Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-07 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 allen wrote: FYI - A few versions back when I had this problem I made an entry for 127.0.0.2. Seems only the 127.0.0.1 is blown over by whatever. And, interestingly, any 127.0.0.x will work nicely for local loopback. I doubt it is supposed

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-07 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 06 March 2003 03:46 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 06 March 2003 11:14 am, Buchan Milne wrote: The problem still exists that after user runs drakconnect, GNOME cannot resolve localhost. Before

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-07 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 07 March 2003 06:28 am, Buchan Milne wrote: $ getent hosts `hostname` Thanks Buchan, I did see the post that an update was made and I'll test it tonight. Greg, I installed rc2 last night, and there are two issues I see so far 1)No way to set DHCP_HOSTNAME in

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-07 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Meyer wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 06:28 am, Buchan Milne wrote: $ getent hosts `hostname` Thanks Buchan, I did see the post that an update was made and I'll test it tonight. Greg, I installed rc2 last night, and there are two issues I

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-07 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Buchan Milne wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: Greg, I installed rc2 last night, and there are two issues I see so far 1)No way to set DHCP_HOSTNAME in /etc/syconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth? except manually. 2)HOSTNAME is not set in /etc/sysconfig/network

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-07 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 07 March 2003 09:02 am, Buchan Milne wrote: It seems to me there should also be an entry in dhclient-eth0.conf to tell the dhcp client to send the requested hostname. No need: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bgmilne]# grep -i hostname /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-07 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Meyer wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 09:02 am, Buchan Milne wrote: And I want my dhcp server to take the hostname I provide and update its dhcp table, which it does for my 9.0 and Windows boxes. If I manually set DHCP_HOSTNAME (this also

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-06 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
Le mar 25/02/2003 à 11:20, Teletchéa Stéphane a écrit : https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1583 I think these entries are missing in /etc/hosts : localhost.localdomain. There has already been a discussion about this point, but it is not fixed. Unless this line, gnome fails to

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-06 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
Le jeu 06/03/2003 à 14:49, Teletchéa Stéphane a écrit : Le mar 25/02/2003 à 11:20, Teletchéa Stéphane a écrit : https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1583 I think these entries are missing in /etc/hosts : localhost.localdomain. There has already been a discussion about this

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-06 Thread Jaco Greeff
On 06 Mar 2003 14:49:27 +0100, Teletchéa Stéphane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : I think these entries are missing in /etc/hosts : localhost.localdomain. snip Unless this line, gnome fails to load correctly. I did a fresh install everytime, so it is missing in the install

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-06 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jaco Greeff wrote: On 06 Mar 2003 14:49:27 +0100, Teletchéa Stéphane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : I think these entries are missing in /etc/hosts : localhost.localdomain. snip Unless this line, gnome fails to load correctly. I did a fresh

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-06 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 06 March 2003 10:14 am, Jaco Greeff wrote: On 06 Mar 2003 14:49:27 +0100, Teletchéa Stéphane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : I think these entries are missing in /etc/hosts : localhost.localdomain. snip Unless this line, gnome fails to load correctly. I did a fresh

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-06 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 06 March 2003 11:14 am, Buchan Milne wrote: Is the GNOME problem fixed or do the entries appear in /etc/hosts. In my experience on RC2 as soon as you go through the DrakConnect dialogs, (DHCP machine) the /etc/hosts file gets rewritten as 127.0.0.1 localhost, the entry is

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-06 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 06 March 2003 11:14 am, Buchan Milne wrote: The problem still exists that after user runs drakconnect, GNOME cannot resolve localhost. Before and after entry in /etc/hosts is the same 127.0.0.1

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-06 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 06 March 2003 03:46 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 06 March 2003 11:14 am, Buchan Milne wrote: The problem still exists that after user runs drakconnect, GNOME cannot resolve localhost. Before and after entry in /etc/hosts is the same 127.0.0.1

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-06 Thread allen
On Thursday 06 March 2003 04:16 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 06 March 2003 03:46 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 06 March 2003 11:14 am, Buchan Milne wrote: The problem still exists that after user runs drakconnect, GNOME cannot resolve localhost. Before

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-06 Thread Duncan
On Thu 06 Mar 2003 15:25, allen posted as excerpted below: And, interestingly, any 127.0.0.x will work nicely for local loopback. I doubt it is supposed to be that way, but it is that way. Something to take special note of in IPTables rules, that. Don't deny just 127.0.0.1 from external

