[digitalradio] Re: Hey, I'm famous! PSK31 Article on ARRLWeb

2008-03-12 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Yes, well done Frank, Andy K3UK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Sholto Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank, I read your article this morning on the ARRL site. Good job! I especially liked the Bonus Tip - try 30m :) 73, Sholto KE7HPV. Tooner wrote: Hello all, You've

[digitalradio] 10 Tips for the PSK31 Digital Mode

2008-03-12 Thread Mark Thompson
http://www.arrl.org/news/features/2008/03/11/10007?nc=1 10 Tips for the PSK31 Digital Mode By Frank Ravenswood, K2NCC [EMAIL PROTECTED] March 11, 2008 There's more to going over the waterfall than just having a good barrel. An example of a Waterfall display. [photo by Frank Ravenswood,

Re: [digitalradio] 10 Tips for the PSK31 Digital Mode

2008-03-12 Thread Rein Couperus
Enable your RF attenuation and increase the volume. This can help keep a strong signal from wiping out the weaker ones. Attenuation will probably be around 20 dB, but by dropping the noise level, the signal readability may improve. AGC (Automatic Gain Control) does nothing for a weak signal;

[digitalradio] Re: 10 Tips for the PSK31 Digital Mode

2008-03-12 Thread Tooner
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rein Couperus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First thing to do of course is make sure THERE ARE NO STRONGER ONES. This can be done various ways. Typically, I use the variable bandwidth tuning and IF shift to avoid strong signals. But, that's rare to need to do

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 10 Tips for the PSK31 Digital Mode

2008-03-12 Thread kh6ty
There is no difference between an RF gain control and AGC. AGC is just Auotmatic Gain control instead of manual gain control. The only way to copy a weak signal adjacent to a strong one is to prevent the strong signal from affecting the AGC, and the only way to do that is by using a narrrow

RE: [digitalradio] Re: 10 Tips for the PSK31 Digital Mode

2008-03-12 Thread David Little
One more consideration is AGC recovery time. Slow AGC and static crashes are not a good combo in many of the digital modes. No AGC or Fast AGC will make a difference in that situation. This may not apply to PSK-31 as much as more complex digital modes, but a point worth considering. DSP

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 10 Tips for the PSK31 Digital Mode

2008-03-12 Thread kh6ty
Skip - Original Message - From: David Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:25 PM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: 10 Tips for the PSK31 Digital Mode One more consideration is AGC recovery time. Slow AGC and static crashes are

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 10 Tips for the PSK31 Digital Mode

2008-03-12 Thread Jose A. Amador
kh6ty wrote: A dual-loop AGC system may help and some high-end transceivers have this. 73, Skip KH6TY Dual loop AGC is a two sided sword. I have come to find better, and not necessarily easier, to have low noise, low gain stages before the filters that will not overload so easily. The

Re: [digitalradio] 10 Tips for the PSK31 Digital Mode

2008-03-12 Thread Rein Couperus
My comments were meant to be a bit provocative I am reacting to this subject now for the umpteenth time, and still people get the advice to use 2.5 kHz bandfilters on a 31 Hz wide signal. That way you will not get optimum performance from your RX. The ONLY point I wanted to make is that

[digitalradio] Re: 10 Tips for the PSK31 Digital Mode

2008-03-12 Thread Tooner
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rein Couperus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I have visited several hams who could hear MORE than twice the stations after switching from a 2.5 kHz (panoramic) to 250 Hz filter. While on the subject of filters, my current setup allows me to narrow my SSB

Re: [digitalradio] 10 Tips for the PSK31 Digital Mode

2008-03-12 Thread Jose A. Amador
Rein Couperus wrote: My comments were meant to be a bit provocative He! Well, you knew what you were doing The ONLY point I wanted to make is that if you use a proper filter, matched to the mode, you will have a lot more fun and hear/work many more stations. The tradeoff is that

[digitalradio] PropNet and JT65 frequencies

2008-03-12 Thread Sholto Fisher
Hi all, I am in communication with Ev, W2EV with regards to the current PropNet JT65 contention issue and he has asked what my proposal would be regarding frequency coordination. PropNet and JT65 both require international potential so this means they both need to be in the small region of

