Re: Syslog/Operlog Read Access

2012-05-18 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
John Gilmore wrote: Is it a consensus best practice to restrict read access of syslog/operlog data to those people with a need-to-know? It is not, not least because the question itself is not well-formed. Need-to-know is a useful notion for highly sensitive information that lends itself to

Re: Syslog/Operlog Read Access

2012-05-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 17 May 2012 09:07:26 -0400, Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.com wrote: Is it a consensus best practice to restrict read access of syslog/operlog data to those people with a need-to-know, or is it a UACC of READ appropriate? I think this varies on a shop by shop basis. In all shops

Re: Syslog/Operlog Read Access

2012-05-17 Thread Hal Merritt
I believe the general case is always need-to-know. That is, there needs to be some business/technical justification for access. The rational is to deny information to a potential intruder. I read that most intruders are those that already have some level of access to the system.

Re: Syslog/Operlog Read Access

2012-05-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fb4f80e.30...@custserv.com, on 05/17/2012 at 09:07 AM, Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.com said: Is it a consensus best practice to restrict read access of syslog/operlog data to those people with a need-to-know, Pretty much anybody running jobs has a need to know what their jobs put in

Re: Syslog/Operlog Read Access

2012-05-17 Thread John Gilmore
| Is it a consensus best practice to restrict read access of | syslog/operlog data to those people with a need-to-know? It is not, not least because the question itself is not well-formed. Need-to-know is a useful notion for highly sensitive information that lends itself to misuse in the wrong

Re: Syslog missing

2012-05-16 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-05-15 20:33, Mark Zelden pisze: What's wrong??? User error? :-)Did you change the SYSID or anything like that? When you use the LOG command do you see an ISPF short message error? Try SYSID ? and see what it says. Then SYSID with no operands. 1. SYSID SYSID *was

Re: Syslog missing

2012-05-16 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
R. Skorupka wrote: I just noticed that syslog is dead. Hmm, I have gone with this thread to see, but, Ok, can you perhaps explore these other options? (if already discussed, I may have missed it, sorry) : Did you checked your ISFPRMxx member? Or drop those exits you mentioned earlier. Is it

Re: Syslog missing (solution???)

2012-05-16 Thread R.S.
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA39170 It's quite fresh. BTW: very interesting problem for lawyers: I changed sysid to meet SCRT requirements, otherwise SCRT cannot prepare correct report for the LPAR running this system. I can say I cannot change sysid due to error in IBM

Re: Syslog missing (solution???)

2012-05-16 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
R.Skorupka wrote: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA39170 Interesting that SDSF suffers from JES2 handling of $QSE control block. Hmmm... It's quite fresh. Absolutely! Despite its age, it is now 'CLOSED PER'. ... and you have to carry out the local fix, which you already

Re: Syslog missing (now: SCRT)

2012-05-16 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-05-16 12:42, Elardus Engelbrecht pisze: [...] I changed sysid to meet SCRT requirements, otherwise SCRT cannot prepare correct report for the LPAR running this system. Yuck! Could you be kind to elaborate on this required change? I'm also using this SCRT toy every month. SCRT

Re: Syslog missing (now: SCRT)

2012-05-16 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
R Skorupka wrote: SCRT does require all systems to have uniques SYSID. This requirement is described in SCRT manual. Oh yes, I now rereaded that part. Thanks for the reminder. SCRT is REALLY BAD product, I know several cases where it gives false results even if you fulfill all the

Re: Syslog missing (now: SCRT)

2012-05-16 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-05-16 13:42, Elardus Engelbrecht pisze: [1] - You just can't go on a C ALL '= ' '=*NONE' spree without breaking something ... But you can split the job stream. I moved DD * content to separate members and DO NOT change them. Also the JCL itself is (almost) not changed. The only

Re: Syslog missing (now: SCRT)

2012-05-16 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
R Skorupka wrote: [1] - You just can't go on a C ALL '= ' '=*NONE' spree without breaking something ... But you can split the job stream. I moved DD * content to separate members and DO NOT change them. Also the JCL itself is (almost) not changed. The only change is to replace object code.

Re: Syslog missing

2012-05-16 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 16 May 2012 11:14:36 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: W dniu 2012-05-15 20:33, Mark Zelden pisze: What's wrong??? User error? :-)Did you change the SYSID or anything like that? When you use the LOG command do you see an ISPF short message error? Try SYSID ?

