RE: [digitalradio] Humans tolerate robots!

2008-01-01 Thread Dave AA6YQ
The flaw in your rhetoric, Jaak, is that Winlink PMBOs are QRMing existing QSOs whether or not an emergency is in progress. No one has a problem with this during an emergency -- but most of the time (thank goodness!) there is no emergency, and we're being QRM'd for no rational reason. There is

Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail

2008-01-01 Thread Rein Couperus
Technically not a big deal indeed. But we are still talking about a few months of spare time :) I will think about it. It might even bring some new life to the packet network. Where I live it is a dying sport. Traffic on our local node (PI1EHV) has gone down to some 10% of what it was...

[digitalradio] Re: PSKmail

2008-01-01 Thread cesco12342000
I will think about it. It would be nice to have the pskmail functionality in a re-usable form. The actual code is not easy to run in windows, i did try and failed. The actual file-io message transfer system has the advantage to be universally usable. It's not linked to a specific psk31

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Standard sideband for digi modes?

2008-01-01 Thread Rick
The only time you would need specific tones as Demetre mentions below, is if you have filters that are preset for those tones. This is the way it used to be in the past with one filter tuned for the mark frequency and the other for the shift frequency offset. Mostly that was standardized with

[digitalradio] CQ PACTOR on 14.07750 now

2008-01-01 Thread Demetre SV1UY
Hi Nick and all, Happy New Year. I am calling CQ on PACTOR right now and I will continue until 16.00 UTC. Anyone from USA interested please reply on PACTOR 1 or 2. 73 de Demetre SV1UY

[digitalradio] Re: PSKmail

2008-01-01 Thread Vojtech Bubnik
It would be nice to have the pskmail functionality in a re-usable form. The code is complicated enough to need deep involvement to understand. It's not possible to quick-hack it into C. We need the help of the author ! There is a C implementation of flARQ. It uses gtk UI toolkit and

[digitalradio] Re: CQ PACTOR on 14.07750 now

2008-01-01 Thread iam9z4cp
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Demetre SV1UY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Nick and all, Happy New Year. I am calling CQ on PACTOR right now and I will continue until 16.00 UTC. Anyone from USA interested please reply on PACTOR 1 or 2. 73 de Demetre SV1UY Hi Demetre, Happy New

Re: [digitalradio] CQ PACTOR on 14.07750 now

2008-01-01 Thread w6ids
Hi Demetre, Listening but nothing heard yet. Numerous signals abound the frequency but will be monitoring. Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN - Original Message - From: Demetre SV1UY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 10:09 AM Subject:

[digitalradio] Happy New Year: Annual review of message rule

2008-01-01 Thread Andrew O'Brien
As we enter our 9th year, I want to thank all of you for for establishing this group as the world's leading discussion group for amateur radio digital modes. Here are is the annual re-posting of the rules... Digitalradio Message Posting Rules: Messages that promote commercial products are NOT

[digitalradio] CQ PACTOR

2008-01-01 Thread Demetre SV1UY
Calling CQ PACTOR on 7.038 KHZ (center frequency). Just finished a 20 minutes QSO in PACTOR II with OZ1PMX. Despite the QRM and zero signals the link kept going right through the end. 73 de Demetre SV1UY

[digitalradio] PACTOR QSO

2008-01-01 Thread Demetre SV1UY
Hi Ned/EI5DS, Thanks for the PACTOR QSOs today. Even with S0 signals we managed the QSO thanks to PACTOR! Hope to see you tomorrow sometime. I will post to Andy's SKED PAGE and here first and hopefully we can have some more QSOs on 20m. HAPPY NEW YEAR to you and all. 73 de Demetre SV1UY

[digitalradio] Re: Standard sideband for digi modes?

2008-01-01 Thread Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today the filter is often in the software program you are running on your computer and it no longer matters what the tones are. You move the cursor along the waterfall to place your signal or to decode the signal and the

[digitalradio] Re: Standard sideband for digi modes?

