Re: [sqlite] .exit in script is not working

2018-08-31 Thread Kees Nuyt
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 19:29:47 +0200, Stéphane AULERY
 wrote:

> When I use the -init option the .exit statement
> at the end of my script is never executed.
>
> I launch sqlite from a batch file on Windows Server 2012 and Windows 7 64 bit.
>
> Command line :
> sqlite3.exe -init myscript.scr

If you want a script to exit, use redirection:

sqlite3.exe http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users


Re: [sqlite] Lemon Parser vs bubble-generator.tcl

2018-08-31 Thread Richard Hipp
On 8/31/18, Warren Young  wrote:
> They’re separate.  Here’s the Tcl source for the bubble diagrams:
>
> https://www.sqlite.org/docsrc/file/?name=art/syntax/bubble-generator-data.tcl
>
> …and here’s the Lemon grammar for SQLite’s SQL parser:
>
> https://www.sqlite.org/src/file?name=src/parse.y
>

The parse.y file is designed to generate a fast parser automaton.  The
bubble-generator-data.tcl file is designed to generate output that is
easily understandable by humans.  These two files are therefore at
cross-purposes.

One little-noticed aspect of SQLite that the source code to the
LALR(1) parser generator (Lemon) is included in the source tree.  The
fact that SQLite uses its own parser generator, rather than relying
yacc/bison or similar, has proven very helpful over the years.  We've
been able to add features, fix bugs, and make optimizations to the
parser that would not have been possible had we been dependent on an
outside tool.
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Re: [sqlite] Lemon Parser vs bubble-generator.tcl

2018-08-31 Thread Scott Robison
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 2:59 PM Warren Young  wrote:
>
> On Aug 31, 2018, at 1:55 PM, Scott Robison  wrote:
> >
> > Is one generated from the other, or are they maintained separately?
>
> They’re separate.  Here’s the Tcl source for the bubble diagrams:

As I suspected having looked at them in the source tree. Thanks for
the confirmation.

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Re: [sqlite] Lemon Parser vs bubble-generator.tcl

2018-08-31 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 31, 2018, at 1:55 PM, Scott Robison  wrote:
> 
> Is one generated from the other, or are they maintained separately?

They’re separate.  Here’s the Tcl source for the bubble diagrams:


https://www.sqlite.org/docsrc/file/?name=art/syntax/bubble-generator-data.tcl

…and here’s the Lemon grammar for SQLite’s SQL parser:

https://www.sqlite.org/src/file?name=src/parse.y

Here’s a brief article on the script that may explain a few things:

https://wiki.tcl.tk/21708

> I...want to do something related to
> identifying SQL syntax at C++ compile time.

In that case, I’d study how ./src/parse.y gets turned into ./parse.[ch] in the 
SQLite source tree, then try to reuse as much of parse.y and its associated 
bits as you can.
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[sqlite] .exit in script is not working

2018-08-31 Thread Stéphane AULERY
Hello,

 

When I use the -init option the .exit statement at the end of my script is 
never executed.

 

I launch sqlite from a batch file on Windows Server 2012 and Windows 7 64 bit.

 

 

Command line :

 

sqlite3.exe -init myscript.scr

 

 

myscript.scr :

 

.log sqlite.log

.bail off

.nullvalue ""

 

CREATE TABLE STOCKSMAG (

Article TEXT,

CodeDepot TEXT,

QteStock INTEGER,

ECclient INTEGER,

Dispo INTEGER,

ECfour INTEGER,

Proj INTEGER,

DateGen DATETIME,

SeuilReappro INTEGER

);

 

.import STOCKSMAG.txt STOCKSMAG

 

 

 

.output STOCKSCUMUL.txt

 

SELECT

 Article,

 SUM (QteStock) AS QteStock,

 SUM (ECclient) AS ECclient,

 SUM (Dispo) AS Dispo,

 SUM (ECfour) AS ECfour,

 SUM (Proj) AS Proj

FROM STOCKSMAG

GROUP BY Article

ORDER BY Article;

 

.exit

 

 

STOCKSMAG.txt :

 

Article|CodeDepot|QteStock|ECclient|Dispo|ECfour|Proj|DateGen|SeuilReappro 

01|117|0|0|0|0|0|30/08/2018|

01|118|0|0|0|0|0|30/08/2018|

01|121|0|0|0|0|0|30/08/2018|

01|125|0|0|0|0|0|30/08/2018|

 

Regards,

 

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Développeur

 

Service informatique

Narbonne Accessoires

04.68.44.16.54

 

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[sqlite] Lemon Parser vs bubble-generator.tcl

2018-08-31 Thread Scott Robison
SQLite language as implemented uses a Lemon based parser. The syntax
diagrams are created from the bubble-generator.tcl script. Is one
generated from the other, or are they maintained separately? Is one
(or another file that I don't know exists yet) the canonical
description of the "complete" SQLite syntax?

I ask because I'm working on a project idea for a senior project class
I'll be taking this fall and want to do something related to
identifying SQL syntax at C++ compile time. In doing a little research
/ planning, I started by creating my own syntax description from some
of the diagrams, then realized "I should just use portions of the
syntax diagram script directly", then started wondering about the
parser vs the diagram script.

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Re: [sqlite] Strategies to reduce page-loads?

2018-08-31 Thread t...@qvgps.com
Right.

Was trying it out now, compiling some osm-dbs with primary key generated 
with this morton encoding from lat,lon and the performance is even 
worse.
Debugging with the sqlite-tool shows, that the page counts for specific 
queries are almost double then before.

Seems like, from the sqlite-side the only options is to have page size 
as big as possible and line-data in the blob-field as much compressed as 
possible.



-- Originalnachricht --
Von: "Simon Slavin" 
An: "SQLite mailing list" 
Gesendet: 31.08.2018 19:07:36
Betreff: Re: [sqlite] Strategies to reduce page-loads?

>On 31 Aug 2018, at 2:46pm, J Decker  wrote:
>
>>There was a voxel engine that was claiming they were going to move to 
>>a
>>morton encoding; and I was working with a different engine, so I built 
>>a
>>simulator to test averge lookup distances; it was far more efficient 
>>to
>>keep sectors of voxels (32x32x32) in flat indexing, which made the 
>>maximum
>>distance 1025
>
>I can confirm that SatNav units do not keep their maps in Morton code 
>order.  It's not a no-brainer go-to solution for mapping.  However, the 
>analysis done to figure out a good storage order is rather complicated 
>and off-topic for this list.
>
>Simon.
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Re: [sqlite] Strategies to reduce page-loads?

2018-08-31 Thread Simon Slavin
On 31 Aug 2018, at 2:46pm, J Decker  wrote:

> There was a voxel engine that was claiming they were going to move to a
> morton encoding; and I was working with a different engine, so I built a
> simulator to test averge lookup distances; it was far more efficient to
> keep sectors of voxels (32x32x32) in flat indexing, which made the maximum
> distance 1025

I can confirm that SatNav units do not keep their maps in Morton code order.  
It's not a no-brainer go-to solution for mapping.  However, the analysis done 
to figure out a good storage order is rather complicated and off-topic for this 
list.

Simon.
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Re: [sqlite] Best practices for forward conversion of database formats?

2018-08-31 Thread dmp
Randall wrote:
~
~
> Any application that involves a "persistent" database, i.e., one where
the data is
> long-lived and expected to exist and evolve over time, sooner or later
has the issue
> of moving customers from a V1 database to a V2 database.  Obviously at
least one
> technical issue (there are probably others) is how to convert existing
data from one
> DB format to another, given some arbitrary set of changes in the
database schema in
> the interim.

> Are there accepted or best practices in the industry for handling this
in general,
> or with SQLite in particular?  Can anyone who has implemented this make
useful
> suggestions?  Or are there published resources I am missing?

Hello,

I should suppose pretense with I'm wholly ignorant to such a process, but
even
has such may have some wisdom. The only reason I'm replying because I have
been
working on I guess an ORM, data converter it seems.

One, it seems data is best preserved in a standard raw format such as CSV.
SQL
statements from one database do not translate to another databases well and
perhaps of the same database v1 to v2.

Two, with changes to schema it seems the simple way to go would be export
data
in a query fashion, to match the new schema. Leave out columns not needed and
a default for new.

Three, this in hindsight, but data should be always be in it simplest form as
possible, Integer, Char, etc. The most intolerant data is temporal
information.
For these ALWAYS use a SQL or a common appropriate standard.

danap.

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Re: [sqlite] Strategies to reduce page-loads?

2018-08-31 Thread J Decker
On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 4:48 AM Richard Hipp  wrote:

> On 8/30/18, t...@qvgps.com  wrote:
> >
> > Structure is  simple:
> > CREATE TABLE Lines(Id LONG PRIMARY KEY, Label VARCHAR(50), Coordinates
> > BLOB, Flags INT, StyleId INT);
> > And an rtree-index:
> > CREATE VIRTUAL TABLE Lines_bb USING rtree (Id LONG PRIMARY KEY, X0
> > FLOAT, X1 FLOAT, Y0 FLOAT, Y1 FLOAT, Z0 FLOAT, Z1 FLOAT);
>
> Three points that might help, either separately or in combination:
>
> (1) Use exactly "INTEGER PRIMARY KEY".  "LONG PRIMARY KEY" and "INT
> PRIMARY KEY" are not the same thing and do not work as well.
>
> (2) In the very latest versions of SQLite, 3.24,0 and the beta for
> 3.25.0, you can put the "Lines" information directly in the RTree:
>
>CREATE VIRTUAL TABLE Lines_bb USING rtree(id, x0, x1, y0, y1, z0,
> z1, +Label, +Coordinates, +Flags, +StyleId);
>
> The extra columns in r-tree are prefaced by a "+" character so that
> the r-tree module knows that they are auxiliary columns and not extra
> coordinates.
>
> (3) Consider deliberating choosing INTEGER PRIMARY KEY values based on
> a "Morton code" or "Z-Order curve" of the coordinates.
>

Morton code and zorder curves look, initially, to be good for keeping near
things near, but the average distance for two elements is much greater than
the row skip in a similar linear col + n*rows type flat array; and more
often will span +4 distinct pages instead of being just 1 or 2 for here
and +/- 1 page for rows above/below

On the 2^n boundaries, the skips become very significant, and grabbing
random queries is guaranteed to cover more space.  so like at 15,15,15 to
16,16,16 there is a huge jump in space ( 4096) instead of a constant offset.

There was a voxel engine that was claiming they were going to move to a
morton encoding; and I was working with a different engine, so I built a
simulator to test averge lookup distances; it was far more efficient to
keep sectors of voxels (32x32x32) in flat indexing, which made the maximum
distance 1025 ( but along that row is +1023, 1024, 1025, which are all in
the same page, where morton would be like +512, +1024, +2048, which makes
it much more likely to overflow to yet another page.  (since the cells
arent' just bytes, all indexes should be mulitplied by cell structure size)

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-order_curve)  That will cause
> features that are close together geographically to tend to be close
> together within the file.  There is are two extension functions in the
> https://www.sqlite.org/src/artifact/b0ff58fa643afa1d file of the
> SQLite source tree that might help you with this.  Or you can do the
> same using your own functions.
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Re: [sqlite] Strategies to reduce page-loads?

2018-08-31 Thread Richard Hipp
On 8/31/18, t...@qvgps.com  wrote:
> Ok, then WITHOUT ROWID will most properly fit best in our use case.
> Then I can fill the PRIMARY KEY with the z-order and store the osm-id
> just in another column.

I would think that your best approach is to make the INTEGER PRIMARY
KEY be the Morton code and then store the osm-id in a separate UNIQUE
column.

>
> But do I still need to fill the table in the correct order according to
> z-order?
> I mean, we are talking about 1mio rows or so.
> At which point during insert are the pages actually written?

The table-fill will go much faster if you do the inserts in ROWID or
INTEGER PRIMARY KEY order, then do a "CREATE UNIQUE INDEX" on the
osm-id after all inserts have completed.  But it will work in either
case.

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Re: [sqlite] Strategies to reduce page-loads?

2018-08-31 Thread t...@qvgps.com
Ok, then WITHOUT ROWID will most properly fit best in our use case.
Then I can fill the PRIMARY KEY with the z-order and store the osm-id 
just in another column.

But do I still need to fill the table in the correct order according to 
z-order?
I mean, we are talking about 1mio rows or so.
At which point during insert are the pages actually written?


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Betreff: Re: [sqlite] Strategies to reduce page-loads?

>On 8/31/18, t...@qvgps.com  wrote:
>>
>>So is it just the value of the primary key controlling in which page 
>>the
>>row is stored?
>
>The page on which content is stored is determine (approximately) by
>the value of the ROWID, which is the same as the INTEGER PRIMARY KEY
>as long as you declare the primary key to be of type "INTEGER".  If
>you declare the PRIMARY KEY to be something other than "INTEGER" (for
>example: "INT" or "LONG") then the ROWID and the primary key are
>different and the primary key has no influence over where the content
>is stored.
>
>Or if you create a WITHOUT ROWID table, then the PRIMARY KEY is the
>value that determines (approximately) on which page the content is
>stored.
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Re: [sqlite] Strategies to reduce page-loads?

2018-08-31 Thread Richard Hipp
On 8/31/18, t...@qvgps.com  wrote:
>
> So is it just the value of the primary key controlling in which page the
> row is stored?

The page on which content is stored is determine (approximately) by
the value of the ROWID, which is the same as the INTEGER PRIMARY KEY
as long as you declare the primary key to be of type "INTEGER".  If
you declare the PRIMARY KEY to be something other than "INTEGER" (for
example: "INT" or "LONG") then the ROWID and the primary key are
different and the primary key has no influence over where the content
is stored.

Or if you create a WITHOUT ROWID table, then the PRIMARY KEY is the
value that determines (approximately) on which page the content is
stored.
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Re: [sqlite] Strategies to reduce page-loads?

2018-08-31 Thread t...@qvgps.com
>
>(3) Consider deliberating choosing INTEGER PRIMARY KEY values based on
>a "Morton code" or "Z-Order curve" of the coordinates.
>(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-order_curve)  That will cause
>features that are close together geographically to tend to be close
>together within the file.

My primary key is actually the Id of the specific object in the 
OpenStreetMap-database, and we also need this osm-id in the app.
I was trying just to order all rows by the "Z-Order curve"-value first 
before inserting them.

for each (line in lines.ordered.by.zvalue)
{
 insert line  into lines
 insert line  into lines_rtree
}

But this doesn't seem to work.
At least, I don't see any improvements in page-usage.

So is it just the value of the primary key controlling in which page the 
row is stored?





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Re: [sqlite] [O] A strange problem with org-babel and SQLite

2018-08-31 Thread Cecil Westerhof
Oops, wrong group. Sorry. :'-(

2018-08-31 12:21 GMT+02:00 Cecil Westerhof :

> 2018-08-31 11:17 GMT+02:00 Robert Klein :
>
>> Hi Cecil,
>>
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:47:50 +0200
>> Cecil Westerhof  wrote:
>>
>> > I have a strange problem with org-babel and SQLite.
>> >
>> > I have a database that is created with:
>> > CREATE TABLE "quotes" (
>> > quoteID TEXT   PRIMARY KEY,
>> > quote   TEXT NOT NULL  UNIQUE,
>> > lastUsedTEXT,
>> > totalUsed   INT  DEFAULT 'unused'
>> > )
>> >
>> > When using:
>> > #+BEGIN_SRC sqlite :db ~/Twitter/twitter.sqlite :colnames yes
>> > SELECT   lastUsed
>> > ,totalUsed
>> > FROM quotes
>> > ORDER BY lastused  ASC
>> > ,totalUsed DESC
>> > LIMIT40
>> > #+END_SRC
>> >
>> > Everything is fine. But when I use (add the quote field in the
>> > select): #+BEGIN_SRC sqlite :db ~/Twitter/twitter.sqlite :colnames yes
>> > SELECT   quote
>> > ,lastUsed
>> > ,totalUsed
>> > FROM quotes
>> > ORDER BY lastused  ASC
>> > ,totalUsed DESC
>> > LIMIT40
>> > #+END_SRC
>> >
>> > I get:
>> > executing Sqlite code block...
>> > Wrote /tmp/babel-27920y_/ob-input-2792BTG
>> > org-babel-read: End of file during parsing
>> >
>> > What could be the problem?
>> >
>>
>> does it work outside of org/babel/emacs, that is, when you use the
>> query in a command line sqlite session, does it work?  “quote” is also
>> a function in sqlite, so this might be your issue.
>>
>
> Yes, in sqlite3 and sqlitebrowser it works without problems.
> In org-babel even 'SELECT *' goes wrong.
>
> --
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>



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Re: [sqlite] [O] A strange problem with org-babel and SQLite

2018-08-31 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2018-08-31 11:17 GMT+02:00 Robert Klein :

> Hi Cecil,
>
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:47:50 +0200
> Cecil Westerhof  wrote:
>
> > I have a strange problem with org-babel and SQLite.
> >
> > I have a database that is created with:
> > CREATE TABLE "quotes" (
> > quoteID TEXT   PRIMARY KEY,
> > quote   TEXT NOT NULL  UNIQUE,
> > lastUsedTEXT,
> > totalUsed   INT  DEFAULT 'unused'
> > )
> >
> > When using:
> > #+BEGIN_SRC sqlite :db ~/Twitter/twitter.sqlite :colnames yes
> > SELECT   lastUsed
> > ,totalUsed
> > FROM quotes
> > ORDER BY lastused  ASC
> > ,totalUsed DESC
> > LIMIT40
> > #+END_SRC
> >
> > Everything is fine. But when I use (add the quote field in the
> > select): #+BEGIN_SRC sqlite :db ~/Twitter/twitter.sqlite :colnames yes
> > SELECT   quote
> > ,lastUsed
> > ,totalUsed
> > FROM quotes
> > ORDER BY lastused  ASC
> > ,totalUsed DESC
> > LIMIT40
> > #+END_SRC
> >
> > I get:
> > executing Sqlite code block...
> > Wrote /tmp/babel-27920y_/ob-input-2792BTG
> > org-babel-read: End of file during parsing
> >
> > What could be the problem?
> >
>
> does it work outside of org/babel/emacs, that is, when you use the
> query in a command line sqlite session, does it work?  “quote” is also
> a function in sqlite, so this might be your issue.
>

Yes, in sqlite3 and sqlitebrowser it works without problems.
In org-babel even 'SELECT *' goes wrong.

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Re: [sqlite] Best practices for forward conversion of database formats?

2018-08-31 Thread Ling, Andy
> This is not strictly a SQLite question, though in my case it is.
> 
> Any application that involves a "persistent" database, i.e., one where the
> data is long-lived and expected to exist and evolve over time, sooner or later
> has the issue of moving customers from a V1 database to a V2 database.

Several have given examples of holding a schema version number in the database 
and
having your application know how to upgrade from one to the next. I have used
similar mechanisms, but one thing I would say. If you have to maintain older 
versions
of your app, make a jump in the schema version when you switch major version of 
you app.

For example, if you have version 1.5 of your app and you move to version 2.0, 
then you
need to make a version 1.6 for some reason and it needs a schema change. If you 
jumped
to say, schema version 100 for app 2.0, it is much easier to add a new schema 
version for 1.6
that can then be handled by 2.x

Also, one system I worked on used SQL script files to make the database 
changes. e.g. There would be
a script that updated from schema 2 to 3. To go with this there would also be a 
script that
downgraded from schema 3 to 2. These scripts where left by the installer, so if 
you needed
to install an earlier version of code, it could find the "downgrade" scripts 
and run them
without the earlier version of code having to know how to downgrade.

HTH

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Re: [sqlite] beginners question

2018-08-31 Thread Klaus Maas

email signature Klaus Maas

On 2018-08-30 21:39, Jürgen Palm wrote:

Richard Hipp wrote:

On 8/30/18, Jürgen Palm  wrote:


Richard Hipp wrote:

On 8/30/18, Klaus Maas  wrote:

Same issues on Xubuntu 16.04 and 18.04

US international keyboard layout

Actually 2 questions:

1) The precompiled binary for Linux of sqlite3  does not run, but
sqldiff and sqlite3_analyzer do.
./sqlite3: error while loading shared libraries: libz.so.1: cannot 
open

shared object file: No such file or directory
What steps can I take to provide the missing library?

You have a desktop linux machine on which libz is not installed?  I
didn't even know that was possible.

What flavor of linux are you running?



He mentioned it in the first sentence: Xubuntu 16.04 and 18.04. Of
course, libz.so.1 is installed. I've currently running a virtual 
machine

with Xubuntu 18.04 and tried also to execute the precompiled binary and
it didn't work, but I didn't actually expect it as I'm running a 64bit
system. Most likely the problem from Klaus is caused by the same 
reason.
So, perhaps the solution is for Klaus to compile it himself from 
sources?


If he is indeed running a 64bit system he could also just install the 
package zlib1g:i386, which contains the 32bit version of libz.so.1. 
With this package installed, the precompiled sqlite binary is running 
properly on my 64bit system.
Dear Jürgen, I am running 64-bit versions of Xubuntu as you assumed 
correctly.

Thank you for the tip - and for providing the lib name explicitly.
"sudo apt install zlib1g:i386" did the trick.
The precompiled Linux sqlite version 3.24.0 starts as expected and the 
keyboard codes of the navigation keys are interpreted correctly.

Tried it on Xubuntu 16.04 so far only - still my main system.
What puzzled me at first was that neither apt policy nor apt search 
would show me the lib, even when requesting it litterally.
Then I remembered that on a 64-bit OS the 32-bit libraries are filtered 
out by default.

Now that the 32bit lib is installed apt policy will show its status.
Thank you all for helping me so swiftly.
Klaus




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