Re: Syslog missing (now: SCRT)

2012-05-16 Thread Hal Merritt
@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 6:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Syslog missing (now: SCRT) W dniu 2012-05-16 13:42, Elardus Engelbrecht pisze: [1] - You just can't go on a C ALL '= ' '=*NONE' spree without breaking something ... But you can split

Re: Syslog missing (solution???)

2012-05-16 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 16 May 2012 12:19:55 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA39170 It's quite fresh. MAS panel shows: OLD1 DRAINED,P NEW1 ACTIVE (system is not sysplexed, PLEXCFG=MONOPLEX) Based on you mas display, that sounds like a

Re: Syslog missing

2012-05-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fb286ac.8030...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 05/15/2012 at 06:39 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said: I just noticed that syslog is dead. Maybe, and maybe not. Any clue? Yes; query the status of HAEDCPY, OPERLOG and SYSLOG. Then examine your SDSF, taking the query results into

Re: Syslog missing

2012-05-15 Thread Williamson, James R
Do you have the HLQ.HASPINDX dataset that SDSF needs to access SYSLOG? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Syslog missing The following scenario:

Re: Syslog missing

2012-05-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 15 May 2012 18:39:08 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: The following scenario: z/OS 1.13 during ServerPac installation process. The system is IPLed for second or third time, almost nothing is customized. I just noticed that syslog is dead. Example: I enter SDSF, LOG and

Re: Syslog missing

2012-05-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 15 May 2012 11:45:28 -0500, Williamson, James R james.r.william...@uscg.mil wrote: Do you have the HLQ.HASPINDX dataset that SDSF needs to access SYSLOG? hlq.HASPINDX is no longer used / required as of z/OS 1.11. Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS

Re: Syslog missing

2012-05-15 Thread Doug Fuerst
-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Syslog missing Do you have the HLQ.HASPINDX dataset that SDSF needs to access SYSLOG? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject

Re: Syslog missing

2012-05-15 Thread Williamson, James R
Thanks. I just went from 1.10 to 1.12 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Syslog missing On Tue, 15 May 2012 11:45:28 -0500

Re: Syslog missing

2012-05-15 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-05-15 18:47, Mark Zelden pisze: On Tue, 15 May 2012 18:39:08 +0200, R.S.r.skoru...@.com.pl wrote: The following scenario: z/OS 1.13 during ServerPac installation process. The system is IPLed for second or third time, almost nothing is customized. I just noticed that syslog is

Re: Syslog missing

2012-05-15 Thread Jakubek, Jan
What about WRITELOG START...? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Syslog missing

2012-05-15 Thread Doug Fuerst
if you do a 'pre syslog' from SDSF, and then do an 'ST', do you have a SYSLOG STC in the system? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Syslog missing

Re: Syslog missing

2012-05-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 15 May 2012 19:02:57 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: Don't know why it broke, but have you tried this? V SYSLOG,HARDCPY Yes, no effect Try W START (WRITELOG START) Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS

Re: Syslog missing

2012-05-15 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-05-15 19:25, Mark Zelden pisze: On Tue, 15 May 2012 19:02:57 +0200, R.S.r.skoru...@.com.pl wrote: Don't know why it broke, but have you tried this? V SYSLOG,HARDCPY Yes, no effect Try W START (WRITELOG START) I tried, no effect. I just re-ipled system, with no

Re: Syslog missing

2012-05-15 Thread Jousma, David
f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Syslog missing W dniu 2012-05-15 19:25, Mark Zelden pisze: On Tue, 15 May 2012 19:02:57 +0200

Re: Syslog missing

2012-05-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 15 May 2012 20:20:28 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: W dniu 2012-05-15 19:25, Mark Zelden pisze: On Tue, 15 May 2012 19:02:57 +0200, R.S.r.skoru...@.com.pl wrote: Don't know why it broke, but have you tried this? V SYSLOG,HARDCPY Yes, no effect Try W

Re: Syslog missing

2012-05-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 15 May 2012 18:31:00 +, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote: Try LOG S?Maybe your are defaulting to OPERLOG which you appear to have turned off. Right... didn't think about that. The IBM default is operlog if operlog is active, but the ISPF profile could be set to

Re: Syslog missing

2012-05-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 15 May 2012 13:41:11 -0500, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2012 18:31:00 +, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote: Try LOG S?Maybe your are defaulting to OPERLOG which you appear to have turned off. Right... didn't think about that. The IBM default is

Re: Syslog problem

2011-06-27 Thread Staller, Allan
A V SYSLOG,HARDCOPY,ROUTE=ALL command should do the trick (or at least give you a message for problem determination). Check the MVS System Commands Manual SA22-7627-21 available here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2G1A0/CCON

Re: Syslog problem

2011-06-27 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
BUFFER LIMIT: 1000 No change. Thank You, Dave O'Brien NIH Contractor From: Staller, Allan [allan.stal...@kbmg.com] Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 10:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Syslog problem A V SYSLOG,HARDCOPY,ROUTE

Re: Syslog problem

2011-06-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 6/27/2011 7:04 AM, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote: After an IPL this weekend one of our systems has no data in syslog. We user IOF and if we look at SYSLOG it shows a MSGFILE and a LOG file but no data file. Did you try to start the log via the WRITELOG START command? -- Edward E

Re: Syslog problem

2011-06-27 Thread John McKown
V HARDCPY,SYSLOG I think. -- John McKown Maranatha! Sent from my Vibrant Android phone. On Jun 27, 2011 9:05 AM, Oapos;Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] obrie...@mail.nih.gov wrote: A colleague asked me to post the following: After an IPL this weekend one of our systems has no data in syslog.

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-14 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hi Ted, how often? - sems like every other week. how much can you store? - at least one years data per system, in HSM ML2. keeps it simple, no need to be concerned with sopme other archive system. On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:36:13 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: Not sure I would want

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-11 Thread Barry Merrill
Dunno what zip you guys use, but I zipped a 171 Million byte file into 14 Million bytes, for a 12.2 compression ratio, which is what I would expect for pure text with lots of blanks. I typically see 6 or 8 to one for more complex data like SMF. Barry Merrill

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-10 Thread Bruce Hewson
Not sure I would want SYSLOG to be trapped into an output archive. We use SDSF to grab the previous day's log, midnight to midnight, and then purge older data. The data gets stored into a system/datetime stamped dataset. Making it so very useful for data miningjust using SRCHFOR across a

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-10 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Probably 6-8 years ago, I contributed a system called SOUT to the CBT tape. I was trying to find it on the CBT site, but I'm not having much luck. There used to be a link that listed all the files - I can't find it for some reason. I don't know if its not there, or more likely I'm just not

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-10 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:37:20 -0500, Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com wrote: Probably 6-8 years ago, I contributed a system called SOUT to the CBT tape. I was trying to find it on the CBT site, but I'm not having much luck. There used to be a link that listed all the files - I can't find it

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-10 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Not sure I would want SYSLOG to be trapped into an output archive. Not sure it's trapped. Indexing by date is (usually) easier. I've done it three ways: 1. Date stamped datasets -- preferable to: 2. GDGs and, 3. Output archivers I prefer #3, especially with indexing and (in most) compression.

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-10 Thread Ed Gould
Ted, Just a quick question. Since syslog is vbm the amount of compression would seem to me so small (considering the content). How much compassion was seen? Ed Sent from my iPad On Jun 10, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: Not sure I would want SYSLOG to be trapped

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-10 Thread Mike Schwab
Since the log is generally full of text, I would expect a 2:1 ratio like on Open systems. On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote: Ted, Just a quick question. Since syslog is vbm the amount of compression would seem to me so small (considering the content). How much

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-10 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Thanks Mark. After looking at the links you posted, one of them showed my name. I never thought of searching on my name. That brings up 3 entries. When I searched for SOUT, or SYSOUT, I got hundreds of entries just using Google to search the CBT site. I finally did notice that if I click on

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-10 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Since the log is generally full of text, I would expect a 2:1 ratio like on Open systems. 2.6 - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-09 Thread Jousma, David
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SYSLOG saving So more of these posts have made me think. There is no reason that some of those other shops I mentioned that had more general products (as opposed to some that specifically manage syslog or have components

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-09 Thread Shaffer, Terri E
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SYSLOG saving So more of these posts have made me think. There is no reason that some of those other shops I mentioned that had more general

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-09 Thread Skip Robinson
Subject:Re: SYSLOG saving Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu I've worked many places over the years and have seen it all(SAR, $AVRS, etc). Honestly, keeping a daily syslog offload in a disk based GDG, that gets migrated to tape after 5 days still seems

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-09 Thread Ed Gould
Sam: We had multiple reasons why we didn#39;t let syslog out of the systems group. It might have been for several reasons (take your pick) 1. The production people couldn#39;t be trusted with this. 2. We needed access at times when the package was not available(systems down time) 3. Auditors

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-08 Thread Jousma, David
We offload to a daily disk GDG, that migrates to tape. That way multiple people can do syslog archaeology and not wait on each other. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris,

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 08:47:38 -0500, Donald Likens dlik...@infosecinc.com wrote: In my previous shop we used a product called $AVRS to retain SYSLOG for an extended period of time. I assume other shops do the same. I need it in a readable format with as much information as possible. If you save

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-08 Thread Scott Ford
I do it the old fashioned way: 1. Create GDGs 2. Issue a ' Don: I do it the old fashioned way: 1. Create GDGs 2. Issue a 'WRITELOG'  and then a proc like this //HPYCPY  PROC //IEFPROC EXEC PGM=IASXWR00,PARM='PL',REGION=200K //* //*   WTR TO SCOOP UP SYSLOGS //* //IEFRDER DD

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-08 Thread Knutson, Sam
-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SYSLOG saving On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 08:47:38 -0500, Donald Likens dlik...@infosecinc.com wrote: In my previous shop we used a product called $AVRS to retain SYSLOG for an extended

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 13:43:32 -0400, Knutson, Sam sknut...@geico.com wrote: Hi Mark, My guess would be opposite that almost everyone has some output management tool they leverage for SYSLOG archiving but I could be completely wrong. Hi Sam, Survey time? :-) Based on my experience at well over

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-08 Thread Scott Ford
  From: Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wed, June 8, 2011 3:35:57 PM Subject: Re: SYSLOG saving On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 13:43:32 -0400, Knutson, Sam sknut...@geico.com wrote: Hi Mark, My guess would be opposite that almost everyone has

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-08 Thread Linda Mooney
Years ago, we brought in SAR (now CA-View) to hold customer batch report output for viewing .  So, we issue the W L command every midnight by auto command  and have View pick it up. We keep a little over 3 years of SYSLOG  available, most of that on (virtual) tape.  It has worked very well for

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-08 Thread Scott Ford
Subject: Re: SYSLOG saving Years ago, we brought in SAR (now CA-View) to hold customer batch report output for viewing .  So, we issue the W L command every midnight by auto command  and have View pick it up. We keep a little over 3 years of SYSLOG  available, most of that on (virtual) tape

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-08 Thread Donnelly, John P
@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SYSLOG saving Years ago, we brought in SAR (now CA-View) to hold customer batch report output for viewing .  So, we issue the W L command every midnight by auto command  and have View pick it up. We keep a little over 3 years of SYSLOG  available, most of that on (virtual) tape

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-08 Thread Greg Shirey
We issue command W I at midnight and sweep the SYSLOG into Infopac (ViewDirect). We keep them for 90 days. Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:36 PM Survey time? :-)

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-08 Thread Mark Zelden
So more of these posts have made me think. There is no reason that some of those other shops I mentioned that had more general products (as opposed to some that specifically manage syslog or have components that do) couldn't have used those products to store syslog. And maybe more of those shops

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-08 Thread Linda Mooney
Message - From: Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 2:26:56 PM Subject: Re: SYSLOG saving So more of these posts have made me think.  There is no reason that some of those other shops I mentioned that had more general products (as opposed to some

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-08 Thread Gibney, Dave
Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SYSLOG saving So more

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-08 Thread Scott Ford
that was lacking or not even there yet, that of course has been a few years.    Scott J Ford   From: Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wed, June 8, 2011 5:26:56 PM Subject: Re: SYSLOG saving So more of these posts have made me think

Re: SYSLOG saving

2011-06-08 Thread Ed Finnell
I used to enjoy the exposure to HESC, but IBM dropped it soon after OCO. So the committees started looking at packaged software for Windows and *nix that 'any third grader could maintain'. Lots of Boot Hill stories abound... In a message dated 6/8/2011 9:30:14 P.M. Central Daylight

Re: SYSLOG message suppression

2009-09-18 Thread Edward Jaffe
John Norgauer wrote: What is needed in the MPFLSTXX parm to suppress messages going to SYSLOG? You can omit some of the routing codes that go to the hardcopy set and assign those route codes to messages you want suppressed. For example: |HARDCOPY DEVNUM(SYSLOG) |

Re: SYSLOG message suppression

2009-09-18 Thread Zahir Hemini
Turn on the no hardcopy bit in the message flagbytes 2 OICTXTRFB2,CTXTRNHC FORCE NO HARDCOPY This will display it on the console but not on syslog or OICTXTRFB2,CTXTRDTMDELETE THE MESSAGE This will not display on the console or on syslog On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:06

Re: SYSLOG message suppression

2009-09-18 Thread Bob Rutledge
John Norgauer wrote: ... What is needed in the MPFLSTXX parm to suppress messages going to SYSLOG? ... I do not recommend this on anything but a standalone sandbox system; it falls under the category of tampering with evidence and an auditor would frown loudly. That said, the literal answer

Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

2009-06-02 Thread Ron Wells
/01/2009 04:18 PM Subject: Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu They are described in the introduction part of any volume of System Messages under Messages sent to hardcopy...: First 28 route codes. Bob Ron Wells wrote: Guess I was too quick

Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

2009-06-02 Thread Ken Porowski
but how does that translate to the msg?? N 0004000 XA91 09153 10:46:14.89 JOB13668 /\ how is this related to the code ?? or N 280 XA91 09153 10:46:15.16 STC06759 /\ From: Bob Rutledge deerh...@ix.netcom.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 06/01/2009 04:18 PM Subject: Re

Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

2009-06-02 Thread Ron Wells
Ken Thanks... a kick in the head but I got it ... From: Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 06/02/2009 11:03 AM Subject: Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu It's a bitmap of routing codes 0004000 is

Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

2009-06-01 Thread Ron Wells
Trying to interp routing code(s) on left side of syslog. Is there a break down of the codes that are displayed and meanings?? example below N C00 XA91 09152 14:33:02.95 0281 $HASP309 INIT 15 INACT /\

Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

2009-06-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
Yes there is information. In section 4.1.15 SYSLOG records in the manual: z/OS V1R9.0 MVS Planning: Operations Document Number: SA22-7601-08 should help you here. Lizette Trying to interp routing code(s) on left side of syslog. Is there a break down of the codes that are displayed and

Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

2009-06-01 Thread Ron Wells
thanks hit nail on the head... From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 06/01/2009 02:46 PM Subject: Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Yes there is information. In section 4.1.15 SYSLOG records

Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

2009-06-01 Thread Ron Wells
Guess I was too quick... The beginning of the SYSLOG has NR000 XA91 09152 15:10:44.93 STC06632 0080 IST097I VARY ACCEPTED /\ /\ This is the Prefix it talks about /\/\/\/\/\/\/\ these are the codes from what I am reading But what is the 7digits ? 000filer ??

Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

2009-06-01 Thread Field, Alan C.
See the IHAHCLOG macro description of the format. - Original Message - From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon Jun 01 15:45:44 2009 Subject: Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes Guess I was too quick... The beginning

Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

2009-06-01 Thread Ron Wells
see it say descriptor codes-7char guess I'm missing something..where are the codes ? From: Field, Alan C. alan.c.fi...@supervalu.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 06/01/2009 03:57 PM Subject: Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu See

Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

2009-06-01 Thread Bob Rutledge
They are described in the introduction part of any volume of System Messages under Messages sent to hardcopy...: First 28 route codes. Bob Ron Wells wrote: Guess I was too quick... The beginning of the SYSLOG has NR000 XA91 09152 15:10:44.93 STC06632 0080 IST097I VARY

Re: SYSLOG

2008-10-27 Thread Salah Balboul
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Re: SYSLOG

2008-10-27 Thread Salah Balboul
Looked at all consoles and did not see any high NBUF. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: SYSLOG

2008-10-27 Thread W. Kevin Kelley
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:39:48 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A console that was not rolling? Mark, That advice applied prior to the Console Restructure. After z/OS R4.2, we moved the point where SYSLOG/OPERLOG is written -- it is now written immediately after the SSI, prior to

Re: SYSLOG

2008-10-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:47:57 -0500, W. Kevin Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:39:48 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A console that was not rolling? Mark, That advice applied prior to the Console Restructure. After z/OS R4.2, we moved the point where

Re: SYSLOG

2008-10-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:01:16 -0500, Salah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, wondering if anyone had run into this before. At 0600 we issue 'W H' command which writes the syslog to class H and start a new syslog. All is well so far. By 0800 the syslog stopped updating as seen in SDSF,

Re: SYSLOG

2008-10-26 Thread Rick Fochtman
How large is your SYSLOG index for SDSF ?? Salah wrote: Hello list, wondering if anyone had run into this before. At 0600 we issue 'W H' command which writes the syslog to class H and start a new syslog. All is well so far. By 0800 the syslog stopped updating as seen in SDSF, although the

Re: SYSLOG problem

2008-04-02 Thread Skip Robinson
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Re: SYSLOG problem

2008-04-01 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
You don't need to stop the syslog (WRITELOG CLOSE). A WRITELOG command w/o operands closes and frees the current syslog and immediately opens a new one. Your process can then archive that just closed syslog file. -- Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE

Re: SYSLOG problem

2008-04-01 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulrich Krueger Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 12:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSLOG problem WRITELOG START perhaps??? See http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2G133/4.58.1?S HELF=EZ2CMZ34DT=20031016134357 What command

Re: SYSLOG problem

2008-04-01 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 6:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSLOG problem You don't need to stop the syslog (WRITELOG CLOSE). A WRITELOG command w/o operands closes and frees the current syslog and immediately opens a new one. Your process can then archive that just closed syslog file

Re: SYSLOG problem

2008-03-31 Thread Edward Jaffe
Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM wrote: Hi Everyone, We have an issue with our syslog. The command was issued to stop the syslog to write it out. Normally a new syslog is created. Unfortunately this time that didn't happen. We are now using the logger data set on this partition, just the hard

Re: SYSLOG problem

2008-03-31 Thread Richard Peurifoy
Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM wrote: Hi Everyone, We have an issue with our syslog. The command was issued to stop the syslog to write it out. Normally a new syslog is created. Unfortunately this time that didn't happen. We are now using the logger data set on this partition, just the hard

Re: SYSLOG problem

2008-03-31 Thread Dennis Trojak
W START possibly. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SYSLOG problem Hi Everyone, We have an issue with our syslog. The command

Re: SYSLOG problem

2008-03-31 Thread Ulrich Krueger
WRITELOG START perhaps??? See http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2G133/4.58.1?S HELF=EZ2CMZ34DT=20031016134357 What command was issued to cause the problem in the first place? What console messages did you get? Regards, Ulrich Krueger -Original Message- From:

Re: SYSLOG problem

2008-03-31 Thread Lizette Koehler
Mary, Look at the WRITELOG command in MVS to force the syslog to spool and start another one. To have the hardcopy message set recorded on the system log, enter: V SYSLOG,HARDCPY This should be all you need. Lizette Hi Everyone, We have an issue with our syslog. The command was

Re: SYSLOG problem

2008-03-31 Thread Jerry Fuchs
Hey Mary, Try command 'W START' Jerry Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 03/31/2008 01:04 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject SYSLOG problem

Re: SYSLOG problem

2008-03-31 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:20:32 -0500, Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, We have an issue with our syslog. The command was issued to stop the syslog to write it out. Normally a new syslog is created. Unfortunately this time that didn't happen. We are now using the

Re: SYSLOG problem

2008-03-31 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
Thanks for the help, we got it. Mary -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SYSLOG problem Hi Everyone, We have an issue with our

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Time Stamps

2008-02-20 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ink.net... I have a fairly active system. Stuff going on all the time. But when I look in my SYSLOG/OPERLOG I notice that I do not see a time stamp for several minutes. If this system was not active, I could understand

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Time Stamps

2008-02-20 Thread W. Kevin Kelley
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:52:09 +0100, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is something else you might look into: I think I remember that messages for the operator console(s) appear in syslog and are timestamped at the moment the messages is displayed on the console. So if the

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Time Stamps

2008-02-20 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
W. Kevin Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:52:09 +0100, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is something else you might look into: I think I remember that messages for the operator console(s) appear in syslog and are

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Time Stamps

2008-02-19 Thread Looper, Brent E
Lizette, You could start an automatic command to do a D T (Display Time) every 30 seconds for a day or two. That would let you know whether you have a problem without too much additional log output. Brent Looper UAMS I have a fairly active system. Stuff going on all the time. But

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Time Stamps

2008-02-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:39:03 -0500, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a fairly active system. Stuff going on all the time. But when I look in my SYSLOG/OPERLOG I notice that I do not see a time stamp for several minutes. If this system was not active, I could understand the gaps.

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