[digitalradio] Re: CMSK - Up and Running
ALSO QRV 10.136. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, jhhay...@... wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3ukandy@ wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Phil Williams Two initial contacts via CMSK 63 - N4UM and K4UI. We are learning how to tune correctly. Currently done on 10136.00 + 1000 hz I'm now listening on 10136 + 1000 and have called CQ a few times Jim W6JVE
[digitalradio] Re: DominoEX On VHF FM
Good morning all... This has been interesting me since I read about it in QST last year. I, too, have been looking to do some experimenting with this mode. Last year, I briefly tested this by heading to my Churchabout 3.5 miles away. I brought along my TINY Sony Vaio and my IC-2AT...and then set my FT-817 in receive with DominoEX-8. With 100 mW, I had nearly solid print from the old 2AT and a rubber-duckie antenna. With better antennas, one would think that significantly better distances could be accomplished. Too bad more don't experiment like this. 73, John KB2HSH --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, JonP jpere...@... wrote: I have the need to set up some reliable local digital communications (say 10 mile radius from the base station) for data transfer, and to do so in a short period of time. I would normally first think of VHF FM packet, but a lot of people are running into troubles with things like Vista and Windows 7 (please, spare me the Linux or Apple and D*Star messages, they're not realistic in this situation). I've seen some references to running DominoEX and MFSK-16 on VHF FM. A number of my prospective operators are running digital modes such as DominoEX, MFSK, etc. on their computers now (under XP, Vista, Win7) without problems. Would one of those modes be realistic to run on 25 watt (or higher) mobiles on 2 meter FM using vertically polarized antennas? I realize that the vertical polarization would be an issue if we want to get out of the local area, but right now the need is within a local area and everyone would be running with a typical VHF vertical. If feasible, what sub-band would we use? I would assume the FM simplex sub-bands. Is that correct? Anything else we should consider? Any special issues/problems? I would think that we would not have to reduce power since these radios are already running FM, but if not the case please correct me. Thanks. Jon KB1QBZ
[digitalradio] Digital Suite Performance
While training for the Buffalo Marathon, I have been pondering (while on some LONG runs) which of the popular digital software (for Windows) offers the most performance. By that, I mean, best and most capable under the conditions, and not number of modes offered. By THAT comparison, MultiPSK would win handily, and there would be no need for any more discussion. However, having a QRP-only station forces me to try different suites for different reasons. Which software do YOU the members use? Which ones are better at weak-signal levels? Best ALL AROUND performer? I started wondering this recently as I downloaded the Weak Olivia wav file off of this group's FILES section. And MultiPSK could copy most of it, while fldigi could copy more than 99% of it with very few misses or errors. I haven't tried this experiment with DM780 yet...or MixW for that matter. Although I prefer the eye-candy/beauty of DM780, I still can't get away from MultiPSK and its usefulness...especially with ALE400, Pactor, or basic QRSS. John KB2HSH
[digitalradio] Re: ALE 400
Then don't use it, Howard. But your lack of understanding the software doesn't mean it's useless, garbage, or...in your wordsUNPROFESSIONAL. I'm sure Patrick has seen the comments about what the UI looks like. I was one that MADE comments in the past. I was able to overcome the large amounts of buttons by simply executing the program one day and merely staring at the screen. I examined each and every button-off the air. Once you walk around the neighborhood, you find your way around. And what you give up in beauty, you make up for in performance. Sure...some of us use other suites for different reasons. But MultiPSK is the ONLY one that includes as many modes as it does. fldigi comes closebut Multi is a swiss-army knife. KB2HSH --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Howard Z howar...@... wrote: Hmmm, Where the uninstaller? Oh, he doesn't seem to have one. I suppose he can't imagine anyone ever wanting to uninstall his software? This is the most unprofessional software I have ever seen. Howard --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, KH6TY kh6ty@ wrote: Howard, once you get used to it, you can understand why there are so many buttons and colors (to try and group). Just concentrate on the QSO after you have pushed the button you need and it will not feel so unfriendly. There is more to Patrick's program than any other and it is hard to handle all those functions without deep menu structures. The use of buttons and changing button selections is clever and really appreciated once you get used to it. Multipsk is technically nearly perfect and I always come back to it if I have trouble with any other program (which may be simpler looking). 73 - Skip KH6TY Designer of DigiPan Howard Z wrote: MultiPSK = Yick Ugg, can't stand to even look at the user interface. I don't care if his s/w can walk on water - I can't bring myself to use it. The author of MultiPSK needs to think about all the other software he uses, written by professionals, and consider how to make his own software easy to use and pleasant to look at. Yes, I know others may have different opinions. Howard
[digitalradio] Transmitting in ALE400
Perhaps I am missing something, but yesterday, I attempted to answer a CQ from KA1GMN and I couldn't get Multi to transmit. I did have the ANSWER key pressed. But, it still didn't work. HELP? KB2HSH
[digitalradio] Re: Transmitting in ALE400
HOW AWESOME! A response from the Master. Thank you so much, Patrick. I tried it and it works! Thanks for the help! John KB2HSH --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Lindecker f6...@... wrote: Hello, Once Answer pushed, if it is not a selective call, Multipsk must detect the CQ and automatically transmits to establish the handshaking with the Master. If you did not transmit, it means that the CQ was not decoded. Here are some hints: - It is strongly recommended to calibrate the sound-card: click on the Adjustments menu button, then select the Determination of the RX/TX sound-card sampling frequencies option and push on the Determination of the 48 KHz RX sampling frequency (test on 3 minutes) button. At the end of the test, click on Return, Note about the sound level (Level indication in % at the top of the screen): an AF level superior or equal to 10 % is OK. About 50 % is ideal (but not critical). In case of very low AF level, select 16 bits in the Determination of the RX/TX sound-card sampling frequencies option (Adjustments menu button), Check this and try again. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: kb2hsh kb2...@... To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:57 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Transmitting in ALE400 Perhaps I am missing something, but yesterday, I attempted to answer a CQ from KA1GMN and I couldn't get Multi to transmit. I did have the ANSWER key pressed. But, it still didn't work. HELP? KB2HSH http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html Chat, Skeds, and spots all in one (resize to suit)Yahoo! Groups Links
