to trolls who coincidentally also disagreed with my beliefs on commons...so I am particularly sensitive. Commons is a terrible and demoralizing place. The women's Commons revolution won't happen anytime soon..... Sarah On Jul 30, 2014 7:48 PM, "Kerry Raymond" <kerry.raym...@gmail.com> wrote: > Nice idea in principle, but there are still two hurdles to be overcome > > > > 1. How do you get the cheatsheet to the new female editor? How do you > spot new female editors? By what mechanism do you communicate with them? > Can you assume they know about User Talk (my almost entirely unsuccessful > attempts to communicate with new users in a friendly way to offer help > suggests many don’t see the message. > > > > 1. People don’t read user manuals, cheatsheets, etc. Every new > Wikipedia user already gets one of those “Welcome to Wikipedia” on their > User Tal which points them to a morass of information (which is admittedly > written in the language of the expert Wikipedian not the new user) and I > think these days they are also offered the “onboarding experience” (or > whatever precisely it is called) which aims to teach them to do basic > editing. However, generally what people (men and women) really want is “the > answer to the question I have here and now” to get them past the immediate > barrier to achieving their mission (whatever it was that motivated them to > click that Edit button), not a set of lessons nor a set of documentation. > Part of the problem we have created for ourselves is that all the policies > and processes and technologies have set the bar far too high for many new > editors to get started on their own. L > > > > Kerry > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: > gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Carol Moore dc > *Sent:* Thursday, 31 July 2014 10:24 AM > *To:* Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the > participationof women within Wikimedia projects. > *Subject:* Re: [Gendergap] [Spam] Re: Sexualized environment on Commons > > > > On 7/30/2014 5:51 AM, Marie Earley wrote: > > > >Things that I think might help: > > Help pages wise, I'm sure they'd love to see you at: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Help > > I know I wasted a couple years learning the hard way because the Help > pages didn't seem intuitive enough. > > However one trick we have to remember is to go to the search box and type > WP:_____ whatever the topic of interest is. One often gets a search return > that get one just where one wants to go. > > A "cheat sheet" of editing and conflict resolution tips for women would be > a great addition to: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Countering_systemic_bias/Gender_gap_task_force > > Which is slowly but surely coming along. > > CM > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >
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