2008-01-01 Thread Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Demetre SV1UY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] And don't forget that really it does not matter if you use USB or LSB and you can always flick the REVERSE SWITCH. This is true for all narrow digital modes with the exception of QPSK31. [snip] 73 de Demetre

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Standard sideband for digi modes?

2008-01-01 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
And MFSK, Olivia, and Domino EX. They are (or can be) =500Hz. Leigh/WA5ZNU and you can always flick the REVERSE SWITCH. This is true for all narrow digital modes with the exception of QPSK31. [snip] 73 de Demetre SV1UY I forgot to mention that the REVERSE SWITCH is only present in

[digitalradio] Dead HF Packet Group??

2008-01-01 Thread vk4jrc
I wonder if anyone here knows who runs this group? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hf_packet_radio/ Seems like its a morgue :-) I applied 10 days ago.nothing. While I am at ithow many active on HF Packet here? Have a great New Year! 73s Jack VK4JRC

[digitalradio] Re: Standard sideband for digi modes?

2008-01-01 Thread Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And MFSK, Olivia, and Domino EX. They are (or can be) =500Hz. Leigh/WA5ZNU Thanks for letting us know Leigh. Never worked these modes OM. 73 de Demetre SV1UY

Re: [digitalradio] Dead HF Packet Group??

2008-01-01 Thread Andrew O'Brien
That group has had just three posts in 2007 and none since July, I think it is pushing up daisies. Andy On Jan 1, 2008 4:39 PM, vk4jrc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if anyone here knows who runs this group? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hf_packet_radio/ Seems like its a morgue

Re: [digitalradio] Dead HF Packet Group??

2008-01-01 Thread Ken Burchfield
Hi Jack, I too am waiting on membership . Meanwhile running PSK31 and MT63 and Vhf Packet 73 Ken PacketRadio is Still Alive...Mississippi...145.010...Simplex...1200 Baud - Original Message From: vk4jrc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent:

Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail

2008-01-01 Thread Kevin O'Rorke
I have downloaded pskmail_pup_w-0.5.5.zip It has installed ok and runs ok on Win. It has FLDIGI and FLARQ pre-installed. FLDIGI runs ok, but I cannot at this stage get PTT working I aparently cannot nominate the correct com port. The com port, in Windows, is com 3 (a PCI Com Card). I will

Re: [digitalradio] Humans tolerate robots!

2008-01-01 Thread Jaak Hohensee
Dave! You wrote, that there is nothing wrong with transmitting robots in ham-bands - only verification of frequency. IMO there are minimum 2 more general questions. 1. Ethics. Robot ethics. So the primary question is not verificational. Does the transmitting robot must respect/tolerate

Re: [digitalradio] Humans tolerate robots!

2008-01-01 Thread Howard Brown
LAWS OF RADIO ROBOTICS A robot operator may not QRM a human operator or, through inaction, allow a human operator to be QRMed. A robot operator must obey orders given it

RE: [digitalradio] Humans tolerate robots!

2008-01-01 Thread Dave AA6YQ
Since we're excluding emergency conditions, it would be hard to argue that any of Asimov's laws are applicable unless you have a very broad definition of come to harm. QRM from a PMBO unquestionably diminishes the enjoyment of those operators who've been QRMed, but have they truly come to harm?

Re: [digitalradio] Humans tolerate robots!

2008-01-01 Thread Roger J. Buffington
Howard Brown wrote: LAWS OF RADIO ROBOTICS A robot operator may not QRM a human operator or, through inaction, allow a human operator to be QRMed. A robot operator must obey orders given it by human operators especially orders to stop transmitting until the frequency is clear. A

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2008-01-01 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 01:20 PM 12/31/2007, you wrote: I might be wrong but I think that MixW can parse Pactor1 FEC. de Roger W6VZV Why even try? You have stated a number of times pactor is dead !