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-06 Thread allen
On Thursday 06 March 2003 10:52 pm, Duncan wrote: On Thu 06 Mar 2003 15:25, allen posted as excerpted below: And, interestingly, any 127.0.0.x will work nicely for local loopback. Something to take special note of in IPTables rules, that. Don't deny just 127.0.0.1 from external

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-06 Thread Duncan
On Thu 06 Mar 2003 22:13, allen posted as excerpted below: Keywords SHOULD NOT I have caught some of these coming through my cable modem once I noticed that my machine responds to more than just 127.0.0.1... I blocked off the whole 127.0.0.x and then noticed some crap coming through my

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-01 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 01:24, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Sparenberg wrote: OK let's try this again... please listen carefully slowly install MDK... start box for the very first time. Box is not connected to the net. Box has not

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-01 Thread Buchan Milne
On 28 Feb 2003, James Sparenberg wrote: But you are complaining about the wrong issue. The hostname should *not* be set to localhost.localdomain. If it has not been configured by the user it should be localhost. Hardcoding is the wrong approach, since it *will* result in it breaking again

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-03-01 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 01 March 2003 12:20 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: But you are complaining about the wrong issue. The hostname should *not* be set to localhost.localdomain. If it has not been configured by the user it should be localhost. Hardcoding is the wrong approach, since it *will* result

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-28 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Sparenberg wrote: OK let's try this again... please listen carefully slowly install MDK... start box for the very first time. Box is not connected to the net. Box has not yet been configured. Box is brand new. Gnome does not

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-28 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
Le ven 28/02/2003 à 10:22, Luca Olivetti a écrit : Buchan Milne wrote: Sorry, but I do not see a localhost.localdomain. I don't have any other unix to check on available at the moment, but AFAIK, localhost.localdomain was thought up by Redhat. IIRC it was introduced to fix a broken

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-28 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: Le ven 28/02/2003 à 10:22, Luca Olivetti a écrit : IIRC it was introduced to fix a broken sendmail at the time (that needed both a hostname and a domain). And mandrake does not even default to sendmail. I'm not

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-28 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Charlie wrote: On February 27, 2003 11:28 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: c) Fix your DNS. Good idea for the development version and the people that are putting this new release together; but a bit too much for a lot of end users that just expect

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-28 Thread Ben Reser
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 12:48:09PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: Yes, 'host `hostname`' or 'getent hosts `hostname`' should work out the box on every machine. host `hostname` will *NEVER* work without a DNS server. host does not use /etc/hosts for resolution at all. It only talks to DNS servers.

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-27 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 03:41, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: Or if your are in a situation like mine. A mixed Linux/Unix enviroment where One box with 9.1 on it (and likely to never be more than 2 or 3 out of about 150)

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-27 Thread Reinout van Schouwen
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Buchan Milne wrote: a) Edit /etc/hosts b) Give up on proftpd / gnome and use something else. c) Fix your DNS. Hello! Does my mother have a DNS on her standalone PC? Didn't think so. GNOME, too, should Just Work for standalone configurations without having an

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-27 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Reinout van Schouwen wrote: On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Buchan Milne wrote: a) Edit /etc/hosts b) Give up on proftpd / gnome and use something else. c) Fix your DNS. Hello! Does my mother have a DNS on her standalone PC? Didn't think so. GNOME,

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-27 Thread andre
On Thursday 27 February 2003 12:50, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Reinout van Schouwen wrote: On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Buchan Milne wrote: a) Edit /etc/hosts b) Give up on proftpd / gnome and use something else. c) Fix your DNS. Hello! Does my

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-27 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 andre wrote: On Thursday 27 February 2003 12:50, Buchan Milne wrote: loopbackdevice is a network interface If i'm not mistaken. And she needs it to run X I was meaning a real (not virtual) network interface (ie a modem, network card etc). Maybe

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-27 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 01:32, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 03:41, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: Or if your are in a situation like mine. A mixed Linux/Unix enviroment where One box with 9.1 on it (and

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-27 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 03:50, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Reinout van Schouwen wrote: On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Buchan Milne wrote: a) Edit /etc/hosts b) Give up on proftpd / gnome and use something else. c) Fix your DNS. Hello! Does my