Re: [digitalradio] PropNet and JT65 frequencies

2008-03-12 Thread W4LDE-Ron
I recommend that they move even higher in the 140-150 segment, PSK runs around 141 to 143, RTTY 142 to 145 so I guess if they want to be nice they could even move higher, what caused them to move down the band? Ron W4LDE Sholto Fisher wrote: Hi all, I am in communication with Ev, W2EV with

Re: [digitalradio] PropNet and JT65 frequencies

2008-03-12 Thread Sholto Fisher
Ron, I asked Ev the same question and his reply was: Hi Sholto, During DXpeditions, it seems that split frequency operators were telling people to listen in the same segment that PropNET was operating within. Trying to be good band co-occupants, we studied DX spots and determined

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 10 Tips for the PSK31 Digital Mode

2008-03-12 Thread Rein Couperus
Frank, 500 Hz is already a nice improvement with respect to 2.5 kHz.. While on the subject of filters, my current setup allows me to narrow my SSB signal down to 500 Hz. Maxed out, the pass band is about 2.7 kHz, (3.6 on CW Wide.) I have no optional filters installed, so I've been thinking

Re: [digitalradio] PropNet and JT65 frequencies

2008-03-12 Thread Rein Couperus
Warning: DXpeditions have a lifetime of average 1 week, they send there 'clients' where they find a quiet spot. The next one will find you. 73, Rein EA/PA0R/P Hi Sholto, During DXpeditions, it seems that split frequency operators were telling people to listen in the same segment

[digitalradio] Does K2 work OK for wider digital modes?

2008-03-12 Thread Rick
With some of the recent comments about filtering and the use of the Elecraft K2, I was wondering if these rigs are OK for the wider digital modes that can exceed 2000 Hz. Also, do you find that most rigs with no TCXO (such as the K2), will work OK for the digital modes, including MFSK16 and

[digitalradio] TCXO for digital modes

2008-03-12 Thread John Bradley
Also, do you find that most rigs with no TCXO (such as the K2), will work OK for the digital modes, including MFSK16 and similar modes that require very close tolerance on frequency stability? Both rigs that I have been using for digital modes, both wide and narrow do not have TCXO installed,

RE: [digitalradio] PropNet and JT65 frequencies

2008-03-12 Thread John Bradley
I asked Ev some of the same questions with the same type of answers. Propnet on 20m is tucked away on 14097, so being a narrow mode a good place for them would be just under 10150. Since they are not involved in QSO's and are simply transmitting beacons that would be a good place for them.

[digitalradio] MEPT_JT sked page now active

2008-03-12 Thread Andrew O'Brien
By request, I have added a MEPT SKED page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked click on MEPT and join the experimenting... with 6hz wide signals ! Andy k3UK -- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From:Joe Taylor, K1JT Subject: New software for

Re: [digitalradio] PropNet and JT65 frequencies

2008-03-12 Thread Joe Veldhuis
That would probably QRM the HF APRS channel, which is around 10.1495 (10.1515 LSB, 2100-2300 Hz AF). Unfortunately, it's almost impossible to do any kind of frequency coordination on 30m. It's been my experience that there isn't one single Hz of bandwidth that is not occupied by CW, gigawatt

Re: [digitalradio] PropNet and JT65 frequencies

2008-03-12 Thread Andrew O'Brien
How about moving the JT65 stations, the freq was simply one suggested by Bonnie, nothing cast in stone. On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Joe Veldhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would probably QRM the HF APRS channel, which is around 10.1495 (10.1515 LSB, 2100-2300 Hz AF).

Re: [digitalradio] PropNet and JT65 frequencies

2008-03-12 Thread Sholto Fisher
Andy, I am ok with this idea too but we have to start somewhere. Ev is being extremely cooperative in looking for a solution/compromise and I have posted a message to the WSJT group asking for their help too. But I am seeing most JT65 and JT2 etc still using the 10.139 frequency so thought

[digitalradio] Re: PropNet and JT65 frequencies

2008-03-12 Thread Andrew O'Brien
OK Sholto,. Ev is always very cooperative. Andy. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Sholto Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy, I am ok with this idea too but we have to start somewhere. Ev is being extremely cooperative in looking for a solution/compromise and I have posted a