[digitalradio] Sparse activity in TARA Skirmish
After a few hours on and off operating the TARA Skirmish, it appears as though there aren't too many interested in this contest. Hopefully, there will be more activity today. Interestingly, I have made more Q's using PSK125 than 31. 73 de John KB2HSH
[digitalradio] Re: Opposition to the KQ6XA Recommendation
In return, it does benefit all the other digital modes which are looking for places to operate, Alan, that's plain stupid. Looking at my ARRL band/mode chart, I see in EVERY HF band the phrase RTTY and Data. Wow...DATAthere's my place to operate. John KB2HSH --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Alan Barrow ml9...@... wrote: kb2hsh wrote: This is little more than a frequency grab by Bonnie that would benefit the HF-ALE group, I feel, the most. OK, so I have to ask how would it benefit HFLink - HFLink already has well established centers of activity in the current bandplan - ALE by definition does not lead to frequency spreading. If anything, it concentrates activity onto specific frequencies. So if magically passed (unlikely), virtually nothing would change for HFLink operations. The only exception to this would be that we would now have a US bandplan that aligns with a more reasonable international one, which is not the case now. But it would not increase ALE operations at all, nor change current centers of activity unless forced to by the new plan. So tell me again how this benefits ALE ops? How would it be a frequency grab?? In return, it does benefit all the other digital modes which are looking for places to operate, including new modes yet to be defined. That may not be important to you. But it is to some! What if psk was never able to stake out a center of activity? Other modes As to timing of the submission? You guys are empowering Bonnie way too much. We just found out about it not too long ago when it was posted in another group. Bonnie was traveling for a bit, and submitted when she settled in. No more no less. It's too easy to villainize people who do not practice your hobby the way you like, and it weakens the entire hobby! I'd ask, why did we all just find out about this Why was this input session not pro-actively positioned to the key user groups so they would have time to comment? Seems to me like the fingers need to point to the people soliciting input. Reminds me of the Hitchhiker Guide to the Universe where the input sessions for destruction of earth was posted on Alpha centauri. But you had time to provide input No one replied!!!. I can tell from most of the responses so far that most did not even read the proposal, or some of the others floating around. It protects CW, and that is a key component of Bonnie's position for years. Nowhere that I see does it restrict CW ops to 15khz If this mindset prevailed, we'd still not have SSB, at best using AM CW. Or spark! The same end of the world arguments took place when SSB was introduced! sorry, guys but if conspiracy theories are the best we can come up with, we all lose! Have fun, Alan km4ba
[digitalradio] Re: evil Bonnie..
Point taken, neighbor! 73, John --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:07 AM, kb2hsh kb2...@... wrote: I 110% agree with you there. Bonnie (yes, I'm not bashful about calling her out) controls ALE as if it were HERS. In my opinion, it's little more than a business for her...not only can you join HF-ALE, but you can also BUY MERCHANDISE. John, Bonnie's group may sell merchandise but she has other successful businesses, so I doubt this is her motive. Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] Re: evil Bonnie..
Nice. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker, WØJAB w0...@... wrote: At 09:57 AM 4/8/2010, you wrote: John i have been there too Remember wide band digital on 6 and 2 meters ? I was removed by her from one list for asking questions that 2nd guessed her. The list was the yahoo VX1700 list. That is a Vertex radio. I have retired after 40 years working as a 2 way radio tech at (you will love this) a Vertex dealer. But that's OK I was not there to learn I was there to help others. You can look at it this way - Bonny is in here own little world. She not going to come out and nobody is getting. She is aA Legend in her Own Mind ! John, W0JAB Louisiana, Missouri.
[digitalradio] Re: A new concept in digital mode....
I 110% agree with you there. Bonnie (yes, I'm not bashful about calling her out) controls ALE as if it were HERS. In my opinion, it's little more than a business for her...not only can you join HF-ALE, but you can also BUY MERCHANDISE. ALE/141A is great in a military application, but amateurs that are involved in ARES/RACES (like myself) primarily use voice for emergency comms...maybe APRS, too. I would be willing to BET that in the Haiti crisis, not ONE bit of emergency traffic was passed via HF-ALE/HFLINK. If there WAS, I'd be honestly surprised. Let it be known that I operate 99% digital. I use voice on 10 meters. The rest of the time, I let the PC do the talking. And, I am not against experimentation with new modes. What I AM against is a person with control issues, motivated by greed. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker, WØJAB w0...@... wrote: I and many others will never touch ALE because of just one woman. It at this time has a bad name among many.
[digitalradio] Opposition to the KQ6XA Recommendation
This is little more than a frequency grab by Bonnie that would benefit the HF-ALE group, I feel, the most. If adopted, this would give Bonnie her own frequencies...channels if you will, that she or ANYONE else from the HF-ALE network could claim...and then chase away legal ops using her/their frequencies. It's pretty shameful on her part that she waited until the last possible minute to sneak her proposal through to the ARRL. If we had known in advance of her antics, she would have heard an earful from many, I'm sure. Hopefully, this pathetic excuse for spectrum sharing will be turned down. John KB2HSH