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-26 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
Le mer 26/02/2003 à 06:33, Steve Fox a écrit : On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 07:47, Greg Meyer wrote: Well whatever the solution is, GNOME won't start without error until I hard code localhost.localdomain into /etc/hosts. [EMAIL PROTECTED] st-perl]$ cat /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 tp localhost

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-26 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
Le mar 25/02/2003 à 14:47, Greg Meyer a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 25 February 2003 08:47 am, Buchan Milne wrote: Which is exactly why I said localhost.localdomain *must not* be hardcoded into /etc/hosts. The question is, when should `hostname`

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-26 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: Le mar 25/02/2003 à 14:47, Greg Meyer a écrit : Yes, this is what i mean. I understand that i cannot be hardcoded abruptly. But as many users will choose gnome, some of them, e.g. those like me without any domain name,

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-26 Thread Reinout van Schouwen
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: This needs a fix. If no network name is defined, the localhost.localdomain must be present in order to fix the error message and connection into gnome. Seconded. I've had to fix this problem since the first time I used Mandrake and it's a bad

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-26 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: Le mar 25/02/2003 à 14:47, Greg Meyer a écrit : This needs a fix. If no network name is defined, the localhost.localdomain must be present in order to fix the error message and connection into gnome. IMHO,

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-26 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Buchan Milne wrote: Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: Le mar 25/02/2003 à 14:47, Greg Meyer a écrit : This needs a fix. If no network name is defined, the localhost.localdomain must be present in order to fix the error message and connection into gnome.

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-26 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
Le mer 26/02/2003 à 12:02, Buchan Milne a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: Le mar 25/02/2003 à 14:47, Greg Meyer a écrit : Yes, this is what i mean. I understand that i cannot be hardcoded abruptly. But as many users will choose gnome,

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-26 Thread Greg Meyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 26 February 2003 06:20 am, Buchan Milne wrote: Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: Le mar 25/02/2003 à 14:47, Greg Meyer a écrit : This needs a fix. If no network name is defined, the localhost.localdomain must be present in order to fix

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-26 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 03:41, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: Le mer 26/02/2003 à 12:02, Buchan Milne a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: Le mar 25/02/2003 à 14:47, Greg Meyer a écrit : Yes, this is what i mean. I understand that i

[Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-25 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1583 I think these entries are missing in /etc/hosts : localhost.localdomain. There has already been a discussion about this point, but it is not fixed. Unless this line, gnome fails to load correctly. I did a fresh install everytime, so it is

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-25 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1583 I think these entries are missing in /etc/hosts : localhost.localdomain. There has already been a discussion about this point, but it is not fixed. Unless this line,

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-25 Thread sebastid
Sitat Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Teletcha Stphane wrote: https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1583 I think these entries are missing in /etc/hosts : localhost.localdomain. There has already been a

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-25 Thread Greg Meyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 25 February 2003 07:38 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doing it in the install process would be *even* more broken. It should be done in the network init scripts, so that an entry for 127.0.0.1 is made for the output of hostname

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-25 Thread sebastid
Sitat Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 25 February 2003 07:38 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doing it in the install process would be *even* more broken. It should be done in the network init scripts, so that

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-25 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1583 I think these entries are missing in /etc/hosts : localhost.localdomain. Doing it in the install process would be *even* more broken. It should be done in the network init scripts, so that an entry for 127.0.0.1 is made for the

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-25 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is wrong. The default hostname for 127.0.0.1 should be localhost. Yes. But the default `hostname` can be localhost.localdomain (although localhost may be better) (but, your wording is weird, since we are talking about

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-25 Thread Greg Meyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 25 February 2003 08:47 am, Buchan Milne wrote: Which is exactly why I said localhost.localdomain *must not* be hardcoded into /etc/hosts. The question is, when should `hostname` get an entry in /etc/hosts pointing to the loopback? In a

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-25 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Meyer wrote: Well whatever the solution is, GNOME won't start without error until I hard code localhost.localdomain into /etc/hosts. Yes, we all know this, we are just trying to find the best solution. This behavior has existed for as

Re: [Cooker] Bug 1583 not taken into account ?

2003-02-25 Thread Steve Fox
On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 07:47, Greg Meyer wrote: Well whatever the solution is, GNOME won't start without error until I hard code localhost.localdomain into /etc/hosts. [EMAIL PROTECTED] st-perl]$ cat /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 tp localhost Works fine here -- Steve Fox http://k-lug.org