[digitalradio] NBEMS available for beta testing

2008-01-01 Thread kh6ty
The NBEMS development team is pleased to announce the availability of a Windows NBEMS software suite for beta testing. The NarrowBand Emergency Messaging System (NBEMS) for Windows is a suite of software programs designed for point-to-point, fast, error-free, emergency messaging up to or over

[digitalradio] Comments on the JT65A and Olivia contests

2008-01-01 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Of the 15 or so logs received so far, the comments appear to be. The bands (40 and 20M) were in very poor conditions Both Olivia and JT65A contests were considered tough. Activity was , according to early reports, higher in the JT65A mode . Several JT65A WSJT users had difficulty handing a

[digitalradio] Fwd: [HF-APRS] HF APRS

2008-01-01 Thread Andrew O'Brien
-- Forwarded message from K3UK's HF-APRS Reflector -- From: g0jxn.jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Apr 10, 2007 1:24 AM Subject: [HF-APRS] HF APRS Cc: HF-APRS Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Guys Now QRV 10.147.600/USB (10.147 for AGW) 29.250/FM (1200bd). 73 Jim, G0JXN

[digitalradio] Frequency accurracy tolerance tnc? main problem for HF-APRS shortwave ?

2008-01-01 Thread Andrew O'Brien
from K3UK's HF-APRS YahooGroup. -- Forwarded message -- From: oe3mzc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Dec 18, 2007 4:22 AM Subject: [HF-APRS] Frequency accurracy tolerance tnc? main problem for HF-APRS shortwave ? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] many tncs for 300baud FSk packet radio used

Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS available for beta testing

2008-01-01 Thread Andrew O'Brien
On Jan 1, 2008 9:23 PM, kh6ty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The NBEMS development team is pleased to announce the availability of a Windows NBEMS software suite for beta testing. The NarrowBand Emergency Messaging System (NBEMS) for Windows is a suite of software programs designed for

Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS available for beta testing

2008-01-01 Thread Andrew O'Brien
7072 (VFO) PSK63 FLARQ beacon every 60 seconds with VBdigi NBECS ANdy K3UK

RE: [digitalradio] NBEMS available for beta testing

2008-01-01 Thread Dave AA6YQ
Nice work, Skip! Congrats!!! 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of kh6ty Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 9:24 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] NBEMS available for beta testing

[digitalradio] Help file error in VBdigi

2008-01-01 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Dave/Skip When I attempt to minimize the help files, I get a run time error (350) -- Andy K3UK www.obriensweb.com (QSL via N2RJ)

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2008-01-01 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 08:34 PM 1/1/2008, you wrote: John, you might ask yourself if your above comment is worthy of your personal level of maturity. Roger please, I'm not the one that can't fine a pactor QSO.

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2008-01-01 Thread Roger J. Buffington
John Becker, WØJAB wrote: At 08:34 PM 1/1/2008, you wrote: John, you might ask yourself if your above comment is worthy of your personal level of maturity. Roger please, I'm not the one that can't fine a pactor QSO. Yes, John, a terrible moral failing, I know... 8-)

Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS available for beta testing

2008-01-01 Thread Kevin O'Rorke
Andrew O'Brien wrote: On Jan 1, 2008 9:23 PM, kh6ty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The NBEMS development team is pleased to announce the availability of a Windows NBEMS software suite for beta testing. I have downloaded NBEMSsetup and unzipped to a temp folder Any attempt

RE: [digitalradio] Dead HF Packet Group??

2008-01-01 Thread Jack Chomley
At 12:20 PM 1/2/2008, you wrote: AX.25 Packet is (IMHO) useless as an HF mode.. ICK!! -- Patricia (Elaine) Gibbons WA6UBE / AAR9JA http://www.qrz.com/wa6ubehttp://www.qrz.com/wa6ube Mmmm, its a good mode :-) HF Packet is my only link to a BBS, over 1300 kilometres away, I can log on fine,

Re: [digitalradio] Frequency accurracy tolerance tnc? main problem for HF-APRS shortwave ?

2008-01-01 Thread Jack Chomley
from K3UK's HF-APRS YahooGroup. -- Forwarded message -- From: oe3mzc mailto:oe3mzc%40oevsv.at[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Dec 18, 2007 4:22 AM Subject: [HF-APRS] Frequency accurracy tolerance tnc? main problem for HF-APRS shortwave ? To: mailto:HF-APRS%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL