[videoblogging] Introduction SXSW query

2007-03-07 Thread Tamara Krinsky
Hi all: 

I've been lurking on this list for almost two years, occasionally 
posting a comment when relevant, but mainly just coasting along for 
hte ride. I thought it was finally time to go public...I'm going to 
SXSW for the film/interactive conference at the end of this week and 
wanted to find out if anyone else was heading down to Austin...then I 
realized I've never actually said an official hello to the group! 

I first became acquainted with this list when Current TV was doing 
it's talent search, back in the days when it was inDtv. Someone 
turned me on to this group, and it's been amazing reading everyone's 
posts. Thanks to all for sharing their knowledge and insights. I have 
learned a lot from reading everyone's comments as I've come to play 
more and more in the new media universe. 

A little about me...I'm an actress  journalist. I've spent the past 
several years programming for film festivals, and thus have spent far 
too many hours in a small dark room watching many, many movies. In 
May 2006 I started working for a new site called iklipz.com, which is 
a video-sharing site specifically aimed at independent filmmakers. 
Given the type of site I work for, the recent YouTube/MySpace thread 
was especially interesting.  

I've been producing  working as a correspondent for iklipz,  a lot 
of my segments can be found at www.iklipz.com/TamaraKrinsky. I don't 
consider this video blogging, as the segments are very Entertainment 
Tonight-esque, but they're fun and I've gotten to talk to some great 
talent, so check them out if you are an indie film fan.  The benefit 
of working for the site is that it has given me the opportunity to 
learn a lot and finally acquire some new media making tools, which I 
hope to put to use videoblogging when I return from SXSW. 

If you're going to be down in Austin, please give a shout. I've never 
been to this particular festival and would love to hear more about 
navigating it from anyone who's been. 

Cheers,
Tamara Krinsky




Re: [videoblogging] Re: help watching on tv

2007-03-07 Thread Rupert
That's genius, David.  So the fact is, you CAN just use an ordinary A/ 
V cable, but Apple have switched the cables so that you have to plug  
the red cable into the video socket and the yellow into the audio.   
Just so they can sell overpriced proprietary accessories that do  
exactly the same thing, but with the cables switched.  That's a cheap  
trick.  I like Apple less and less every time I read about them, and  
I used to be a huge fan.

Rupert

On 7 Mar 2007, at 01:53, David Howell wrote:

Richard,

Have you tried this?

http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/11/18/video-ipod.html

That works for me with my iPod on the TV.

David
http://www.davidhowellstudios.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Maureen and I always watch vlogs on TV using the iPod.
 
  My iPod quite working ... very sad ... tried the reboot thing,
that's worked
  before a zillion times
 
  I thought I'd connect the mac book pro using audio and s-video,  
but no
  s-video on mac book pro.
 
  Maybe it would work with AV cable for iPod by sticking it in the ear
phone
  jack ... nope
 
  Maybe I could burn stuff to dvd and watch ... not too good of an  
option
 
  Ok, I admit it, actually tonight I was going to watch an episode of
lost I
  got from iPod store in .m4v
 
  I can't believe that would work in my dvd player.
 
  Quicktime pro didn't seem to want to convert that file into anything
else,
  maybe copy protection, I don't know.
 
  ... any ideas apprecaited ... richard
 
  --
  Richard
  http://richardhhall.org
  Shows
  http://richardshow.org
  http://inspiredhealing.tv
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Good - Ok, Bad Ugly - not Ok! or How to: Control info on the Net

2007-03-07 Thread Rupert
Liberté, égalité, fraternité.  Whatever.
It's depressing.  Even more depressing that a country as big and rich  
and 'free' as France can take such a huge step towards state control  
without anybody hearing about it.  You will be all right in the US.   
Your current administration would have loved to pass a law like this  
if it could have, of course.  But it can't without a massive debate  
about the first amendment.  We're not lucky enough in the UK to have  
a written constitution, or anything concrete that protects freedom of  
speech or of the press.  It's all about public approval and press  
power here.  Using 'happy slapping' as justification like the French  
did, is a typically cynical and depressingly successful way to bring  
the public with you on bad law.  Hopefully, the press here would  
fight something like this.  But you never know.  We've had some bad,  
bad laws passed here since 9/11 with barely a murmur from the press.   
Like it being a criminal offence to express any protest within 1 mile  
radius of the houses of parliament, effectively killing  
demonstrations and dissent in the center of London.  Many people have  
been convicted, just for exercising their democratic right to free  
speech.  So, you never know.  Got to use our voices and the internet  
if it starts to happen here.  Pity the French didn't do the same.

On 7 Mar 2007, at 02:43, bordercollieaustralianshepherd wrote:

Trying to trick it by replying to my own post

France bans citizen journalists from reporting violence

I know this is across the pond. It still troubles me.

http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/03/06/franceban/index.php
The French Constitutional Council has approved a law that
criminalizes the filming or broadcasting of acts of violence by people
other than professional journalists. The law could lead to the
imprisonment of eyewitnesses who film acts of police violence, or
operators of Web sites publishing the images, one French civil
liberties group warned on Tuesday.snip






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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Good - Ok, Bad Ugly - not Ok! or How to: Control info on the Net

2007-03-07 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Tagged for the Vlog Press Kit.

Dang.

Jan

On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Liberté, égalité, fraternité.  Whatever.
 It's depressing.  Even more depressing that a country as big and rich
 and 'free' as France can take such a huge step towards state control
 without anybody hearing about it.  You will be all right in the US.
 Your current administration would have loved to pass a law like this
 if it could have, of course.  But it can't without a massive debate
 about the first amendment.  We're not lucky enough in the UK to have
 a written constitution, or anything concrete that protects freedom of
 speech or of the press.  It's all about public approval and press
 power here.  Using 'happy slapping' as justification like the French
 did, is a typically cynical and depressingly successful way to bring
 the public with you on bad law.  Hopefully, the press here would
 fight something like this.  But you never know.  We've had some bad,
 bad laws passed here since 9/11 with barely a murmur from the press.
 Like it being a criminal offence to express any protest within 1 mile
 radius of the houses of parliament, effectively killing
 demonstrations and dissent in the center of London.  Many people have
 been convicted, just for exercising their democratic right to free
 speech.  So, you never know.  Got to use our voices and the internet
 if it starts to happen here.  Pity the French didn't do the same.

 On 7 Mar 2007, at 02:43, bordercollieaustralianshepherd wrote:

 Trying to trick it by replying to my own post

 France bans citizen journalists from reporting violence

 I know this is across the pond. It still troubles me.

 http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/03/06/franceban/index.php
 The French Constitutional Council has approved a law that
 criminalizes the filming or broadcasting of acts of violence by people
 other than professional journalists. The law could lead to the
 imprisonment of eyewitnesses who film acts of police violence, or
 operators of Web sites publishing the images, one French civil
 liberties group warned on Tuesday.snip






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Re: [videoblogging] Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news

2007-03-07 Thread Rupert
Yeah, and I just saw you introducing yesterday's The Show, Jan.  Nice!
Worst spelling bee ever.  But you *are* quite flexible.
http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/archives/2007/03/030507.html


On 6 Mar 2007, at 13:30, Jan McLaughlin wrote:

http://www.postbulletin.com/newsmanager/templates/localnews_story.asp? 
a=286422z=23

Just found this piece.

Jan

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Re: [videoblogging] help watching on tv

2007-03-07 Thread Richard (Show) Hall
steve .. I was looking for something that inputs to s-video and it doesn't
look like this does, but I may not understand it.

... richard

On 3/6/07, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I just bought an HDMI DVI Cable for $5.03.

 http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2007/03/steve-tv-ii-hdmi-dvi-
 cable.html

 or

 http://tinyurl.com/ytxvn4


 On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:32 PM, Richard (Show) Hall wrote:

  Maureen and I always watch vlogs on TV using the iPod.
 
  My iPod quite working ... very sad ... tried the reboot thing,
  that's worked
  before a zillion times
 
  I thought I'd connect the mac book pro using audio and s-video, but no
  s-video on mac book pro.
 
  Maybe it would work with AV cable for iPod by sticking it in the
  ear phone
  jack ... nope
 
  Maybe I could burn stuff to dvd and watch ... not too good of an
  option
 
  Ok, I admit it, actually tonight I was going to watch an episode of
  lost I
  got from iPod store in .m4v
 
  I can't believe that would work in my dvd player.
 
  Quicktime pro didn't seem to want to convert that file into
  anything else,
  maybe copy protection, I don't know.
 
  ... any ideas apprecaited ... richard
 
  --
  Richard
  http://richardhhall.org
  Shows
  http://richardshow.org
  http://inspiredhealing.tv
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: help watching on tv

2007-03-07 Thread Richard (Show) Hall
David,

The deal is that my iPod is broken.

I used to watch from the iPod all the time.

I want to know how to watch form the mac directly to TV.

Anyway, Bill's thing appears that it will work.

And I appreciate your response anyway :)

... Richard

On 3/6/07, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Richard,

 Have you tried this?

 http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/11/18/video-ipod.html

 That works for me with my iPod on the TV.

 David
 http://www.davidhowellstudios.com

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Richard (Show) Hall

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Maureen and I always watch vlogs on TV using the iPod.
 
  My iPod quite working ... very sad ... tried the reboot thing,
 that's worked
  before a zillion times
 
  I thought I'd connect the mac book pro using audio and s-video, but no
  s-video on mac book pro.
 
  Maybe it would work with AV cable for iPod by sticking it in the ear
 phone
  jack ... nope
 
  Maybe I could burn stuff to dvd and watch ... not too good of an option
 
  Ok, I admit it, actually tonight I was going to watch an episode of
 lost I
  got from iPod store in .m4v
 
  I can't believe that would work in my dvd player.
 
  Quicktime pro didn't seem to want to convert that file into anything
 else,
  maybe copy protection, I don't know.
 
  ... any ideas apprecaited ... richard
 
  --
  Richard
  http://richardhhall.org
  Shows
  http://richardshow.org
  http://inspiredhealing.tv
 
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 

  




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Shows
http://richardshow.org
http://inspiredhealing.tv


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: help watching on tv

2007-03-07 Thread Richard (Show) Hall
thanks Bill ... perfect ... Richard

On 3/6/07, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Richard (Show) Hall
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Maureen and I always watch vlogs on TV using the iPod.
 
  My iPod quite working ... very sad ... tried the reboot thing,
 that's worked
  before a zillion times
 
  I thought I'd connect the mac book pro using audio and s-video, but no
  s-video on mac book pro.
 
 
  --
  Richard
  http://richardhhall.org
  Shows
  http://richardshow.org
  http://inspiredhealing.tv

 
 http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/StoreReentry.wo?productLearnMore=M9267G%2FA
 

 The Apple DVI to Video Adapter was designed to allow Mac Pro (with
 ATI X1900 XT), MacBook Pro, Mac mini and Power Mac G5 users to connect
 the DVI port to an S-video or Composite video device such as TVs, VCRs
 or overhead projectors with S-Video or RCA (Composite) connectors. The
 Apple DVI to Video Adapter is designed to work with the DVI port on
 the Mac Pro (with ATI X1900 XT) MacBook Pro, Mac mini and Power Mac G5
 systems only.

 Use a separate DVI to VGA Adapter for VGA video out for Mac Pro,
 MacBook Pro, Mac mini or Power Mac G5 (included with all Mac Pro,
 MacBook Pro, Mac mini or Power Mac G5 systems or available for order
 as a standalone kit).

 Important:
 Requires Mac Pro (with ATI X1900 XT), MacBook Pro, Mac mini or Power
 Mac G5 with DVI port.

 --
 Bill C.
 http://ReelSolid.TV

  




-- 
Richard
http://richardhhall.org
Shows
http://richardshow.org
http://inspiredhealing.tv


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[videoblogging] Re: help watching on tv

2007-03-07 Thread Bill Streeter
Try an Apple Mini-DVI to Video Adapter. I use something simular to 
this with my MacMini.

Here is the link to it in the Apple Store: http://store.apple.com/1-
800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?
mco=4D24B4ABnplm=M9319G%2FA

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com
www.billstreeter.net

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Maureen and I always watch vlogs on TV using the iPod.
 
 My iPod quite working ... very sad ... tried the reboot thing, 
that's worked
 before a zillion times
 
 I thought I'd connect the mac book pro using audio and s-video, 
but no
 s-video on mac book pro.
 
 Maybe it would work with AV cable for iPod by sticking it in the 
ear phone
 jack ... nope
 
 Maybe I could burn stuff to dvd and watch ... not too good of an 
option
 
 Ok, I admit it, actually tonight I was going to watch an episode 
of lost I
 got from iPod store in .m4v
 
 I can't believe that would work in my dvd player.
 
 Quicktime pro didn't seem to want to convert that file into 
anything else,
 maybe copy protection, I don't know.
 
 ... any ideas apprecaited ... richard
 
 -- 
 Richard
 http://richardhhall.org
 Shows
 http://richardshow.org
 http://inspiredhealing.tv
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: help watching on tv

2007-03-07 Thread Bill Streeter
Opps sorry didn't see this when I posted.

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com
www.billstreeter.net

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall
 richard@ wrote:
 
  Maureen and I always watch vlogs on TV using the iPod.
  
  My iPod quite working ... very sad ... tried the reboot thing,
 that's worked
  before a zillion times
  
  I thought I'd connect the mac book pro using audio and s-video, 
but no
  s-video on mac book pro.
  
  
  -- 
  Richard
  http://richardhhall.org
  Shows
  http://richardshow.org
  http://inspiredhealing.tv
 
 http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-
APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/StoreReentry.wo?
productLearnMore=M9267G%2FA
 
 The Apple DVI to Video Adapter was designed to allow Mac Pro (with
 ATI X1900 XT), MacBook Pro, Mac mini and Power Mac G5 users to 
connect
 the DVI port to an S-video or Composite video device such as TVs, 
VCRs
 or overhead projectors with S-Video or RCA (Composite) connectors. 
The
 Apple DVI to Video Adapter is designed to work with the DVI port on
 the Mac Pro (with ATI X1900 XT) MacBook Pro, Mac mini and Power 
Mac G5
 systems only.
 
 Use a separate DVI to VGA Adapter for VGA video out for Mac Pro,
 MacBook Pro, Mac mini or Power Mac G5 (included with all Mac Pro,
 MacBook Pro, Mac mini or Power Mac G5 systems or available for 
order
 as a standalone kit).
 
 Important:
 Requires Mac Pro (with ATI X1900 XT), MacBook Pro, Mac mini or 
Power
 Mac G5 with DVI port.
 
 --
 Bill C.
 http://ReelSolid.TV





[videoblogging] Re: help watching on tv

2007-03-07 Thread Steve Watkins
Steve's HDMI cable suggestion would work well if you had a newer TV,
as it seems HDMI will become the standard connection for years to come.

Anyway to solve your problem, you just need the right apple adaptor.
There is one that turns the DVI port on your macbook into a s-video 
composite output:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?productLearnMore=M9267G/A

The above also works on the Mac Mini, altough my TV has a DVI input so
I havent actually tried this myself.

If you had a normal macbook rather than a macbook pro then youd need a
slightly different adaptor, as that laptop has a mini-DVI output
rather than normal DVI.

Incidentally, low res 320x240 videoblogs probably look better on an
old CRT-type television rather than modern LCD's, as the way CRT's
seem to soften the image helps hide pixels  compresion artifacts.
Just installed a large 1080i LCD tv at my brothers flat and normal
television looks quite bad through it, when close to the screen, let
alone 320x240.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 steve .. I was looking for something that inputs to s-video and it
doesn't
 look like this does, but I may not understand it.
 
 ... richard
 
 On 3/6/07, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
I just bought an HDMI DVI Cable for $5.03.
 
  http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2007/03/steve-tv-ii-hdmi-dvi-
  cable.html
 
  or
 
  http://tinyurl.com/ytxvn4
 
 
  On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:32 PM, Richard (Show) Hall wrote:
 
   Maureen and I always watch vlogs on TV using the iPod.
  
   My iPod quite working ... very sad ... tried the reboot thing,
   that's worked
   before a zillion times
  
   I thought I'd connect the mac book pro using audio and s-video,
but no
   s-video on mac book pro.
  
   Maybe it would work with AV cable for iPod by sticking it in the
   ear phone
   jack ... nope
  
   Maybe I could burn stuff to dvd and watch ... not too good of an
   option
  
   Ok, I admit it, actually tonight I was going to watch an episode of
   lost I
   got from iPod store in .m4v
  
   I can't believe that would work in my dvd player.
  
   Quicktime pro didn't seem to want to convert that file into
   anything else,
   maybe copy protection, I don't know.
  
   ... any ideas apprecaited ... richard
  
   --
   Richard
   http://richardhhall.org
   Shows
   http://richardshow.org
   http://inspiredhealing.tv
  
  
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   Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
  
 
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  http://SteveGarfield.com
 
   
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Richard
 http://richardhhall.org
 Shows
 http://richardshow.org
 http://inspiredhealing.tv
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: help watching on tv

2007-03-07 Thread Steve Watkins
Oops sorry I missed all the other replies before I posted that.

I wonder just how well that Apple TV will sell, out of all the Apple
products released in recent years, maybe this one is a riskier
proposition - will it catch on? Certainly the price is wild compared
to just getting a cable, I guess it depends how far your TV is from
the computer.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Steve's HDMI cable suggestion would work well if you had a newer TV,
 as it seems HDMI will become the standard connection for years to come.
 
 Anyway to solve your problem, you just need the right apple adaptor.
 There is one that turns the DVI port on your macbook into a s-video 
 composite output:
 

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?productLearnMore=M9267G/A
 
 The above also works on the Mac Mini, altough my TV has a DVI input so
 I havent actually tried this myself.
 
 If you had a normal macbook rather than a macbook pro then youd need a
 slightly different adaptor, as that laptop has a mini-DVI output
 rather than normal DVI.
 
 Incidentally, low res 320x240 videoblogs probably look better on an
 old CRT-type television rather than modern LCD's, as the way CRT's
 seem to soften the image helps hide pixels  compresion artifacts.
 Just installed a large 1080i LCD tv at my brothers flat and normal
 television looks quite bad through it, when close to the screen, let
 alone 320x240.
 
 Cheers
 
 Steve Elbows
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall
 richard@ wrote:
 
  steve .. I was looking for something that inputs to s-video and it
 doesn't
  look like this does, but I may not understand it.
  
  ... richard
  
  On 3/6/07, Steve Garfield steve@ wrote:
  
 I just bought an HDMI DVI Cable for $5.03.
  
   http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2007/03/steve-tv-ii-hdmi-dvi-
   cable.html
  
   or
  
   http://tinyurl.com/ytxvn4
  
  
   On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:32 PM, Richard (Show) Hall wrote:
  
Maureen and I always watch vlogs on TV using the iPod.
   
My iPod quite working ... very sad ... tried the reboot thing,
that's worked
before a zillion times
   
I thought I'd connect the mac book pro using audio and s-video,
 but no
s-video on mac book pro.
   
Maybe it would work with AV cable for iPod by sticking it in the
ear phone
jack ... nope
   
Maybe I could burn stuff to dvd and watch ... not too good of an
option
   
Ok, I admit it, actually tonight I was going to watch an
episode of
lost I
got from iPod store in .m4v
   
I can't believe that would work in my dvd player.
   
Quicktime pro didn't seem to want to convert that file into
anything else,
maybe copy protection, I don't know.
   
... any ideas apprecaited ... richard
   
--
Richard
http://richardhhall.org
Shows
http://richardshow.org
http://inspiredhealing.tv
   
   
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Re: [videoblogging] Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news

2007-03-07 Thread Jan McLaughlin
LOL - yes - that's one reason I enjoy Second Life :: I can be whomever I
feel like being at the time.

How did you know it was me?

Jan

On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, and I just saw you introducing yesterday's The Show, Jan.  Nice!
 Worst spelling bee ever.  But you *are* quite flexible.
 http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/archives/2007/03/030507.html


 On 6 Mar 2007, at 13:30, Jan McLaughlin wrote:

 http://www.postbulletin.com/newsmanager/templates/localnews_story.asp?
 a=286422z=23

 Just found this piece.

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[videoblogging] Anyone mixing video and geolocation outside of Google Maps?

2007-03-07 Thread marforton

This is my first post - been lurkig for a few months. Just a quick
question to see if anyone is doing any work in the area of online video
and geolocation outside of  a Google Maps interface.

We've developed a beta UI feature that finds the geographically closest
videos based on some user derived context.  In the case of our beta
functionality, the contexts are limited to video language and location
of the selected video.  A bit more coding would make almost any context
driven filtering possible.

The feature works with any of our interviews found at
http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp
http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp .  Choosing an interview from
Central America (Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua) will best demonstrate
that the functionality works across national borders.

Thoughts on the functionality? Have others implemented similar
contextual functionality with video or working on integrating
geolocation with video outside of a Google maps interface?

Regards

Tony





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[videoblogging] Re: Anyone mixing video and geolocation outside of Google Maps?

2007-03-07 Thread marforton

Select any video interview at the link below to see the feature at work.
Underneath the video that plays, you'll find a UI with the eight
geographically closest videos in that same language.


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 This is my first post - been lurkig for a few months. Just a quick
 question to see if anyone is doing any work in the area of online
video
 and geolocation outside of a Google Maps interface.

 We've developed a beta UI feature that finds the geographically
closest
 videos based on some user derived context. In the case of our beta
 functionality, the contexts are limited to video language and location
 of the selected video. A bit more coding would make almost any context
 driven filtering possible.

 The feature works with any of our interviews found at
 http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp
 http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp . Choosing an interview from
 Central America (Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua) will best demonstrate
 that the functionality works across national borders.

 Thoughts on the functionality? Have others implemented similar
 contextual functionality with video or working on integrating
 geolocation with video outside of a Google maps interface?

 Regards

 Tony





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Re: [videoblogging] Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news

2007-03-07 Thread Rupert
I don't know - I just felt it, like a tremor in the Force... :-)

Must have been a combination of your voice and the Press badge which  
I guessed maybe said Faux Press (as it does), when I went to your  
site to check.  Plus, of course, your incredible flexibility.  That  
was a dead giveaway.

So I checked your site to see.  Also I remember you saying a while  
back that you were in SL.  I've been meaning to check it out for a  
long time.  I just can't quite bring myself yet to get into anything  
else that I might get sucked into obsessively.  I already have enough  
projects on the go, and I have memories of the entire summer after I  
left university being lost to Sim City...

Rupert


On 7 Mar 2007, at 14:36, Jan McLaughlin wrote:

LOL - yes - that's one reason I enjoy Second Life :: I can be whomever I
feel like being at the time.

How did you know it was me?

Jan

On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Yeah, and I just saw you introducing yesterday's The Show, Jan. Nice!
  Worst spelling bee ever. But you *are* quite flexible.
  http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/archives/2007/03/030507.html
 
 
  On 6 Mar 2007, at 13:30, Jan McLaughlin wrote:
 
  http://www.postbulletin.com/newsmanager/templates/ 
localnews_story.asp?
  a=286422z=23
 
  Just found this piece.
 
  Jan
 
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[videoblogging] Turkish goverment banned YOUTUBE!... Please forward everybody!...

2007-03-07 Thread Gokcen Karan
Dear Friends;

Turkish goverments banned www.youtube.com in Turkey. Somebodies put a video
about Ataturk in youtube (Ataturk is founder of Turkish republic) and
defamation about him. Of course it's not a good thing but banned a website I
think is not a democratic movement. Because only one video is included this
bad thing why other thousands videos are banned? I don't understand why? And
this reason Turkish goverment banned youtube today.

And if you type www.youtube.com on your internet browser anywhere in Turkey
you will see below message.


*

*

*Bu siteye eriþim mahkeme kararýyla engellenmiþtir !...*

*www.youtube.com* http://www.youtube.com sitesine eriþim Ýstanbul 1. Sulh
Ceza Mahkemesi'nin 2007/384 sayý ve 06.03.2007 tarihli kararý gereði
engellenmiþtir.

Access to *www.youtube.com*
https://mail.google.com/mail/www.youtube.comsite has been suspended
in accordance with decision no: 2007/384 dated
06.03.2007 of Istanbul First Criminal Peace Court.



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: VON Roll Call

2007-03-07 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
I'll be there as well.

Schlomo
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http://hatfactory.net
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On 3/6/07, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   There was another thread started on this topic. I will be there as
 will Miss Casey McKinnon.

 At the Portable Media Expo, I made sticky badges for all of us to
 indicate video people in the midst of many audio people. I can do this
 again if there's interest. Only here, the conference is about video on
 the net, so perhaps it should be some sort of original content
 producer thingy. Or maybe not necessary at all.

 Rox

 On 3/6/07, amani_c [EMAIL PROTECTED] amani_c%40yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Amani Channel is at VON WestCoastin it. Fa shizzle!
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Jonathan Bloom
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Well, since everyone is doing a roll call for SXSW I propose one
  for VON.
  
   I'll be in California before and after the Conference on a
  vacation with my
   family. So if your at VON it'd be awesome to say hi.
  
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   http://thenameiwantedwastaken.com
  
  
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[videoblogging] Who's NOT going to a conferance!

2007-03-07 Thread Heath
Ok, can we get a roll call of who is not going to any conferances 
within the next few weeks.  Also I was wondering does anybody have tech 
conferances in places besides SF or NY?  I don't know about you but I 
am really looking forward to not seeing any of you.


Sorry, I am just feeling a little ornery for some reason  :)

Heath
http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com

I need a drink.



RE: [videoblogging] Turkish goverment banned YOUTUBE!... Please forward everybody!...

2007-03-07 Thread Charles Hope
And then they're confused as to why they're finding difficulty joining the EU. 
It's called the 20th Century, guys. Join it.




 -Original Message-
 From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gokcen Karan
 Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 11:10
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [videoblogging] Turkish goverment banned YOUTUBE!... 
 Please forward everybody!...
 
 Dear Friends;
 
 Turkish goverments banned www.youtube.com in Turkey. 
 Somebodies put a video about Ataturk in youtube (Ataturk is 
 founder of Turkish republic) and defamation about him. Of 
 course it's not a good thing but banned a website I think is 
 not a democratic movement. Because only one video is included 
 this bad thing why other thousands videos are banned? I don't 
 understand why? And this reason Turkish goverment banned 
 youtube today.
 
 And if you type www.youtube.com on your internet browser 
 anywhere in Turkey you will see below message.
 
 
 *
 __
 __
 *
 
 *Bu siteye eriþim mahkeme kararýyla engellenmiþtir !...*
 
 *www.youtube.com* http://www.youtube.com sitesine eriþim 
 Ýstanbul 1. Sulh Ceza Mahkemesi'nin 2007/384 sayý ve 
 06.03.2007 tarihli kararý gereði engellenmiþtir.
 
 Access to *www.youtube.com*
 https://mail.google.com/mail/www.youtube.comsite has been 
 suspended in accordance with decision no: 2007/384 dated
 06.03.2007 of Istanbul First Criminal Peace Court.
 
 __
 __
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news

2007-03-07 Thread Jen Simmons
I had no idea it was you -- and I was totally impressed with the  
intro. then I listened to it again, and went -- hey! That sounds like  
Jan at the end -- so I watched it again + saw the Faux Press badge.  
Which gave it away
congrats!
Jen

On Mar 7, 2007, at 9:36 am, Jan McLaughlin wrote:

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 whomever I
 feel like being at the time.

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[videoblogging] Re: Who's NOT going to a conferance!

2007-03-07 Thread David Howell
I was invited to go to VON however I couldnt afford the travel
expenses. So...have no worries Heath, you arent alone in not going to
a conference :)

David
http://www.davidhowellstudios.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, can we get a roll call of who is not going to any conferances 
 within the next few weeks.  Also I was wondering does anybody have tech 
 conferances in places besides SF or NY?  I don't know about you but I 
 am really looking forward to not seeing any of you.
 
 
 Sorry, I am just feeling a little ornery for some reason  :)
 
 Heath
 http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com
 
 I need a drink.





Re: [videoblogging] Re: Who's NOT going to a conferance!

2007-03-07 Thread Deirdre Straughan
It does start to get a little irritating sometimes - all the cool people
go to SXSW and the rest of us stay home, right? But, hey, I lived in Austin
before SXSW ever existed! And I knew it was cool even then. So there!

FWIW, I went to a Cisco Expo here in Milan today, which was mostly boring
and the food was bad (a mortal sin in Italy). They talked at length about a
half million dollar videoconferencing system but did not demo it nor even
show video!



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[videoblogging] The Shins...SXSW....tonight

2007-03-07 Thread Jay dedman
if anyone is in Austin yetthe Shins are playing tonight.
Ryanne, me, Verdi and his wife (!)will be going to check them out.
you can still buy tickets here: http://www.thebackyard.net/

call me if you want to hook up...or need a ride.

Jay
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Re: [videoblogging] Who's NOT going to a conferance!

2007-03-07 Thread Markus Sandy
too busy! :)

On Mar 7, 2007, at 9:16 AM, Heath wrote:

 Ok, can we get a roll call of who is not going to any conferances
  within the next few weeks. Also I was wondering does anybody have tech
  conferances in places besides SF or NY? I don't know about you but I
  am really looking forward to not seeing any of you.

  Sorry, I am just feeling a little ornery for some reason :)



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Re: [videoblogging] Turkish goverment banned YOUTUBE!... Please forward everybody!...

2007-03-07 Thread Rupert
Maybe they're confused by the example the French are setting (see  
other thread).  Perhaps they think that to join the EU one has to  
close down User Generated media outlets and imprison citizen  
journalists.   Remember the French legal ruling in 2000 to censor Yahoo?

I'm sure it won't last.  A political football, but one worthy of a  
lot of protest.  I hope the voters give them hell.

Turkey is, for all the bad press it gets, not a backward country.   
It's easy for us to look at it through an orientalist lens.  It has a  
fast growing economy and a thriving democratic government that tries  
to achieve a separation of (Islamic) church and state.  But there are  
certain laws there that restrict freedom of speech - mostly to do  
with insulting Turkey, its history and heroes, it seems.  Feelings  
can run pretty hot on this stuff  - last month a journalist was shot  
on the street for accusing Turkey of genocide in 1915.  Nobel  
laureate novelist Orhan Pamuk was almost taken to trial for talking  
about the same thing.

But YouTube, from what I gather, was shut down because some Greek  
people called Ataturk gay.  That may seem pretty backward, but I  
think it's interesting to think about how such a thing could easily  
happen in our own backyard.  We don't have total freedom of speech in  
the UK - for instance, last year Blair made it against the law to  
incite religious hatred in the UK.  Incitement to religious hatred  
might be open to interpretation.  And I can see how a modern European  
country like the UK or France could end up fighting something like  
this in the courts.  That's what worries me.  And I can see the  
'happy slapping' law from France coming here, too.

Rupert

On 7 Mar 2007, at 17:18, Charles Hope wrote:

And then they're confused as to why they're finding difficulty  
joining the EU. It's called the 20th Century, guys. Join it.

  -Original Message-
  From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gokcen Karan
  Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 11:10
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [videoblogging] Turkish goverment banned YOUTUBE!...
  Please forward everybody!...
 
  Dear Friends;
 
  Turkish goverments banned www.youtube.com in Turkey.
  Somebodies put a video about Ataturk in youtube (Ataturk is
  founder of Turkish republic) and defamation about him. Of
  course it's not a good thing but banned a website I think is
  not a democratic movement. Because only one video is included
  this bad thing why other thousands videos are banned? I don't
  understand why? And this reason Turkish goverment banned
  youtube today.
 
  And if you type www.youtube.com on your internet browser
  anywhere in Turkey you will see below message.
 
 
  *
  __
  __
  *
 
  *Bu siteye eriþim mahkeme kararýyla engellenmiþtir !...*
 
  *www.youtube.com* http://www.youtube.com sitesine eriþim
  Ýstanbul 1. Sulh Ceza Mahkemesi'nin 2007/384 sayý ve
  06.03.2007 tarihli kararý gereði engellenmiþtir.
 
  Access to *www.youtube.com*
  https://mail.google.com/mail/www.youtube.comsite has been
  suspended in accordance with decision no: 2007/384 dated
  06.03.2007 of Istanbul First Criminal Peace Court.
 
  __
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Who's NOT going to a conferance!

2007-03-07 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
I'd show up at any conference you are at, Deirdre!!

She makes conferences more bearable!:)

Schlomo

On 3/7/07, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   It does start to get a little irritating sometimes - all the cool
 people
 go to SXSW and the rest of us stay home, right? But, hey, I lived in
 Austin
 before SXSW ever existed! And I knew it was cool even then. So there!


  



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[videoblogging] Re: Who's NOT going to a conferance!

2007-03-07 Thread Enric
I'm a Not.

  ;)

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, can we get a roll call of who is not going to any conferances 
 within the next few weeks.  Also I was wondering does anybody have tech 
 conferances in places besides SF or NY?  I don't know about you but I 
 am really looking forward to not seeing any of you.
 
 
 Sorry, I am just feeling a little ornery for some reason  :)
 
 Heath
 http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com
 
 I need a drink.





Re: [videoblogging] Re: Who's NOT going to a conferance!

2007-03-07 Thread Deirdre Straughan
Aww. I could have used your company at Cisco today!

BTW, did you win whatever it was? I voted for you.


On 3/7/07, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I'd show up at any conference you are at, Deirdre!!

 She makes conferences more bearable!:)

 Schlomo



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: VON Roll Call

2007-03-07 Thread Joshua Kinberg
I'll be at VON and look forward to seeing everyone!

FireAnt will be presenting in the Video Pavilion and giving a demo of
our latest stuff.

See you there...

Best,
Josh


On 3/7/07, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'll be there as well.

 Schlomo
 http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
 http://webshots.com/is/spotlight
 http://hatfactory.net
 http://evilvlog.com


 On 3/6/07, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
There was another thread started on this topic. I will be there as
  will Miss Casey McKinnon.
 
  At the Portable Media Expo, I made sticky badges for all of us to
  indicate video people in the midst of many audio people. I can do this
  again if there's interest. Only here, the conference is about video on
  the net, so perhaps it should be some sort of original content
  producer thingy. Or maybe not necessary at all.
 
  Rox
 
  On 3/6/07, amani_c [EMAIL PROTECTED] amani_c%40yahoo.com wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Amani Channel is at VON WestCoastin it. Fa shizzle!
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
  Jonathan Bloom
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Well, since everyone is doing a roll call for SXSW I propose one
   for VON.
   
I'll be in California before and after the Conference on a
   vacation with my
family. So if your at VON it'd be awesome to say hi.
   
--
-Jonathan Bloom
http://thenameiwantedwastaken.com
   
   
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Re: [videoblogging] Turkish goverment banned YOUTUBE!... Please forward everybody!...

2007-03-07 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello,

On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]

  But YouTube, from what I gather, was shut down because some Greek
  people called Ataturk gay.  That may seem pretty backward, but I
  think it's interesting to think about how such a thing could easily
  happen in our own backyard.  We don't have total freedom of speech in
  the UK - for instance, last year Blair made it against the law to
  incite religious hatred in the UK.  Incitement to religious hatred
  might be open to interpretation.  And I can see how a modern European
  country like the UK or France could end up fighting something like
  this in the courts.  That's what worries me.  And I can see the
  'happy slapping' law from France coming here, too.

It might be difficult to judge ourselves objectively but

Any country (like the Occidental countries) who enforces Copyright law
or Patent law doesn't have free speech.

Also... any country (like the Occidental countries) that enforces
anti-defamation law -- anti-slander or anti-libel law -- doesn't have
free speech.


See ya

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[videoblogging] Re: Anyone mixing video and geolocation outside of Google Maps?

2007-03-07 Thread Steve Watkins
Your site is giving me database errors at the moment so I cant check
it out.

Personally I havent seen much other than google/yahoo/microsoft maps
stuff, but I struggle to keep up with all the sites out there. Some
individuals use geo data in their own personal ways but I havent seen
many sites make good use of such things in their systems.

I certainly believe there are huge possibilities for using
geographical data in many interesting ways, but quite which things
will catch on is hard to tell, this stuff needs to be built into a lot
more tools  services, and really compelling reasons for using it need
to be discovered. I want to see all the vlogs since I last logged on,
in time  space. But this is probably closer to google maps stuff than
what you are doing, so i wont waffle further about that now.

As for contexts in the broader sense, I guess most sites I see just
group stuff together by fixed category, or by tags, so the context is
centred around keywords of one sort or another. Other than tagging,
there hasnt been a whole bunch of progress on metadata in the last
year or 2. Certainly users mostly want to enter as little data
manually as possible so anything that can supply geo data or other
metadata automatically is a large bonus.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 This is my first post - been lurkig for a few months. Just a quick
 question to see if anyone is doing any work in the area of online video
 and geolocation outside of  a Google Maps interface.
 
 We've developed a beta UI feature that finds the geographically closest
 videos based on some user derived context.  In the case of our beta
 functionality, the contexts are limited to video language and location
 of the selected video.  A bit more coding would make almost any context
 driven filtering possible.
 
 The feature works with any of our interviews found at
 http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp
 http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp .  Choosing an interview from
 Central America (Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua) will best demonstrate
 that the functionality works across national borders.
 
 Thoughts on the functionality? Have others implemented similar
 contextual functionality with video or working on integrating
 geolocation with video outside of a Google maps interface?
 
 Regards
 
 Tony
 
 
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: VON/SXSW Roll Call + my show w /vloggers Kent Nicols, Ryan Hodson+ @ SXSW

2007-03-07 Thread scoobyfox

I'll be at VON + SXSW (are there meetups or a lunch or something? I'd
love to do that at VON especially.

Come participate/say hi at my interactive talk show at my 11th SXSW
(crazy)
Monday the 12th @the Ritz. 
Free, please RSVP
http://upcoming.org/event/149432/

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:Continuous Partial Attention
Why do we live this way?What is worth our full attention? How do we
give it? For how long?

Drinks, nachos and and a twist: each guest for as long as it takes
them to drink one beer.

•Justin Hall [links.net]
•Ryanne Hodson [Ryanishungry.com]
•Micki Krimmel [Mickipedia.com]
•Liz Belile [yoga teacher + feminist p*rnster]
•Lane Becker [Satisfaction]
•Derek Powazek [8020 Publishing | JPG Magazine]
•filmmaker Doug Pray [Scratch, Big Rig]
•Kent Nichols [Askaninja.com]

This will be vlogged + podcast :-)



heather gold
www.subvert.com | truth through comedy
www.heathergold.com



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, schlomo rabinowitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'll be there as well.
 
 Schlomo
 http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
 http://webshots.com/is/spotlight
 http://hatfactory.net
 http://evilvlog.com
 
 
 On 3/6/07, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
There was another thread started on this topic. I will be there as
  will Miss Casey McKinnon.
 
  At the Portable Media Expo, I made sticky badges for all of us to
  indicate video people in the midst of many audio people. I can do this
  again if there's interest. Only here, the conference is about video on
  the net, so perhaps it should be some sort of original content
  producer thingy. Or maybe not necessary at all.
 
  Rox
 
  On 3/6/07, amani_c [EMAIL PROTECTED] amani_c%40yahoo.com wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Amani Channel is at VON WestCoastin it. Fa shizzle!
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
  Jonathan Bloom
   jonathan@ wrote:
   
Well, since everyone is doing a roll call for SXSW I propose one
   for VON.
   
I'll be in California before and after the Conference on a
   vacation with my
family. So if your at VON it'd be awesome to say hi.
   
--
-Jonathan Bloom
http://thenameiwantedwastaken.com
   
   
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   
  
  
 
  --
  Roxanne Darling
  o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian
  808-384-5554
 
  http://www.beachwalks.tv
  http://www.barefeetshop.com
  http://www.barefeetstudios.com
  http://www.inthetransition.com
   
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Turkish goverment banned YOUTUBE!... Please forward everybody!...

2007-03-07 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
Wow! The past coupla weeks have been full of Word, Access and
Preception manipulation.

Is this translation correct? First Criminal Peace Court 


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gokcen Karan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Friends;
 
 Turkish goverments banned www.youtube.com in Turkey. 


 *Bu siteye eriþim mahkeme kararýyla engellenmiþtir !...*
 
 *www.youtube.com* http://www.youtube.com sitesine eriþim Ýstanbul
1. Sulh
 Ceza Mahkemesi'nin 2007/384 sayý ve 06.03.2007 tarihli kararý gereði
 engellenmiþtir.
 
 Access to *www.youtube.com*
 https://mail.google.com/mail/www.youtube.comsite has been suspended
 in accordance with decision no: 2007/384 dated
 06.03.2007 of Istanbul First Criminal Peace Court.
 


 
 Gokcen Karan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: [videoblogging] Re: crowdabout.us (was blog vs youtube myspace)

2007-03-07 Thread groups-yahoo-com
This is the most interesting bit of conversation I've read in a while.

I'm spent but I wanted to just say this.

The trick with time based commenting is to make it live in the
ecosystem... NOT just on crowdabout.us.

I love the idea of the embedded player. Watch the video and make time
based comments right in the blog.

I'll go one further thought.

This is just off the top of my head but Crowdabout.us could then post
that time based comment BACK to the comments in the bloggers own page
so that the time based comments could be followed not ONLY in the
flash widget, but would be a PART of the established comments section.

The key would be...

a) gaining access to the blogger, MT, and Wordpress API's by allowing
crowdabout.us users to claim their blog.

b) developing a light semantic markup or microformat for leaving time
based comments from crowdabout.us IN the comments on blogs.  This
would ensure that all the crowdabout.us metadata would be syndicated
wherever the conversation went... blog post to blog post... and
comment to comment across the web... ultimately creating more value
throughout the space and driving more traffic and attention back to
crowdabout.us.  It's like mybloglog and their widget, or co.comments
and their bookmarklet's and widgets.  Hundreds of web2.0 companies use
similar mechanisms.

Oh... and...

c) perhaps I overlooked the obvious, but if crowdabout.us doesn't
already have it before even the two forementioned items crowdabout.us
should provide easy re-blogging by hooking into the main blogging
platforms API's.  I should be able to click re-blog this while
looking at any video on crowdabout.us and add reblog a video right
from a specific time and leave my comments on my blog.

Just day dreaming.

Peace,

-Mike
mefeedia.com
mmeiser.com/blog

On 3/6/07, caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Carter,
 
  I'm loving crowdabout.  I've uploaded my videos and added time-based
  comments.  Brilliant.  I see what you mean about the authorship of
  comments being clear.  And I see a few people from this list have
  signed up today.

 Hey Rupert!
 The feeling is mutual; I saw your Big Shave video on CrowdAbout and
 loved it!
 
  For my latest post on my blog, I replaced my Blip player with a
  crowdabout embedded 'slim' player just to see.  Looks nice.  But
  could you also provide an embeddable player that shows the timeline
  comments, perhaps showing the text of comments as a semi-opaque
  overlay on top of the video?  I would be happy to have a bigger
  player for this - isn't that what the Innertoob player did? (i've
  been reading your blog)  Even if it meant that when people wanted to
  add comments themselves, they were taken to the crowdabout site,
  that'd be fine - just seems to be missing the obvious to have an
  embedded crowdabout player without crowdabout's big feature.  There's
  a balance to be played between giving people incentives to put you on
  their blogs and making people use the crowdabout website.

 Yeah, you have hit upon the biggest area of decision waffling we have
 going right now - the embeddable player.  I just don't think we are
 going to strike a balance that makes everyone happy with it, to be
 honest.  Some people have definite size/design requirements when
 selecting a player for their site.  But since at heart we aren't just
 another player (we're a commenting system and a social community), it
 would make more sense to get those comments into the embedded player.
  But if we try to do both (keep it small AND add the comments)
 suddenly it starts to overwhelm the content.  And we would be foolish
 to EVER think that our system's capabilities supercedes a vlogger's
 content.

 So our decision (for now, but we are incredibly open to suggestions)
 was to leave the player as the content display widget, with a comment
 button that would allow a viewer to to make the leap into
 participation.  Keeping these two functions somewhat separate (viewing
 and participating) seems to be the best compromise.

 BUT- The subject lines of each time-post DO appear in the progress bar
 area, so you can scrub through the content to see what those subjects say.
 
 And keep in mind that audio podcasters are using the service, too, and
 their desire for a small player is even more demanding, since they
 don't need space to display video.

  Also, I couldn't find the Social Player at crowdabout where you said
  you'd left comment love - am i being stupid?
 
 Sorry, I should have been more clear.  Social Player is what we call
 the interactive, or conversational player on the CrowdAbout site.
 What I should have said was that I used the Social Player to leave you
 some audio-comment love in one of your videos.  And here's the link
 for one of those comments:

 http://crowdabout.us/jump_in/cae83f209f616c5df


 If you or anyone has ideas about a better way to bring the comment
 reading/interactivity into the 

[videoblogging] Re: Anyone mixing video and geolocation outside of Google Maps?

2007-03-07 Thread caroosky


Sounds very cool, Tony.  I'm having problems with the link you
provided, though, so I'll check back to see it in action later.

Rupert (from this forum) is using google map links in the time-posts
of his videos over at CrowdAbout.us.  Poor guy is going to think I've
started stalking him, but I was amazed and pleased to see just how
immediate and contextual information like this is, when presented
along with video, and how it helped to make the connection to the
content and the creator more tangible.  It's got me thinking we should
even make it an option, and turn the link into the map display right
in the post.

Best,
Carter Harkins
http://crowdabout.us


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Select any video interview at the link below to see the feature at work.
 Underneath the video that plays, you'll find a UI with the eight
 geographically closest videos in that same language.
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton marforton@ wrote:
 
 
  This is my first post - been lurkig for a few months. Just a quick
  question to see if anyone is doing any work in the area of online
 video
  and geolocation outside of a Google Maps interface.
 
  We've developed a beta UI feature that finds the geographically
 closest
  videos based on some user derived context. In the case of our beta
  functionality, the contexts are limited to video language and location
  of the selected video. A bit more coding would make almost any context
  driven filtering possible.
 
  The feature works with any of our interviews found at
  http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp
  http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp . Choosing an interview from
  Central America (Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua) will best demonstrate
  that the functionality works across national borders.
 
  Thoughts on the functionality? Have others implemented similar
  contextual functionality with video or working on integrating
  geolocation with video outside of a Google maps interface?
 
  Regards
 
  Tony
 
 
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Anyone mixing video and geolocation outside of Google Maps?

2007-03-07 Thread marforton

The site is back now.   Sorry, it wasn't us.  Please try again.

T


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Sounds very cool, Tony. I'm having problems with the link you
 provided, though, so I'll check back to see it in action later.

 Rupert (from this forum) is using google map links in the time-posts
 of his videos over at CrowdAbout.us. Poor guy is going to think I've
 started stalking him, but I was amazed and pleased to see just how
 immediate and contextual information like this is, when presented
 along with video, and how it helped to make the connection to the
 content and the creator more tangible. It's got me thinking we should
 even make it an option, and turn the link into the map display right
 in the post.

 Best,
 Carter Harkins
 http://crowdabout.us


 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton marforton@ wrote:
 
 
  Select any video interview at the link below to see the feature at
work.
  Underneath the video that plays, you'll find a UI with the eight
  geographically closest videos in that same language.
 
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton marforton@
wrote:
  
  
   This is my first post - been lurkig for a few months. Just a quick
   question to see if anyone is doing any work in the area of online
  video
   and geolocation outside of a Google Maps interface.
  
   We've developed a beta UI feature that finds the geographically
  closest
   videos based on some user derived context. In the case of our beta
   functionality, the contexts are limited to video language and
location
   of the selected video. A bit more coding would make almost any
context
   driven filtering possible.
  
   The feature works with any of our interviews found at
   http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp
   http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp . Choosing an interview
from
   Central America (Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua) will best
demonstrate
   that the functionality works across national borders.
  
   Thoughts on the functionality? Have others implemented similar
   contextual functionality with video or working on integrating
   geolocation with video outside of a Google maps interface?
  
   Regards
  
   Tony
  
  
  
  
  
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[videoblogging] video Blogging Week 2007

2007-03-07 Thread Josh Leo
It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007
April 1-7 2007

prepare yourselves!

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www.JoshLeo.com
www.WanderingWestMichigan.com


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Re: [videoblogging] video Blogging Week 2007

2007-03-07 Thread David King
Cool! So - what does one do on videoblogging week?

david

On 3/7/07, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007
 April 1-7 2007

 prepare yourselves!

 --
 Josh Leo

 www.JoshLeo.com
 www.WanderingWestMichigan.com

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[videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace

2007-03-07 Thread Steve Watkins
Cheers. I think I still use the hammer too much myself, even though I
have other tools available!

Youtube was not the obvious candidate in my mind when talking about
video conversations here in the past, but as they have a critical mass
of users, and at some point added the video responses feature, it was
the first big instance Id seen of this stuff actually happening.

Forums/messageboards were where I cut my net communications teeth in
text, and so Ive ocasionally waffled here about how I wanted to see
video fused with the messageboard way of things. I wondered how it
would be done, whether people would actually use it. Im still
wondering because things havent reached that stage yet, but at least
there are a few services out there such as yours, and youtube has at
least stuck its toe into the water.

Anyway I would like to think that there'd have been more people
joining in this conversation if it were happenign a year or 2 ago, I
dunoo, it seems harder to have a long conversation about what features
people dream of these days, perhaps because people basic needs are
already satisfied. All the same I hope there are actually a mass of
people passionately excited about all these sorts of alternative 
extra uses for video on the net. I like shows and everything else
thats happening but I yearn for the days when there was a chance that
any day you coudl logon and find some individual has created some
funky tool, that whilst primitive shows the potential of the future.
It felt like there were no frontiers, now much talk seems to centre
around re-crossing the frontiers that the mass media previously filled
with concrete, but I fear far too much replication of TV and the old
ways, leading to mothing different enough to truly stir my passions.

Anyway I definately agree with others that its pretty essential that
your comment system be built into the embedded player.

Cheers

Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Steve,
 Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts in
 finding differences.
 
 I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in your
 kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a
nail.
 
 As someone spending a great deal of time thinking about how to build
 social tools, I'm perhaps all too quick to criticize YouTube's hammer
 (in this case, their comment feature).  In doing this, I'm not about
 to criticize content creators who use YouTube for what it does best:
 getting video up on the web and available to a massively large
 potential audience.  I put things on YouTube when that is my goal. 
 When I want to have more control over my files, and need to use the
 content in many different ways, I've found blip.tv to be an
 indispensible tool.
 
 But if I want to have conversations using video content as the
 starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube.  This is partly because
 of an admittedly snobbish opinion of the quality of conversation
 taking place there, but it's also because I don't think the commenting
 system they have deployed is good for much else beyond the quick
 drive-by style comment.  This snobbery does not extend to content
 creators, though.
 
 And while I'm making admissions, I will additionally confess that I am
 wildly idealistic about how our collective community of content
 creators can mold and shape the fabric of the internet, as well as the
 discussions taking place not only in this medium, but offline as well.
  But as a builder of tools, I try (although I probably don't
 always succeed) to just build something cool, and then let others tell
 me how they prefer to use it.  I am often surprised to learn the ways
 that people are using a tool for an advantage I never would have
 imagined in a hundred years.  The creativity of others is inspiring,
 to say the least.
 
 And much of that inspiration is viewable on YouTube.
 
 
 Best,
 Carter Harkins
 http://crowdabout.us
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote:
 
  There was some talk in this group about youtuber's that I thought was
  a bit snobbish a while ago, because it made me rant, but it was
  probably only mild and it can be hard to seperate criticism of the
  service with those using it sometimes.
  
  But on a certain level I would not be surprised if the 'brand
  repputation' of youtube can heavily influence the reputation of
  someone posting there. I could forsee plenty of exceptions, a show
  that gets enough attention will be talked about in terms of itself,
  that its on youtube is incidental. And this just re-inforces the fact
  that one off clips, copyrighted stuff, other popular 'viral' videos
  without a strong identity of their own are what will link most
  strongly to the word 'youtube'.
  
  If there is any snobbishness around, I suppose its bourn from some
  peoples high expectations and ideals about what videoblogging would be
  used for. What I could describe as the 

Re: [videoblogging] video Blogging Week 2007

2007-03-07 Thread Rupert
YAYYY

On 7 Mar 2007, at 20:04, Josh Leo wrote:

It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007
April 1-7 2007

prepare yourselves!

--  
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www.JoshLeo.com
www.WanderingWestMichigan.com

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[videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007

2007-03-07 Thread David Howell
Post a video every day for a week. Generally it's based on a theme.
Last year it was Vlogging Dangerously.

David
http://www.davidhowellstudios.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Cool! So - what does one do on videoblogging week?
 
 david
 
 On 3/7/07, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007
  April 1-7 2007
 
  prepare yourselves!
 
  --
  Josh Leo
 
  www.JoshLeo.com
  www.WanderingWestMichigan.com
 
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 -- 
 David King
 davidleeking.com - blog
 http://davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] video Blogging Week 2007

2007-03-07 Thread Chris Daniel
I was just thinking about this earlier today.. random.

1 video a day for 7 days straight!

Looking fwd to it.

-Chris
-- 
--
http://www.ChrisDanielVideos.com (video blog)
http://nTune.tv

On 3/7/07, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007
 April 1-7 2007

 prepare yourselves!

 --
 Josh Leo

 www.JoshLeo.com
 www.WanderingWestMichigan.com

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: crowdabout.us (was blog vs youtube myspace)

2007-03-07 Thread Rupert
Mike,
On the money.  I agree with all you say - all that would be great, if  
possible.
At the moment Crowdabout is just fed off your feed, with flv files  
from Blip or wherever automatically added.
I'm guessing that cross-commenting using all the APIs and widgets  
would be a monster job given how they're set up at the moment, but  
would be very cool and big driver for crowdabout users.
Rupert



On 7 Mar 2007, at 19:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This is the most interesting bit of conversation I've read in a while.

I'm spent but I wanted to just say this.

The trick with time based commenting is to make it live in the
ecosystem... NOT just on crowdabout.us.

I love the idea of the embedded player. Watch the video and make time
based comments right in the blog.

I'll go one further thought.

This is just off the top of my head but Crowdabout.us could then post
that time based comment BACK to the comments in the bloggers own page
so that the time based comments could be followed not ONLY in the
flash widget, but would be a PART of the established comments section.

The key would be...

a) gaining access to the blogger, MT, and Wordpress API's by allowing
crowdabout.us users to claim their blog.

b) developing a light semantic markup or microformat for leaving time
based comments from crowdabout.us IN the comments on blogs. This
would ensure that all the crowdabout.us metadata would be syndicated
wherever the conversation went... blog post to blog post... and
comment to comment across the web... ultimately creating more value
throughout the space and driving more traffic and attention back to
crowdabout.us. It's like mybloglog and their widget, or co.comments
and their bookmarklet's and widgets. Hundreds of web2.0 companies use
similar mechanisms.

Oh... and...

c) perhaps I overlooked the obvious, but if crowdabout.us doesn't
already have it before even the two forementioned items crowdabout.us
should provide easy re-blogging by hooking into the main blogging
platforms API's. I should be able to click re-blog this while
looking at any video on crowdabout.us and add reblog a video right
from a specific time and leave my comments on my blog.

Just day dreaming.

Peace,

-Mike
mefeedia.com
mmeiser.com/blog

On 3/6/07, caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Carter,
  
   I'm loving crowdabout. I've uploaded my videos and added time-based
   comments. Brilliant. I see what you mean about the authorship of
   comments being clear. And I see a few people from this list have
   signed up today.
 
  Hey Rupert!
  The feeling is mutual; I saw your Big Shave video on CrowdAbout and
  loved it!
  
   For my latest post on my blog, I replaced my Blip player with a
   crowdabout embedded 'slim' player just to see. Looks nice. But
   could you also provide an embeddable player that shows the timeline
   comments, perhaps showing the text of comments as a semi-opaque
   overlay on top of the video? I would be happy to have a bigger
   player for this - isn't that what the Innertoob player did? (i've
   been reading your blog) Even if it meant that when people wanted to
   add comments themselves, they were taken to the crowdabout site,
   that'd be fine - just seems to be missing the obvious to have an
   embedded crowdabout player without crowdabout's big feature.  
There's
   a balance to be played between giving people incentives to put  
you on
   their blogs and making people use the crowdabout website.
 
  Yeah, you have hit upon the biggest area of decision waffling we have
  going right now - the embeddable player. I just don't think we are
  going to strike a balance that makes everyone happy with it, to be
  honest. Some people have definite size/design requirements when
  selecting a player for their site. But since at heart we aren't just
  another player (we're a commenting system and a social community), it
  would make more sense to get those comments into the embedded player.
  But if we try to do both (keep it small AND add the comments)
  suddenly it starts to overwhelm the content. And we would be foolish
  to EVER think that our system's capabilities supercedes a vlogger's
  content.
 
  So our decision (for now, but we are incredibly open to suggestions)
  was to leave the player as the content display widget, with a comment
  button that would allow a viewer to to make the leap into
  participation. Keeping these two functions somewhat separate (viewing
  and participating) seems to be the best compromise.
 
  BUT- The subject lines of each time-post DO appear in the progress  
bar
  area, so you can scrub through the content to see what those  
subjects say.
  
  And keep in mind that audio podcasters are using the service, too,  
and
  their desire for a small player is even more demanding, since they
  don't need space to display video.
 
   Also, I couldn't find the Social Player at crowdabout where you  
said
   you'd 

Re: [videoblogging] video Blogging Week 2007

2007-03-07 Thread Josh Leo
official announcement:
http://wearethemedia.com/2007/03/07/videoblogging-week-2007/

On 3/7/07, Chris Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I was just thinking about this earlier today.. random.

 1 video a day for 7 days straight!

 Looking fwd to it.

 -Chris
 --
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 http://www.ChrisDanielVideos.com (video blog)
 http://nTune.tv


 On 3/7/07, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] joshleo%40gmail.com wrote:
 
  It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007
  April 1-7 2007
 
  prepare yourselves!
 
  --
  Josh Leo
 
  www.JoshLeo.com
  www.WanderingWestMichigan.com
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Fwd: Opera proposed Theora for native video playback in browsers

2007-03-07 Thread Steve Watkins
That is interesting news. I always go on about mpeg4 and h264 as if
they are the ideal, wheras in an ideal world something like ogg theora
would be the most worthwhile format to support - being open and
unburdened by much intellectual property horror.

In practice I rarely respond when you mention this sort of stuff, only
because such things hav not gained widespread popular support from the
majority of users who are on windows or os x. Having dabbled with
Linux I presume that most Linux users are used to having to put in
some extra effort to think about these things, and choose open
formats. If only the same enthusiasm could be transferred over to
people on other paltforms.

There desnt seem to be much of a problem with playing back theora
files on OSX or Windows, as VLC and some other apps can play it, and
quicktime  directshow stuff are available to enable playback within
those systems. There does seem to be a lack of nice easy well-known
encoder applications with proper GUI. The masses arent going to use
command line tools, so where are the developers to bridge the gap? I
tried to use VLC on the mac to encode, using its ability to transcode,
but I only got the audio in the resulting ogg file, the video went
missing somewhere. I will try again sometime.

Anyway I support strongly the idea of video being built into a future
HTML spec, and being supported as standard in browsers. I There could
be problems if peoplew ont use the format till all browsers support
it, if microsoft or apple dont want to play ball, they will only be
forced to if sites use and expect such features and it helps drive
more people to firefox or opera. But will sites use such a format if
others like flash are well established already? Anyway I hope this
initiative leads to something.

I suppose the other issue I could have is how rich the control of the
video is within the page. Need to be able to do things like report
back to javascript what position in the timeline the video is at, if
clever stuff (that can currently be done in flash) such as video
conversations linked off timeline, are to be achieved using the
built-in video feature.

Returning to Theora as a whole, my other issue is with hardware
playback  recording support, and the chances of it being used on
mobile phones etc. Its still too early to tell quite how big an issue
these things are, has to catch on with the masses, but mpeg4 and
friends are looking fairly entrenched on these platforms so far.

Cheers

Steve Elbows
 
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles Iliya Krempeaux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Awesome news!
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Luis Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mar 5, 2007 2:23 PM
 Subject: [theora] Opera proposed Theora for native video playback in
 browsers
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hi ,
 
 I see this news in Opera website :
 http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/2007/03/05/1
 
 I think this is a good news for Theora Team and also a greater news
if video
 tag becomes true.
 
 This extract of the website is incredible :
 'One thing to keep in mind that adding native support for Theora in
Opera
 would only add about 300K to Opera's overall size! And I am sure
that could
 even be optimized to reduce it even further.'
 
 _
 ___
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/theora
 
 
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 charles @ reptile.ca
 supercanadian @ gmail.com
 
 developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/

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[videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007

2007-03-07 Thread Heath
ah, video blogging week, when we used to have fun, hold hands, dream 
of a better tommorrow and sing a little song called video blogging 
week

http://blip.tv/file/get/Joshleo-anOdeToVideobloggingWeek2006751.mov

yes, I long for days such as these.Oh, how my heart aches for the 
simple days of vlogging before money, power and fame, before shows, 
beforeoh the hell with it.. Rock on, what's the theme?  ;)

Heath
http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007
 April 1-7 2007
 
 prepare yourselves!
 
 -- 
 Josh Leo
 
 www.JoshLeo.com
 www.WanderingWestMichigan.com
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace

2007-03-07 Thread David King
Carter (I think) said:

 But if I want to have conversations using video content as the
 starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube.

Help me out here - why is it an either/or thing with using Youtube for
conversations? I'm not getting that. Because Youtube works basically the
same as any other video hosting service - you can still embed your youtube
videos on your real blog, and basically ignore the youtube part of it. You
still get your videoblog's rss feed, and you still get your videoblog's
comments...

Other than the video ownership thing and downloading, what's the diff?

david

So you can still do rss

On 3/7/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Cheers. I think I still use the hammer too much myself, even though I
 have other tools available!

 Youtube was not the obvious candidate in my mind when talking about
 video conversations here in the past, but as they have a critical mass
 of users, and at some point added the video responses feature, it was
 the first big instance Id seen of this stuff actually happening.

 Forums/messageboards were where I cut my net communications teeth in
 text, and so Ive ocasionally waffled here about how I wanted to see
 video fused with the messageboard way of things. I wondered how it
 would be done, whether people would actually use it. Im still
 wondering because things havent reached that stage yet, but at least
 there are a few services out there such as yours, and youtube has at
 least stuck its toe into the water.

 Anyway I would like to think that there'd have been more people
 joining in this conversation if it were happenign a year or 2 ago, I
 dunoo, it seems harder to have a long conversation about what features
 people dream of these days, perhaps because people basic needs are
 already satisfied. All the same I hope there are actually a mass of
 people passionately excited about all these sorts of alternative 
 extra uses for video on the net. I like shows and everything else
 thats happening but I yearn for the days when there was a chance that
 any day you coudl logon and find some individual has created some
 funky tool, that whilst primitive shows the potential of the future.
 It felt like there were no frontiers, now much talk seems to centre
 around re-crossing the frontiers that the mass media previously filled
 with concrete, but I fear far too much replication of TV and the old
 ways, leading to mothing different enough to truly stir my passions.

 Anyway I definately agree with others that its pretty essential that
 your comment system be built into the embedded player.

 Cheers

 Steve Elbows
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Steve,
  Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts in
  finding differences.
 
  I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in your
  kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a
 nail.
 
  As someone spending a great deal of time thinking about how to build
  social tools, I'm perhaps all too quick to criticize YouTube's hammer
  (in this case, their comment feature). In doing this, I'm not about
  to criticize content creators who use YouTube for what it does best:
  getting video up on the web and available to a massively large
  potential audience. I put things on YouTube when that is my goal.
  When I want to have more control over my files, and need to use the
  content in many different ways, I've found blip.tv to be an
  indispensible tool.
 
  But if I want to have conversations using video content as the
  starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube. This is partly because
  of an admittedly snobbish opinion of the quality of conversation
  taking place there, but it's also because I don't think the commenting
  system they have deployed is good for much else beyond the quick
  drive-by style comment. This snobbery does not extend to content
  creators, though.
 
  And while I'm making admissions, I will additionally confess that I am
  wildly idealistic about how our collective community of content
  creators can mold and shape the fabric of the internet, as well as the
  discussions taking place not only in this medium, but offline as well.
  But as a builder of tools, I try (although I probably don't
  always succeed) to just build something cool, and then let others tell
  me how they prefer to use it. I am often surprised to learn the ways
  that people are using a tool for an advantage I never would have
  imagined in a hundred years. The creativity of others is inspiring,
  to say the least.
 
  And much of that inspiration is viewable on YouTube.
 
 
  Best,
  Carter Harkins
  http://crowdabout.us
 
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Steve Watkins steve@ wrote:
  
   There was some talk in this group about youtuber's that I thought was
   a bit snobbish a while ago, because it made me rant, but it was
   probably 

[videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007

2007-03-07 Thread Steve Watkins
Shows arent going anywhere but we could always run away from them.
Come burn your wallets and come with me, to a land where conversation
is the currency, to a dimension unburdened by the compromises tat cash
forces on humans.

Hmm proably needs a snappier title if Im going to sell that as a
possible theme for the week ;)

Selling out is a persona thing, as you are only selling yourself short
of previously held ideals. I havent vlogged properly so I cant look
back and judge myself of 2.5 years ago to see how much Ive
compromised, my vlog is pure by not existing lol. 

So anyway Im in no position to get up on some moral mountain and start
preeching but what the heck, the terrible shame is that potentially
those most passiante about vlogging could 'sell out' the most, because
they are more likely to want to do it fulltime and thats where money
becomes a real pressing issue, inviting compromise into your heart and
seeing if you can live with the self-imposed restraints on freedom
that almost all financial relationships bring in one way or another.

Meanwhile I sell out in a different way, by keeping the day job which
feeds me but robs me of the time necessary to do what I actually want
to do with video, ie something, anything. Obvously I could save hours
a day b not talking here, and use that to vlog, but as I havent
managed to do that in 2.5 years its more likely to happen if my dayjob
comes to a crashing end. So you never know I could participate in vlog
week this year if I go insane (or get sane) and resign, but my credit
card balance tells me Ive imprisoned myself for years to come.

Cheers

Steve Elbows.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ah, video blogging week, when we used to have fun, hold hands, dream 
 of a better tommorrow and sing a little song called video blogging 
 week
 
 http://blip.tv/file/get/Joshleo-anOdeToVideobloggingWeek2006751.mov
 
 yes, I long for days such as these.Oh, how my heart aches for the 
 simple days of vlogging before money, power and fame, before shows, 
 beforeoh the hell with it.. Rock on, what's the theme?  ;)
 
 Heath
 http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo joshleo@ wrote:
 
  It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007
  April 1-7 2007
  
  prepare yourselves!
  
  -- 
  Josh Leo
  
  www.JoshLeo.com
  www.WanderingWestMichigan.com
  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Anyone mixing video and geolocation outside of Google Maps?

2007-03-07 Thread Rupert
Thanks, Carter :D

A built in option to leave map images would be great, if you can find  
an easy way to plug in the Google Maps API.  Just giving the links  
has been fun.

Actually, maybe you don't even have to call the map image into the  
frame.  I have dreamed (as I mentioned before) of a whole bunch of  
different types of time-based icons  hotspots built into the player  
- timeline based icons that appear at one side at specific times - an  
icon that shows a map, another icon that opens an info page... a wide  
selection of different icons that the author could choose from that  
could represent all sorts of links/info - like the different icons in  
Google Earth community posts that show whether a placemark is a  
photo, video, blog entry, whatever.  Maybe these icons could be  
something we can click and paste into the Time Post pane below the  
player in Crowdabout.us - so that an author clicks on the icon he  
wants, adds the URL and the viewer just sees a clickable icon as a  
post/comment rather than all the longwinded text of the map URL like  
I've done.  Rich, rich, rich!

I've been leaving you audio comments in return to yours, talking into  
my laptop while my wife stares at me as if I'm mad.  Love audio  
comments.  Wish I had a Macbook with built in iSight so I could stare  
at the lens while I talk.

For anyone who feels mad talking into a lens as if you're talking to  
a real person, I highly recommend http://www.zefrank.com today.  It's  
genius.

Rupert
http://www.fatgirlinohio.org/
http://www.crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/


On 7 Mar 2007, at 19:17, caroosky wrote:



Sounds very cool, Tony. I'm having problems with the link you
provided, though, so I'll check back to see it in action later.

Rupert (from this forum) is using google map links in the time-posts
of his videos over at CrowdAbout.us. Poor guy is going to think I've
started stalking him, but I was amazed and pleased to see just how
immediate and contextual information like this is, when presented
along with video, and how it helped to make the connection to the
content and the creator more tangible. It's got me thinking we should
even make it an option, and turn the link into the map display right
in the post.

Best,
Carter Harkins
http://crowdabout.us

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Select any video interview at the link below to see the feature at  
work.
  Underneath the video that plays, you'll find a UI with the eight
  geographically closest videos in that same language.
 
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton marforton@ wrote:
  
  
   This is my first post - been lurkig for a few months. Just a quick
   question to see if anyone is doing any work in the area of online
  video
   and geolocation outside of a Google Maps interface.
  
   We've developed a beta UI feature that finds the geographically
  closest
   videos based on some user derived context. In the case of our beta
   functionality, the contexts are limited to video language and  
location
   of the selected video. A bit more coding would make almost any  
context
   driven filtering possible.
  
   The feature works with any of our interviews found at
   http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp
   http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp . Choosing an interview from
   Central America (Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua) will best  
demonstrate
   that the functionality works across national borders.
  
   Thoughts on the functionality? Have others implemented similar
   contextual functionality with video or working on integrating
   geolocation with video outside of a Google maps interface?
  
   Regards
  
   Tony
  
  
  
  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: VON Roll Call

2007-03-07 Thread Frank Sinton
I'll be at VON (wish I could go to SXSW too, but have to be in the 
DC area). Will be sure to stop by and check out the new FireAnt!

Mefeedia was going to do an exhibit at VON, but we are still 
in ramp up mode. We will be there in person, however, to show 
anyone who wants to listen the new Mefeedia.

Frank Sinton
CEO, Mefeedia
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.mefeedia.com - Find great videoblogs and podcasts.
Our blog: http://mefeedia.com/blog


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'll be at VON and look forward to seeing everyone!
 
 FireAnt will be presenting in the Video Pavilion and giving a demo 
of
 our latest stuff.
 
 See you there...
 
 Best,
 Josh
 
 
 On 3/7/07, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'll be there as well.
 
  Schlomo
  http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
  http://webshots.com/is/spotlight
  http://hatfactory.net
  http://evilvlog.com
 
 
  On 3/6/07, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 There was another thread started on this topic. I will be 
there as
   will Miss Casey McKinnon.
  
   At the Portable Media Expo, I made sticky badges for all of us 
to
   indicate video people in the midst of many audio people. I can 
do this
   again if there's interest. Only here, the conference is about 
video on
   the net, so perhaps it should be some sort of original content
   producer thingy. Or maybe not necessary at all.
  
   Rox
  
   On 3/6/07, amani_c [EMAIL PROTECTED] amani_c%40yahoo.com wrote:
   
   
   
   
   
   
Amani Channel is at VON WestCoastin it. Fa shizzle!
   
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%
40yahoogroups.com,
   Jonathan Bloom
jonathan@ wrote:

 Well, since everyone is doing a roll call for SXSW I 
propose one
for VON.

 I'll be in California before and after the Conference on a
vacation with my
 family. So if your at VON it'd be awesome to say hi.

 --
 -Jonathan Bloom
 http://thenameiwantedwastaken.com


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   o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian
   808-384-5554
  
   http://www.beachwalks.tv
   http://www.barefeetshop.com
   http://www.barefeetstudios.com
   http://www.inthetransition.com
  
  
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] video Blogging Week 2007

2007-03-07 Thread Markus Sandy
Cool!

That's also the same as http://superhappyvloghouse.pbwiki.com weekend

Good way to get a start on the week

Markus



On Mar 7, 2007, at 12:04 PM, Josh Leo wrote:

 It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007
  April 1-7 2007

  prepare yourselves!



---
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http://feeds.feedburner.com/havemoneywillvlog
http://feeds.feedburner.com/apperceptions
http://feeds.feedburner.com/digitaldojo
http://feeds.feedburner.com/spinflow


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007

2007-03-07 Thread Rupert
Elbows, I BEG you to videoblog this videobloggingweek.

Don't edit too much or muck about.  Just post 30 seconds of something  
every day.

FEEL THE FEAR/APATHY/INDIFFERENCE AND DO IT ANYWAY!
:-))

On 7 Mar 2007, at 20:36, Steve Watkins wrote:

Shows arent going anywhere but we could always run away from them.
Come burn your wallets and come with me, to a land where conversation
is the currency, to a dimension unburdened by the compromises tat cash
forces on humans.

Hmm proably needs a snappier title if Im going to sell that as a
possible theme for the week ;)

Selling out is a persona thing, as you are only selling yourself short
of previously held ideals. I havent vlogged properly so I cant look
back and judge myself of 2.5 years ago to see how much Ive
compromised, my vlog is pure by not existing lol.

So anyway Im in no position to get up on some moral mountain and start
preeching but what the heck, the terrible shame is that potentially
those most passiante about vlogging could 'sell out' the most, because
they are more likely to want to do it fulltime and thats where money
becomes a real pressing issue, inviting compromise into your heart and
seeing if you can live with the self-imposed restraints on freedom
that almost all financial relationships bring in one way or another.

Meanwhile I sell out in a different way, by keeping the day job which
feeds me but robs me of the time necessary to do what I actually want
to do with video, ie something, anything. Obvously I could save hours
a day b not talking here, and use that to vlog, but as I havent
managed to do that in 2.5 years its more likely to happen if my dayjob
comes to a crashing end. So you never know I could participate in vlog
week this year if I go insane (or get sane) and resign, but my credit
card balance tells me Ive imprisoned myself for years to come.

Cheers

Steve Elbows.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  ah, video blogging week, when we used to have fun, hold hands, dream
  of a better tommorrow and sing a little song called video blogging
  week
 
  http://blip.tv/file/get/Joshleo-anOdeToVideobloggingWeek2006751.mov
 
  yes, I long for days such as these.Oh, how my heart aches for the
  simple days of vlogging before money, power and fame, before shows,
  beforeoh the hell with it.. Rock on, what's the theme? ;)
 
  Heath
  http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo joshleo@ wrote:
  
   It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007
   April 1-7 2007
  
   prepare yourselves!
  
   --
   Josh Leo
  
   www.JoshLeo.com
   www.WanderingWestMichigan.com
  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace

2007-03-07 Thread sull
David,

Steve W. pointed out a thread from last summer (also initiated by Peter).
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/47091

It doesnt have to be an either/or scenario.  Though it certainly can be for
some.
I have always said to use the YouTubesque services to your benefit if needed
and to also maintain your own controllable space (site/blog/domain).
Everyone is different and most people on this list, at least i can assume,
DO have their own sites and do not only rely on any service, not even blip.
It is a mix of being more serious, dedicated, savvy and adoptive of
grassroots type of technologies.
I dont know of anyone here who only has a myspace page, a youtube profile
and a flickr account.
Most take it the next level.

sull

On 07 Mar 2007 12:31:26 -0800, David King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Carter (I think) said:

  But if I want to have conversations using video content as the
  starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube.

 Help me out here - why is it an either/or thing with using Youtube for
 conversations? I'm not getting that. Because Youtube works basically the
 same as any other video hosting service - you can still embed your youtube
 videos on your real blog, and basically ignore the youtube part of it. You
 still get your videoblog's rss feed, and you still get your videoblog's
 comments...

 Other than the video ownership thing and downloading, what's the diff?

 david

 So you can still do rss


 On 3/7/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] steve%40dvmachine.com
 wrote:
 
  Cheers. I think I still use the hammer too much myself, even though I
  have other tools available!
 
  Youtube was not the obvious candidate in my mind when talking about
  video conversations here in the past, but as they have a critical mass
  of users, and at some point added the video responses feature, it was
  the first big instance Id seen of this stuff actually happening.
 
  Forums/messageboards were where I cut my net communications teeth in
  text, and so Ive ocasionally waffled here about how I wanted to see
  video fused with the messageboard way of things. I wondered how it
  would be done, whether people would actually use it. Im still
  wondering because things havent reached that stage yet, but at least
  there are a few services out there such as yours, and youtube has at
  least stuck its toe into the water.
 
  Anyway I would like to think that there'd have been more people
  joining in this conversation if it were happenign a year or 2 ago, I
  dunoo, it seems harder to have a long conversation about what features
  people dream of these days, perhaps because people basic needs are
  already satisfied. All the same I hope there are actually a mass of
  people passionately excited about all these sorts of alternative 
  extra uses for video on the net. I like shows and everything else
  thats happening but I yearn for the days when there was a chance that
  any day you coudl logon and find some individual has created some
  funky tool, that whilst primitive shows the potential of the future.
  It felt like there were no frontiers, now much talk seems to centre
  around re-crossing the frontiers that the mass media previously filled
  with concrete, but I fear far too much replication of TV and the old
  ways, leading to mothing different enough to truly stir my passions.
 
  Anyway I definately agree with others that its pretty essential that
  your comment system be built into the embedded player.
 
  Cheers
 
  Steve Elbows
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
  caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Steve,
   Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts in
   finding differences.
  
   I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in your
   kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a
  nail.
  
   As someone spending a great deal of time thinking about how to build
   social tools, I'm perhaps all too quick to criticize YouTube's hammer
   (in this case, their comment feature). In doing this, I'm not about
   to criticize content creators who use YouTube for what it does best:
   getting video up on the web and available to a massively large
   potential audience. I put things on YouTube when that is my goal.
   When I want to have more control over my files, and need to use the
   content in many different ways, I've found blip.tv to be an
   indispensible tool.
  
   But if I want to have conversations using video content as the
   starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube. This is partly because
   of an admittedly snobbish opinion of the quality of conversation
   taking place there, but it's also because I don't think the commenting
   system they have deployed is good for much else beyond the quick
   drive-by style comment. This snobbery does not extend to content
   creators, though.
  
   And while I'm making admissions, I will 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007

2007-03-07 Thread Josh Leo
promotional images:
use these in blog posts etc...

banner:
http://wearethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlogweek07banner.gif

squarish logo:
http://wearethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlogweek07logo.gif

link to the We Are The Media post and be ready for updates in the next few
days/weeks!

On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Elbows, I BEG you to videoblog this videobloggingweek.

 Don't edit too much or muck about. Just post 30 seconds of something
 every day.

 FEEL THE FEAR/APATHY/INDIFFERENCE AND DO IT ANYWAY!
 :-))


 On 7 Mar 2007, at 20:36, Steve Watkins wrote:

 Shows arent going anywhere but we could always run away from them.
 Come burn your wallets and come with me, to a land where conversation
 is the currency, to a dimension unburdened by the compromises tat cash
 forces on humans.

 Hmm proably needs a snappier title if Im going to sell that as a
 possible theme for the week ;)

 Selling out is a persona thing, as you are only selling yourself short
 of previously held ideals. I havent vlogged properly so I cant look
 back and judge myself of 2.5 years ago to see how much Ive
 compromised, my vlog is pure by not existing lol.

 So anyway Im in no position to get up on some moral mountain and start
 preeching but what the heck, the terrible shame is that potentially
 those most passiante about vlogging could 'sell out' the most, because
 they are more likely to want to do it fulltime and thats where money
 becomes a real pressing issue, inviting compromise into your heart and
 seeing if you can live with the self-imposed restraints on freedom
 that almost all financial relationships bring in one way or another.

 Meanwhile I sell out in a different way, by keeping the day job which
 feeds me but robs me of the time necessary to do what I actually want
 to do with video, ie something, anything. Obvously I could save hours
 a day b not talking here, and use that to vlog, but as I havent
 managed to do that in 2.5 years its more likely to happen if my dayjob
 comes to a crashing end. So you never know I could participate in vlog
 week this year if I go insane (or get sane) and resign, but my credit
 card balance tells me Ive imprisoned myself for years to come.

 Cheers

 Steve Elbows.
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  ah, video blogging week, when we used to have fun, hold hands, dream
  of a better tommorrow and sing a little song called video blogging
  week
 
  http://blip.tv/file/get/Joshleo-anOdeToVideobloggingWeek2006751.mov
 
  yes, I long for days such as these.Oh, how my heart aches for the
  simple days of vlogging before money, power and fame, before shows,
  beforeoh the hell with it.. Rock on, what's the theme? ;)
 
  Heath
  http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Josh Leo joshleo@ wrote:
  
   It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007
   April 1-7 2007
  
   prepare yourselves!
  
   --
   Josh Leo
  
   www.JoshLeo.com
   www.WanderingWestMichigan.com
  
  
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Josh Leo

www.JoshLeo.com
www.WanderingWestMichigan.com


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007

2007-03-07 Thread Josh Leo
images with dates:

banner:
http://wearethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlogweek_07banner.gif
square:
http://wearethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlogweek_07logo.gif

On 3/7/07, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 promotional images:
 use these in blog posts etc...

 banner:
 http://wearethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlogweek07banner.gif

 squarish logo:
 http://wearethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlogweek07logo.gif

 link to the We Are The Media post and be ready for updates in the next few
 days/weeks!

 On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Elbows, I BEG you to videoblog this videobloggingweek.
 
  Don't edit too much or muck about. Just post 30 seconds of something
  every day.
 
  FEEL THE FEAR/APATHY/INDIFFERENCE AND DO IT ANYWAY!
  :-))
 
 
  On 7 Mar 2007, at 20:36, Steve Watkins wrote:
 
  Shows arent going anywhere but we could always run away from them.
  Come burn your wallets and come with me, to a land where conversation
  is the currency, to a dimension unburdened by the compromises tat cash
  forces on humans.
 
  Hmm proably needs a snappier title if Im going to sell that as a
  possible theme for the week ;)
 
  Selling out is a persona thing, as you are only selling yourself short
  of previously held ideals. I havent vlogged properly so I cant look
  back and judge myself of 2.5 years ago to see how much Ive
  compromised, my vlog is pure by not existing lol.
 
  So anyway Im in no position to get up on some moral mountain and start
  preeching but what the heck, the terrible shame is that potentially
  those most passiante about vlogging could 'sell out' the most, because
  they are more likely to want to do it fulltime and thats where money
  becomes a real pressing issue, inviting compromise into your heart and
  seeing if you can live with the self-imposed restraints on freedom
  that almost all financial relationships bring in one way or another.
 
  Meanwhile I sell out in a different way, by keeping the day job which
  feeds me but robs me of the time necessary to do what I actually want
  to do with video, ie something, anything. Obvously I could save hours
  a day b not talking here, and use that to vlog, but as I havent
  managed to do that in 2.5 years its more likely to happen if my dayjob
  comes to a crashing end. So you never know I could participate in vlog
  week this year if I go insane (or get sane) and resign, but my credit
  card balance tells me Ive imprisoned myself for years to come.
 
  Cheers
 
  Steve Elbows.
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
  Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   ah, video blogging week, when we used to have fun, hold hands, dream
   of a better tommorrow and sing a little song called video blogging
   week
  
   http://blip.tv/file/get/Joshleo-anOdeToVideobloggingWeek2006751.mov
  
   yes, I long for days such as these.Oh, how my heart aches for the
   simple days of vlogging before money, power and fame, before shows,
   beforeoh the hell with it.. Rock on, what's the theme? ;)
  
   Heath
   http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
  Josh Leo joshleo@ wrote:
   
It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007
April 1-7 2007
   
prepare yourselves!
   
--
Josh Leo
   
www.JoshLeo.com
www.WanderingWestMichigan.com
   
   
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 www.JoshLeo.com
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www.JoshLeo.com
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[videoblogging] Re: crowdabout.us (was blog vs youtube myspace)

2007-03-07 Thread caroosky
Wow.  Thanks, Mike.  That's just the sort of reasoned,
insider/developer sorts of comments I had hoped to be able to get from
this forum, and one of many reasons I'm thrilled to be involved here.
Just awesome.

(I just deleted about three paragraphs here that, had I sent the
message, would have given you an almost thorough look into our
strategic plans for the near future.  I decided, after a bite to eat,
that it wasn't wise to let the cat out of the bag just yet.  So I will
exercise restraint as the better part of valor, and simply say instead
that we are working hard to change forever the way podcasters and
vloggers publish.)

Any additional feedback from anyone using CrowdAbout.us would be MOST
welcome and appreciated.  Thanks again, Mike!

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is the most interesting bit of conversation I've read in a while.
 
 I'm spent but I wanted to just say this.
 
 The trick with time based commenting is to make it live in the
 ecosystem... NOT just on crowdabout.us.
 
 I love the idea of the embedded player. Watch the video and make time
 based comments right in the blog.
 
 I'll go one further thought.
 
 This is just off the top of my head but Crowdabout.us could then post
 that time based comment BACK to the comments in the bloggers own page
 so that the time based comments could be followed not ONLY in the
 flash widget, but would be a PART of the established comments section.
 
 The key would be...
 
 a) gaining access to the blogger, MT, and Wordpress API's by allowing
 crowdabout.us users to claim their blog.
 
 b) developing a light semantic markup or microformat for leaving time
 based comments from crowdabout.us IN the comments on blogs.  This
 would ensure that all the crowdabout.us metadata would be syndicated
 wherever the conversation went... blog post to blog post... and
 comment to comment across the web... ultimately creating more value
 throughout the space and driving more traffic and attention back to
 crowdabout.us.  It's like mybloglog and their widget, or co.comments
 and their bookmarklet's and widgets.  Hundreds of web2.0 companies use
 similar mechanisms.
 
 Oh... and...
 
 c) perhaps I overlooked the obvious, but if crowdabout.us doesn't
 already have it before even the two forementioned items crowdabout.us
 should provide easy re-blogging by hooking into the main blogging
 platforms API's.  I should be able to click re-blog this while
 looking at any video on crowdabout.us and add reblog a video right
 from a specific time and leave my comments on my blog.
 
 Just day dreaming.
 
 Peace,
 
 -Mike
 mefeedia.com
 mmeiser.com/blog
 
 On 3/6/07, caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote:
  
   Carter,
  
   I'm loving crowdabout.  I've uploaded my videos and added time-based
   comments.  Brilliant.  I see what you mean about the authorship of
   comments being clear.  And I see a few people from this list have
   signed up today.
 
  Hey Rupert!
  The feeling is mutual; I saw your Big Shave video on CrowdAbout and
  loved it!
  
   For my latest post on my blog, I replaced my Blip player with a
   crowdabout embedded 'slim' player just to see.  Looks nice.  But
   could you also provide an embeddable player that shows the timeline
   comments, perhaps showing the text of comments as a semi-opaque
   overlay on top of the video?  I would be happy to have a bigger
   player for this - isn't that what the Innertoob player did? (i've
   been reading your blog)  Even if it meant that when people wanted to
   add comments themselves, they were taken to the crowdabout site,
   that'd be fine - just seems to be missing the obvious to have an
   embedded crowdabout player without crowdabout's big feature. 
There's
   a balance to be played between giving people incentives to put
you on
   their blogs and making people use the crowdabout website.
 
  Yeah, you have hit upon the biggest area of decision waffling we have
  going right now - the embeddable player.  I just don't think we are
  going to strike a balance that makes everyone happy with it, to be
  honest.  Some people have definite size/design requirements when
  selecting a player for their site.  But since at heart we aren't just
  another player (we're a commenting system and a social community), it
  would make more sense to get those comments into the embedded player.
   But if we try to do both (keep it small AND add the comments)
  suddenly it starts to overwhelm the content.  And we would be foolish
  to EVER think that our system's capabilities supercedes a vlogger's
  content.
 
  So our decision (for now, but we are incredibly open to suggestions)
  was to leave the player as the content display widget, with a comment
  button that would allow a viewer to to make the leap into
  participation.  Keeping these two functions somewhat separate (viewing
  and participating) seems to be the best compromise.
 
  

Re: [videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007

2007-03-07 Thread ryanne hodson
this will be the 4th videoblogging week!

the 1st:
http://www.solitude.dk/archives/vog-week/

the 2nd:

http://videobloggingweek2005.blogspot.com/

the 3rd:
http://videobloggingweek2006.blogspot.com/


On 3/7/07, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   images with dates:

 banner:
 http://wearethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlogweek_07banner.gif
 square:
 http://wearethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlogweek_07logo.gif


 On 3/7/07, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] joshleo%40gmail.com wrote:
 
  promotional images:
  use these in blog posts etc...
 
  banner:
  http://wearethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlogweek07banner.gif
 
  squarish logo:
  http://wearethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlogweek07logo.gif
 
  link to the We Are The Media post and be ready for updates in the next
 few
  days/weeks!
 
  On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org
 wrote:
  
   Elbows, I BEG you to videoblog this videobloggingweek.
  
   Don't edit too much or muck about. Just post 30 seconds of something
   every day.
  
   FEEL THE FEAR/APATHY/INDIFFERENCE AND DO IT ANYWAY!
   :-))
  
  
   On 7 Mar 2007, at 20:36, Steve Watkins wrote:
  
   Shows arent going anywhere but we could always run away from them.
   Come burn your wallets and come with me, to a land where conversation
   is the currency, to a dimension unburdened by the compromises tat cash
   forces on humans.
  
   Hmm proably needs a snappier title if Im going to sell that as a
   possible theme for the week ;)
  
   Selling out is a persona thing, as you are only selling yourself short
   of previously held ideals. I havent vlogged properly so I cant look
   back and judge myself of 2.5 years ago to see how much Ive
   compromised, my vlog is pure by not existing lol.
  
   So anyway Im in no position to get up on some moral mountain and start
   preeching but what the heck, the terrible shame is that potentially
   those most passiante about vlogging could 'sell out' the most, because
   they are more likely to want to do it fulltime and thats where money
   becomes a real pressing issue, inviting compromise into your heart and
   seeing if you can live with the self-imposed restraints on freedom
   that almost all financial relationships bring in one way or another.
  
   Meanwhile I sell out in a different way, by keeping the day job which
   feeds me but robs me of the time necessary to do what I actually want
   to do with video, ie something, anything. Obvously I could save hours
   a day b not talking here, and use that to vlog, but as I havent
   managed to do that in 2.5 years its more likely to happen if my dayjob
   comes to a crashing end. So you never know I could participate in vlog
   week this year if I go insane (or get sane) and resign, but my credit
   card balance tells me Ive imprisoned myself for years to come.
  
   Cheers
  
   Steve Elbows.
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
   videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
   Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
ah, video blogging week, when we used to have fun, hold hands, dream
of a better tommorrow and sing a little song called video blogging
week
   
http://blip.tv/file/get/Joshleo-anOdeToVideobloggingWeek2006751.mov
   
yes, I long for days such as these.Oh, how my heart aches for
 the
simple days of vlogging before money, power and fame, before shows,
beforeoh the hell with it.. Rock on, what's the theme? ;)
   
Heath
http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com
   
--- In 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
   Josh Leo joshleo@ wrote:

 It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007
 April 1-7 2007

 prepare yourselves!

 --
 Josh Leo

 www.JoshLeo.com
 www.WanderingWestMichigan.com


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  --
  Josh Leo
 
  www.JoshLeo.com
  www.WanderingWestMichigan.com
 

 --
 Josh Leo

 www.JoshLeo.com
 www.WanderingWestMichigan.com

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace

2007-03-07 Thread Rupert
I think the key is that what Carter was talking about (i'm putting  
words in his mouth here) was choosing a model for conversations  
between people, and I guess he particularly mentioned video  
comments.  Looking at the way they do it in crowdabout, as a back   
forth thing, with audio video and text all part of the same block,  
they've chosen a very different model from the YouTube thing, which  
is very much more a hitrun text comment thing, with a tacked on  
videocomment thing encouraging a short attention span, often used by  
people trying to get views from more popular sites, and less  about  
conversations.  (in my limited experience).
there seem to be more comments on YouTube than there are on most  
standalone vlogs - which is great.  whether it's a conversation and a  
lasting connection is another matter.  someone more experienced in  
building YouTube relationships should comment.  (Only there aren't  
any here, because they think we hate them... lol)


On 7 Mar 2007, at 20:31, David King wrote:

Carter (I think) said:

  But if I want to have conversations using video content as the
  starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube.

Help me out here - why is it an either/or thing with using Youtube for
conversations? I'm not getting that. Because Youtube works basically the
same as any other video hosting service - you can still embed your  
youtube
videos on your real blog, and basically ignore the youtube part of  
it. You
still get your videoblog's rss feed, and you still get your videoblog's
comments...

Other than the video ownership thing and downloading, what's the diff?

david

So you can still do rss

On 3/7/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Cheers. I think I still use the hammer too much myself, even though I
  have other tools available!
 
  Youtube was not the obvious candidate in my mind when talking about
  video conversations here in the past, but as they have a critical  
mass
  of users, and at some point added the video responses feature, it was
  the first big instance Id seen of this stuff actually happening.
 
  Forums/messageboards were where I cut my net communications teeth in
  text, and so Ive ocasionally waffled here about how I wanted to see
  video fused with the messageboard way of things. I wondered how it
  would be done, whether people would actually use it. Im still
  wondering because things havent reached that stage yet, but at least
  there are a few services out there such as yours, and youtube has at
  least stuck its toe into the water.
 
  Anyway I would like to think that there'd have been more people
  joining in this conversation if it were happenign a year or 2 ago, I
  dunoo, it seems harder to have a long conversation about what  
features
  people dream of these days, perhaps because people basic needs are
  already satisfied. All the same I hope there are actually a mass of
  people passionately excited about all these sorts of alternative 
  extra uses for video on the net. I like shows and everything else
  thats happening but I yearn for the days when there was a chance that
  any day you coudl logon and find some individual has created some
  funky tool, that whilst primitive shows the potential of the future.
  It felt like there were no frontiers, now much talk seems to centre
  around re-crossing the frontiers that the mass media previously  
filled
  with concrete, but I fear far too much replication of TV and the old
  ways, leading to mothing different enough to truly stir my passions.
 
  Anyway I definately agree with others that its pretty essential that
  your comment system be built into the embedded player.
 
  Cheers
 
  Steve Elbows
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging% 
40yahoogroups.com,
  caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Steve,
   Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts in
   finding differences.
  
   I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in  
your
   kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a
  nail.
  
   As someone spending a great deal of time thinking about how to  
build
   social tools, I'm perhaps all too quick to criticize YouTube's  
hammer
   (in this case, their comment feature). In doing this, I'm not about
   to criticize content creators who use YouTube for what it does  
best:
   getting video up on the web and available to a massively large
   potential audience. I put things on YouTube when that is my goal.
   When I want to have more control over my files, and need to use the
   content in many different ways, I've found blip.tv to be an
   indispensible tool.
  
   But if I want to have conversations using video content as the
   starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube. This is partly because
   of an admittedly snobbish opinion of the quality of conversation
   taking place there, but it's also because I don't think the  
commenting
   system they have deployed is good for much else beyond 

[videoblogging] Next New Networks gets some love from Business Week.com

2007-03-07 Thread Sean Bohan
some news I found on BW

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2007/tc20070307_104759.htm


By pulling together elements of video blogging, audience submissions, and a
big dollop of branding, the ad-supported N3 plans over the next three years
to build a network of 100 super-niche channels on everything from news to
pets. To start, this new Internet take on the TV studio system—N3 launches
on Mar. 8—will feature six channels on subjects ranging from do-it-yourself
clothing to comic book news.

these guys do my favorite auto videoblog VOD Cars
-- 

Sean W. Bohan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.seanbohan.com


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[videoblogging] France Bans Citizen Journalists from Reporting Violence...please digg:)

2007-03-07 Thread Sarah Szalavitz
Hey,

Have you heard that France is trying to ban citizen journalism?  Its 
unbelievably draconian...


My college roommate wrote this--and I'd love for y'all to read it (and weep 
unfortunately) and digg it!

http://www.digg.com/politics/France_Bans_Citizen_Journalists_from_Reporting_Violence_Makes_US_Look_Good


Thanks!

cheers,
Sarah



From: David King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube  myspace
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:24:12 -0600

That's what I think, too - so that's cool. I'm so completely amazed that
this is still so new - what will it look like in 2008?

Who knows - but it'll sure be fun to see.

David

On 3/7/07, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
David,
 
  Steve W. pointed out a thread from last summer (also initiated by 
Peter).
  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/47091
 
  It doesnt have to be an either/or scenario. Though it certainly can be 
for
  some.
  I have always said to use the YouTubesque services to your benefit if
  needed
  and to also maintain your own controllable space (site/blog/domain).
  Everyone is different and most people on this list, at least i can 
assume,
  DO have their own sites and do not only rely on any service, not even
  blip.
  It is a mix of being more serious, dedicated, savvy and adoptive of
  grassroots type of technologies.
  I dont know of anyone here who only has a myspace page, a youtube 
profile
  and a flickr account.
  Most take it the next level.
 
  sull
 
  On 07 Mar 2007 12:31:26 -0800, David King 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]davidleeking%40gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   Carter (I think) said:
  
But if I want to have conversations using video content as the
starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube.
  
   Help me out here - why is it an either/or thing with using Youtube for
   conversations? I'm not getting that. Because Youtube works basically 
the
   same as any other video hosting service - you can still embed your
  youtube
   videos on your real blog, and basically ignore the youtube part of it.
  You
   still get your videoblog's rss feed, and you still get your 
videoblog's
   comments...
  
   Other than the video ownership thing and downloading, what's the diff?
  
   david
  
   So you can still do rss
  
  
   On 3/7/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
steve%40dvmachine.comsteve%40dvmachine.com
   wrote:
   
Cheers. I think I still use the hammer too much myself, even though 
I
have other tools available!
   
Youtube was not the obvious candidate in my mind when talking about
video conversations here in the past, but as they have a critical 
mass
of users, and at some point added the video responses feature, it 
was
the first big instance Id seen of this stuff actually happening.
   
Forums/messageboards were where I cut my net communications teeth in
text, and so Ive ocasionally waffled here about how I wanted to see
video fused with the messageboard way of things. I wondered how it
would be done, whether people would actually use it. Im still
wondering because things havent reached that stage yet, but at least
there are a few services out there such as yours, and youtube has at
least stuck its toe into the water.
   
Anyway I would like to think that there'd have been more people
joining in this conversation if it were happenign a year or 2 ago, I
dunoo, it seems harder to have a long conversation about what 
features
people dream of these days, perhaps because people basic needs are
already satisfied. All the same I hope there are actually a mass of
people passionately excited about all these sorts of alternative 
extra uses for video on the net. I like shows and everything else
thats happening but I yearn for the days when there was a chance 
that
any day you coudl logon and find some individual has created some
funky tool, that whilst primitive shows the potential of the future.
It felt like there were no frontiers, now much talk seems to centre
around re-crossing the frontiers that the mass media previously 
filled
with concrete, but I fear far too much replication of TV and the old
ways, leading to mothing different enough to truly stir my passions.
   
Anyway I definately agree with others that its pretty essential that
your comment system be built into the embedded player.
   
Cheers
   
Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Steve,
 Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts 
in
 finding differences.

 I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in 
your
 kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a
nail.

 As someone spending a 

Re: [videoblogging] France Bans Citizen Journalists from Reporting Violence...please digg:)

2007-03-07 Thread Loiez D.
Will never surrender ;-)

Loiez ( from France)
be continued


Le 7 mars 07 à 22:57, Sarah Szalavitz a écrit :

 Hey,

 Have you heard that France is trying to ban citizen journalism?  Its
 unbelievably draconian...


 My college roommate wrote this--and I'd love for y'all to read it  
 (and weep
 unfortunately) and digg it!

 http://www.digg.com/politics/ 
 France_Bans_Citizen_Journalists_from_Reporting_Violence_Makes_US_Look_ 
 Good


 Thanks!

 cheers,
 Sarah



 From: David King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube  myspace
 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:24:12 -0600

 That's what I think, too - so that's cool. I'm so completely  
 amazed that
 this is still so new - what will it look like in 2008?

 Who knows - but it'll sure be fun to see.

 David

 On 3/7/07, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   David,

 Steve W. pointed out a thread from last summer (also initiated by
 Peter).
 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/47091

 It doesnt have to be an either/or scenario. Though it certainly  
 can be
 for
 some.
 I have always said to use the YouTubesque services to your  
 benefit if
 needed
 and to also maintain your own controllable space (site/blog/domain).
 Everyone is different and most people on this list, at least i can
 assume,
 DO have their own sites and do not only rely on any service, not  
 even
 blip.
 It is a mix of being more serious, dedicated, savvy and adoptive of
 grassroots type of technologies.
 I dont know of anyone here who only has a myspace page, a youtube
 profile
 and a flickr account.
 Most take it the next level.

 sull

 On 07 Mar 2007 12:31:26 -0800, David King
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]davidleeking%40gmail.com
 wrote:

 Carter (I think) said:

 But if I want to have conversations using video content as the
 starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube.

 Help me out here - why is it an either/or thing with using  
 Youtube for
 conversations? I'm not getting that. Because Youtube works  
 basically
 the
 same as any other video hosting service - you can still embed your
 youtube
 videos on your real blog, and basically ignore the youtube part  
 of it.
 You
 still get your videoblog's rss feed, and you still get your
 videoblog's
 comments...

 Other than the video ownership thing and downloading, what's the  
 diff?

 david

 So you can still do rss


 On 3/7/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 steve%40dvmachine.comsteve%40dvmachine.com
 wrote:

 Cheers. I think I still use the hammer too much myself, even  
 though
 I
 have other tools available!

 Youtube was not the obvious candidate in my mind when talking  
 about
 video conversations here in the past, but as they have a critical
 mass
 of users, and at some point added the video responses feature, it
 was
 the first big instance Id seen of this stuff actually happening.

 Forums/messageboards were where I cut my net communications  
 teeth in
 text, and so Ive ocasionally waffled here about how I wanted to  
 see
 video fused with the messageboard way of things. I wondered how it
 would be done, whether people would actually use it. Im still
 wondering because things havent reached that stage yet, but at  
 least
 there are a few services out there such as yours, and youtube  
 has at
 least stuck its toe into the water.

 Anyway I would like to think that there'd have been more people
 joining in this conversation if it were happenign a year or 2  
 ago, I
 dunoo, it seems harder to have a long conversation about what
 features
 people dream of these days, perhaps because people basic needs are
 already satisfied. All the same I hope there are actually a  
 mass of
 people passionately excited about all these sorts of alternative 
 extra uses for video on the net. I like shows and everything else
 thats happening but I yearn for the days when there was a chance
 that
 any day you coudl logon and find some individual has created some
 funky tool, that whilst primitive shows the potential of the  
 future.
 It felt like there were no frontiers, now much talk seems to  
 centre
 around re-crossing the frontiers that the mass media previously
 filled
 with concrete, but I fear far too much replication of TV and  
 the old
 ways, leading to mothing different enough to truly stir my  
 passions.

 Anyway I definately agree with others that its pretty essential  
 that
 your comment system be built into the embedded player.

 Cheers

 Steve Elbows
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 
 40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Steve,
 Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts
 in
 finding differences.

 I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in
 your
 kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look  
 like a
 nail.

 As someone spending a great deal of time thinking 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: I am quilty of shiny object distraction disorder or SODD

2007-03-07 Thread John Dowdell
Steve Watkins wrote:
 Adobe Apollo stuff would be of particular interest to me if I was
 already versed in Flash and/or Flex development. 

Sidenote: The Adobe Apollo project, due to enter preview release on 
labs.adobe.com real soon now, is a way to bring either SWF or HTML/JS 
work to the desktop... you browse to a site same as before, but it asks 
you if you'd like to use that page for offline use, system tray, 
doubleclickable, the works.

Doesn't require Flash or Flex skills... Ajax or even classic JS/webapp 
stuff works as well.

jd





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Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks.


[videoblogging] Test a video on you phone/handheld?

2007-03-07 Thread Adam Quirk
I'd be very grateful if anyone with a video-capable handheld or mobile
phone would be willing to test our site for me.  It's supposed to
detect that you're on a mobile and change the layout accordingly.  It
seems to work on my razr, but I just heard that it isn't working for
someone running Windows Mobile.

If you're up for it:

1. Visit wreckandsalvage.com from your phone/handheld
2. Tell me if you can see the site and/or one of the videos
3. Tell me what you're using, device/OS.

Muchas gracias.

-- 
Adam Quirk
Wreck  Salvage
551.208.4644
Brooklyn, NY
http://wreckandsalvage.com



Re: [videoblogging] Test a video on you phone/handheld?

2007-03-07 Thread Sean Bohan
I get a black screen - no video, no nothing

Windows Mobile running on a BlackJack (320x240 screen)

On 3/7/07, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I'd be very grateful if anyone with a video-capable handheld or mobile
 phone would be willing to test our site for me. It's supposed to
 detect that you're on a mobile and change the layout accordingly. It
 seems to work on my razr, but I just heard that it isn't working for
 someone running Windows Mobile.

 If you're up for it:

 1. Visit wreckandsalvage.com from your phone/handheld
 2. Tell me if you can see the site and/or one of the videos
 3. Tell me what you're using, device/OS.

 Muchas gracias.

 --
 Adam Quirk
 Wreck  Salvage
 551.208.4644
 Brooklyn, NY
 http://wreckandsalvage.com

  




-- 

Sean W. Bohan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.seanbohan.com


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[videoblogging] Re: Anyone mixing video and geolocation outside of Google Maps?

2007-03-07 Thread caroosky
All great ideas.  Keep them coming!

Best,
Carter
http://crowdabout.us


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks, Carter :D
 
 A built in option to leave map images would be great, if you can find  
 an easy way to plug in the Google Maps API.  Just giving the links  
 has been fun.
 
 Actually, maybe you don't even have to call the map image into the  
 frame.  I have dreamed (as I mentioned before) of a whole bunch of  
 different types of time-based icons  hotspots built into the player  
 - timeline based icons that appear at one side at specific times - an  
 icon that shows a map, another icon that opens an info page... a wide  
 selection of different icons that the author could choose from that  
 could represent all sorts of links/info - like the different icons in  
 Google Earth community posts that show whether a placemark is a  
 photo, video, blog entry, whatever.  Maybe these icons could be  
 something we can click and paste into the Time Post pane below the  
 player in Crowdabout.us - so that an author clicks on the icon he  
 wants, adds the URL and the viewer just sees a clickable icon as a  
 post/comment rather than all the longwinded text of the map URL like  
 I've done.  Rich, rich, rich!
 
 I've been leaving you audio comments in return to yours, talking into  
 my laptop while my wife stares at me as if I'm mad.  Love audio  
 comments.  Wish I had a Macbook with built in iSight so I could stare  
 at the lens while I talk.
 
 For anyone who feels mad talking into a lens as if you're talking to  
 a real person, I highly recommend http://www.zefrank.com today.  It's  
 genius.
 
 Rupert
 http://www.fatgirlinohio.org/
 http://www.crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/
 
 
 On 7 Mar 2007, at 19:17, caroosky wrote:
 
 
 
 Sounds very cool, Tony. I'm having problems with the link you
 provided, though, so I'll check back to see it in action later.
 
 Rupert (from this forum) is using google map links in the time-posts
 of his videos over at CrowdAbout.us. Poor guy is going to think I've
 started stalking him, but I was amazed and pleased to see just how
 immediate and contextual information like this is, when presented
 along with video, and how it helped to make the connection to the
 content and the creator more tangible. It's got me thinking we should
 even make it an option, and turn the link into the map display right
 in the post.
 
 Best,
 Carter Harkins
 http://crowdabout.us
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton marforton@ wrote:
  
  
   Select any video interview at the link below to see the feature at  
 work.
   Underneath the video that plays, you'll find a UI with the eight
   geographically closest videos in that same language.
  
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton marforton@ wrote:
   
   
This is my first post - been lurkig for a few months. Just a quick
question to see if anyone is doing any work in the area of online
   video
and geolocation outside of a Google Maps interface.
   
We've developed a beta UI feature that finds the geographically
   closest
videos based on some user derived context. In the case of our beta
functionality, the contexts are limited to video language and  
 location
of the selected video. A bit more coding would make almost any  
 context
driven filtering possible.
   
The feature works with any of our interviews found at
http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp
http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp . Choosing an interview from
Central America (Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua) will best  
 demonstrate
that the functionality works across national borders.
   
Thoughts on the functionality? Have others implemented similar
contextual functionality with video or working on integrating
geolocation with video outside of a Google maps interface?
   
Regards
   
Tony
   
   
   
   
   
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[videoblogging] Re: I am quilty of shiny object distraction disorder or SODD

2007-03-07 Thread Steve Watkins
Thanks very much for the info, I get plenty wrong when Im browsing
over this stuff. Well, the fact it works well with js etc makes it
seem even more that many players, large and small, are converging on
the same space. Like I said before, exciting times to be looing at web
develpment stuff, so much choice. Only problem is deciding at which
point I switch my time from studying all the options to actually
trying to pick one and create something with it.

I'll be sure to check it out when the preview comes, am now wondering
what potential offline browser mode has for video in particular.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Steve Watkins wrote:
  Adobe Apollo stuff would be of particular interest to me if I was
  already versed in Flash and/or Flex development. 
 
 Sidenote: The Adobe Apollo project, due to enter preview release on 
 labs.adobe.com real soon now, is a way to bring either SWF or HTML/JS 
 work to the desktop... you browse to a site same as before, but it asks 
 you if you'd like to use that page for offline use, system tray, 
 doubleclickable, the works.
 
 Doesn't require Flash or Flex skills... Ajax or even classic JS/webapp 
 stuff works as well.
 
 jd
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA
 Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd
 Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna
 Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/
 Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks.





[videoblogging] Re: Next New Networks gets some love from Business Week.com

2007-03-07 Thread Bill Cammack
I've checked out their Thread Heads http://www.threadbanger.com.

Cool stuff.

--
Bill C.
http://ReelSolid.TV


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sean Bohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 some news I found on BW
 

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2007/tc20070307_104759.htm
 
 
 By pulling together elements of video blogging, audience
submissions, and a
 big dollop of branding, the ad-supported N3 plans over the next
three years
 to build a network of 100 super-niche channels on everything from
news to
 pets. To start, this new Internet take on the TV studio systemâ€N3
launches
 on Mar. 8â€will feature six channels on subjects ranging from
do-it-yourself
 clothing to comic book news.
 
 these guys do my favorite auto videoblog VOD Cars
 -- 
 
 Sean W. Bohan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.seanbohan.com
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace

2007-03-07 Thread caroosky
Well, this is a personal preference, I guess.  I like quiet
restaurants when looking for a meeting place to discuss business or
more personal areas of life with old fiends (or new ones).  But give
me a noisy bar any day when all I want to do is watch the game or be
left alone.

YouTube is a public place on a busy street corner.  I look at the
pages of the site, the pages my videos are sometimes on, I look at the
neighboring videos sharing the same real estate, and I guess I just
have an aversion to placing things there that fall into the quiet
cafe category. 

Sometimes fostering discussion is my goal.  Sometimes risking a bit of
myself, reaching out for community is what I want.  In those times I
want to know that the environment I have so painstakingly created with
my content is not going to be wrecked when undesirable, loud neighbors
move in to the sidebar area.

My own vlog is like my home; on a public street, but under my control
entirely, and I want people to feel as comfortable there as they would
in their own home.

For everything else, there's YouTube.

(Does anyone else feel this way about selecting YouTube for only
certain things?)



Post-Script: the ownership and downloading issues you mentioned are
real, if making your content as free of hindrances is your goal. 
YouTube does not let me use my content as freely as Blip.tv (if we are
comparing the two for their hosting services).  I can't get an .flv
out of YouTube, but blip creates it for me and offers it to me and
others if I want.  With that kind of portability, I can now use other
services that require me to have that format, such as CrowdAbout or
other flash-based services).

Best,
Carter Harkins
http://crowdabout.us


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Carter (I think) said:
 
  But if I want to have conversations using video content as the
  starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube.
 
 Help me out here - why is it an either/or thing with using Youtube for
 conversations? I'm not getting that. Because Youtube works basically the
 same as any other video hosting service - you can still embed your
youtube
 videos on your real blog, and basically ignore the youtube part of
it. You
 still get your videoblog's rss feed, and you still get your videoblog's
 comments...
 
 Other than the video ownership thing and downloading, what's the diff?
 
 david
 
 So you can still do rss
 
 On 3/7/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Cheers. I think I still use the hammer too much myself, even
though I
  have other tools available!
 
  Youtube was not the obvious candidate in my mind when talking about
  video conversations here in the past, but as they have a critical mass
  of users, and at some point added the video responses feature, it was
  the first big instance Id seen of this stuff actually happening.
 
  Forums/messageboards were where I cut my net communications teeth in
  text, and so Ive ocasionally waffled here about how I wanted to see
  video fused with the messageboard way of things. I wondered how it
  would be done, whether people would actually use it. Im still
  wondering because things havent reached that stage yet, but at least
  there are a few services out there such as yours, and youtube has at
  least stuck its toe into the water.
 
  Anyway I would like to think that there'd have been more people
  joining in this conversation if it were happenign a year or 2 ago, I
  dunoo, it seems harder to have a long conversation about what features
  people dream of these days, perhaps because people basic needs are
  already satisfied. All the same I hope there are actually a mass of
  people passionately excited about all these sorts of alternative 
  extra uses for video on the net. I like shows and everything else
  thats happening but I yearn for the days when there was a chance that
  any day you coudl logon and find some individual has created some
  funky tool, that whilst primitive shows the potential of the future.
  It felt like there were no frontiers, now much talk seems to centre
  around re-crossing the frontiers that the mass media previously filled
  with concrete, but I fear far too much replication of TV and the old
  ways, leading to mothing different enough to truly stir my passions.
 
  Anyway I definately agree with others that its pretty essential that
  your comment system be built into the embedded player.
 
  Cheers
 
  Steve Elbows
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
  caroosky carter@ wrote:
  
   Steve,
   Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts in
   finding differences.
  
   I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in your
   kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a
  nail.
  
   As someone spending a great deal of time thinking about how to build
   social tools, I'm perhaps all too quick to criticize YouTube's
hammer
   (in this case, their 

Fwd: [videoblogging] Test a video on you phone/handheld?

2007-03-07 Thread Rupert
Nokia N93, running Opera Mobile and Flash 7 - I get to see the whole  
home page fine because Opera Mobile lets you see all the images as  
they should be and at various levels of zoom, but there's no Flash  
video of course (Opera only handles Flash 7) and when I click the  
Cellphone image/link nothing happens because it doesn't like the  
javascript.  I could download the Quicktime and Windows videos by  
clicking on them because they're direct links to the files on Blip.   
HTH. (Also, if I click the Cellphone link on my Mac Firefox, it  
freaks out and goes black and doesn't allow me to go back or anything  
- presumably the javascript swaps the CSS to a mobile.css or  
something, does it? A less stylish answer might be to have a direct  
link to the file and maybe even (sigh) a text link?  I love your  
design, by the way.)
Hope this helps
Rupert

On 7 Mar 2007, at 22:27, Adam Quirk wrote:

I'd be very grateful if anyone with a video-capable handheld or mobile
phone would be willing to test our site for me. It's supposed to
detect that you're on a mobile and change the layout accordingly. It
seems to work on my razr, but I just heard that it isn't working for
someone running Windows Mobile.

If you're up for it:

1. Visit wreckandsalvage.com from your phone/handheld
2. Tell me if you can see the site and/or one of the videos
3. Tell me what you're using, device/OS.

Muchas gracias.

-- 
Adam Quirk
Wreck  Salvage
551.208.4644
Brooklyn, NY
http://wreckandsalvage.com





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[videoblogging] Re: Test a video on you phone/handheld?

2007-03-07 Thread Lan Bui
While it was loading I was text for everything. After it loaded
everything disappeared to a black screen with just a white 1 pixel bar
across the top. It took over a minute to load because I am using EDGE
on the cingular network (slow speed) and the page was over 300k. Have
you thought about having less stuff on it (once it works)?

Treo 650/Palm OS 5

-Lan



[videoblogging] Re: Anyone mixing video and geolocation outside of Google Maps?

2007-03-07 Thread marforton

Our feature grew out of the fact that the Google map geocoder only works
in a few countries (none in Latin America to be precise). Since the
issue is only with geocoding and  Google Maps accepts any lat/long, we
started by writing our own Geocoder.

Once we had the geocoder done, we realized that every object or piece of
content in our database could be made geo-aware in a way that we would
not need the Google interface.  We could build any interface that we
desired to display the relationships among geo-aware content.  The
contextual filtering for video is the first example that we built.

Our examples at http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp
http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp  use other videos (again, select
any interview and look under the video for the eight most geographically
close videos in the same language - the videos from central america work
best because national borders are often crossed).  It would be just as
easy to limit the search radius and recommend to the user other forms of
local geo-aware content in a specific area (articles, reviews, podcasts,
videos, anything).  If I select one thing as a user, I can be also
exposed to everything else in that area in a relatively unobtrusive way.

Thoughts?

Tony


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All great ideas. Keep them coming!

 Best,
 Carter
 http://crowdabout.us


 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote:
 
  Thanks, Carter :D
 
  A built in option to leave map images would be great, if you can
find
  an easy way to plug in the Google Maps API. Just giving the links
  has been fun.
 
  Actually, maybe you don't even have to call the map image into the
  frame. I have dreamed (as I mentioned before) of a whole bunch of
  different types of time-based icons  hotspots built into the player
  - timeline based icons that appear at one side at specific times -
an
  icon that shows a map, another icon that opens an info page... a
wide
  selection of different icons that the author could choose from that
  could represent all sorts of links/info - like the different icons
in
  Google Earth community posts that show whether a placemark is a
  photo, video, blog entry, whatever. Maybe these icons could be
  something we can click and paste into the Time Post pane below the
  player in Crowdabout.us - so that an author clicks on the icon he
  wants, adds the URL and the viewer just sees a clickable icon as a
  post/comment rather than all the longwinded text of the map URL like
  I've done. Rich, rich, rich!
 
  I've been leaving you audio comments in return to yours, talking
into
  my laptop while my wife stares at me as if I'm mad. Love audio
  comments. Wish I had a Macbook with built in iSight so I could stare
  at the lens while I talk.
 
  For anyone who feels mad talking into a lens as if you're talking to
  a real person, I highly recommend http://www.zefrank.com today. It's
  genius.
 
  Rupert
  http://www.fatgirlinohio.org/
  http://www.crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/
 
 
  On 7 Mar 2007, at 19:17, caroosky wrote:
 
 
 
  Sounds very cool, Tony. I'm having problems with the link you
  provided, though, so I'll check back to see it in action later.
 
  Rupert (from this forum) is using google map links in the time-posts
  of his videos over at CrowdAbout.us. Poor guy is going to think I've
  started stalking him, but I was amazed and pleased to see just how
  immediate and contextual information like this is, when presented
  along with video, and how it helped to make the connection to the
  content and the creator more tangible. It's got me thinking we
should
  even make it an option, and turn the link into the map display right
  in the post.
 
  Best,
  Carter Harkins
  http://crowdabout.us
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton marforton@
wrote:
  
  
   Select any video interview at the link below to see the feature at
  work.
   Underneath the video that plays, you'll find a UI with the eight
   geographically closest videos in that same language.
  
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton marforton@
wrote:
   
   
This is my first post - been lurkig for a few months. Just a
quick
question to see if anyone is doing any work in the area of
online
   video
and geolocation outside of a Google Maps interface.
   
We've developed a beta UI feature that finds the geographically
   closest
videos based on some user derived context. In the case of our
beta
functionality, the contexts are limited to video language and
  location
of the selected video. A bit more coding would make almost any
  context
driven filtering possible.
   
The feature works with any of our interviews found at
http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp
http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp . Choosing an interview
from
Central America (Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua) will best
  demonstrate
that the functionality works across national 

[videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace

2007-03-07 Thread caroosky
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Anyway I would like to think that there'd have been more people
 joining in this conversation if it were happenign a year or 2 ago, I
 dunoo, it seems harder to have a long conversation about what features
 people dream of these days, perhaps because people basic needs are
 already satisfied. 

On the contrary, the reason we started CrowdAbout and built the
technology behind it is precisely because we heard content creators
who wanted a better experience for interacting with passive audiences
lulled into mass-media complacency, and who wanted to turn them into
engaged participants.

 
 Anyway I definately agree with others that its pretty essential that
 your comment system be built into the embedded player.
 
Duly noted, and thanks, Steve!

Best,
Carter Harkins
http://crowdabout.us


 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, caroosky carter@ wrote:
 
  Steve,
  Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts in
  finding differences.
  
  I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in your
  kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a
 nail.
  
  As someone spending a great deal of time thinking about how to build
  social tools, I'm perhaps all too quick to criticize YouTube's hammer
  (in this case, their comment feature).  In doing this, I'm not about
  to criticize content creators who use YouTube for what it does best:
  getting video up on the web and available to a massively large
  potential audience.  I put things on YouTube when that is my goal. 
  When I want to have more control over my files, and need to use the
  content in many different ways, I've found blip.tv to be an
  indispensible tool.
  
  But if I want to have conversations using video content as the
  starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube.  This is partly because
  of an admittedly snobbish opinion of the quality of conversation
  taking place there, but it's also because I don't think the commenting
  system they have deployed is good for much else beyond the quick
  drive-by style comment.  This snobbery does not extend to content
  creators, though.
  
  And while I'm making admissions, I will additionally confess that I am
  wildly idealistic about how our collective community of content
  creators can mold and shape the fabric of the internet, as well as the
  discussions taking place not only in this medium, but offline as well.
   But as a builder of tools, I try (although I probably don't
  always succeed) to just build something cool, and then let others tell
  me how they prefer to use it.  I am often surprised to learn the ways
  that people are using a tool for an advantage I never would have
  imagined in a hundred years.  The creativity of others is inspiring,
  to say the least.
  
  And much of that inspiration is viewable on YouTube.
  
  
  Best,
  Carter Harkins
  http://crowdabout.us
  
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote:
  
   There was some talk in this group about youtuber's that I
thought was
   a bit snobbish a while ago, because it made me rant, but it was
   probably only mild and it can be hard to seperate criticism of the
   service with those using it sometimes.
   
   But on a certain level I would not be surprised if the 'brand
   repputation' of youtube can heavily influence the reputation of
   someone posting there. I could forsee plenty of exceptions, a show
   that gets enough attention will be talked about in terms of itself,
   that its on youtube is incidental. And this just re-inforces the
fact
   that one off clips, copyrighted stuff, other popular 'viral' videos
   without a strong identity of their own are what will link most
   strongly to the word 'youtube'.
   
   If there is any snobbishness around, I suppose its bourn from some
   peoples high expectations and ideals about what videoblogging
would be
   used for. What I could describe as the 'liberal intellectual' wing 
   could understandably make such noises sometimes. Reminds me of
the old
   days of British broadcast television...
   
   First there was the BBC, which was (and remains) very paternalistic.
   Lots of corporate agenda's focussed on their role in society as a
   public service, and lots of intellectual thinking on how the medium
   could be used for the masses to better themselves. Resulting in lots
   of high-brow programming that could be a bit stuffy. 
   
   Then along came the first commercial channel, ITV, which didnt mind
   putting on lots of cheap popular entertainment, which got very high
   viewing figures, gave a lot of people what they wanted, but was
   regarded by the aforementioned BBC patriarch's as 'vulgar'. 
   
   I guess its not a new phenomenon, and 'class' still matters,
   unfortunately, no matter if everyone pretends it doesnt mean
anything
   anymore. vlogtellectuals vs youtube, bbc vs itv, music hall vs opera
   

[videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007

2007-03-07 Thread Mike Moon
WooHOo! 
I started vlogging the week after vlogging week last year. 
Hmmm, let's see... a can of red paint, a rusty old saw, 33 elder
people, a bale of hay, a car battery, a copy of Tom Jones greatest
hits, a rented tattoo artist, sheep shears and a gallon of chocolate
ice cream... yup, I'm ready.

Mike
http://vlog.mikemoon.net 

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007
 April 1-7 2007
 
 prepare yourselves!
 
 -- 
 Josh Leo
 
 www.JoshLeo.com
 www.WanderingWestMichigan.com
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Test a video on you phone/handheld?

2007-03-07 Thread Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage
Definitely going to have to find a different approach.

Thinking we're just going to link to this instead:
http://wreckandsalvage.com/mobile

Thanks for testing Lan.

On 3/7/07, Lan Bui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 While it was loading I was text for everything. After it loaded
 everything disappeared to a black screen with just a white 1 pixel bar
 across the top. It took over a minute to load because I am using EDGE
 on the cingular network (slow speed) and the page was over 300k. Have
 you thought about having less stuff on it (once it works)?

 Treo 650/Palm OS 5

 -Lan





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Adam Quirk
Wreck  Salvage
551.208.4644
Brooklyn, NY
http://wreckandsalvage.com


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Re: [videoblogging] Test a video on you phone/handheld?

2007-03-07 Thread Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage
Well, I took that javascript swap out because it's buggy as hell and just
went with different calls to CSS for handheld and Screen, with a capital
S in screen because if not Windows Mobile will try to display it (good
thinking MS!).

The two CSS import rules in the main page's header are still there, because
dammit it actually works on some handhelds and phones, like my razr.  But
since our site is very graphics-heavy, it's probably better for mobile users
to just use our http://wreckandsalvage.com/mobile site that I have now
re-linked to the Cellphone button on our front page.

Thanks for the design nod.


On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nokia N93, running Opera Mobile and Flash 7 - I get to see the whole
 home page fine because Opera Mobile lets you see all the images as
 they should be and at various levels of zoom, but there's no Flash
 video of course (Opera only handles Flash 7) and when I click the
 Cellphone image/link nothing happens because it doesn't like the
 javascript.  I could download the Quicktime and Windows videos by
 clicking on them because they're direct links to the files on Blip.
 HTH. (Also, if I click the Cellphone link on my Mac Firefox, it
 freaks out and goes black and doesn't allow me to go back or anything
 - presumably the javascript swaps the CSS to a mobile.css or
 something, does it? A less stylish answer might be to have a direct
 link to the file and maybe even (sigh) a text link?  I love your
 design, by the way.)
 Hope this helps
 Rupert

 On 7 Mar 2007, at 22:27, Adam Quirk wrote:

 I'd be very grateful if anyone with a video-capable handheld or mobile
 phone would be willing to test our site for me. It's supposed to
 detect that you're on a mobile and change the layout accordingly. It
 seems to work on my razr, but I just heard that it isn't working for
 someone running Windows Mobile.

 If you're up for it:

 1. Visit wreckandsalvage.com from your phone/handheld
 2. Tell me if you can see the site and/or one of the videos
 3. Tell me what you're using, device/OS.

 Muchas gracias.

 --
 Adam Quirk
 Wreck  Salvage
 551.208.4644
 Brooklyn, NY
 http://wreckandsalvage.com





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Wreck  Salvage
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Brooklyn, NY
http://wreckandsalvage.com


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007

2007-03-07 Thread Devlon Duthie
I wonder if technorati can keep up with y'all this time :) 

Anne and I had fun participating last year, but not sure if we'll 
contribute anything this year.

Thanks,
Devlon Duthie
http://devlonduthie.com -new and improved!

Find great independent video:
http://mefeedia.com



Mike Moon wrote:
 WooHOo! 
 I started vlogging the week after vlogging week last year. 
 Hmmm, let's see... a can of red paint, a rusty old saw, 33 elder
 people, a bale of hay, a car battery, a copy of Tom Jones greatest
 hits, a rented tattoo artist, sheep shears and a gallon of chocolate
 ice cream... yup, I'm ready.

 Mike
 http://vlog.mikemoon.net 

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007
 April 1-7 2007

 prepare yourselves!

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 www.JoshLeo.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Test a video on you phone/handheld?

2007-03-07 Thread Rupert
Great - yeah, that works for me now.  And I have wifi on N93 so I  
don't get the pain of slow loading (is there an emoticon for smug  
bastard?).  I don't know what the conventions/standards are, but do  
people use mobile. subdomains as well?
And another great video, by the way.  When it started, I didn't think  
it would hold me for the whole 5 mins with split screens and  
confusion, but it really did.  GRAN CAANYON!  Just out of interest,  
what did you use to cut it and split screen?  FCP?
Rupert

On 7 Mar 2007, at 23:44, Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage wrote:

Well, I took that javascript swap out because it's buggy as hell and  
just
went with different calls to CSS for handheld and Screen, with a  
capital
S in screen because if not Windows Mobile will try to display it  
(good
thinking MS!).

The two CSS import rules in the main page's header are still there,  
because
dammit it actually works on some handhelds and phones, like my razr. But
since our site is very graphics-heavy, it's probably better for  
mobile users
to just use our http://wreckandsalvage.com/mobile site that I have now
re-linked to the Cellphone button on our front page.

Thanks for the design nod.

On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Nokia N93, running Opera Mobile and Flash 7 - I get to see the whole
  home page fine because Opera Mobile lets you see all the images as
  they should be and at various levels of zoom, but there's no Flash
  video of course (Opera only handles Flash 7) and when I click the
  Cellphone image/link nothing happens because it doesn't like the
  javascript. I could download the Quicktime and Windows videos by
  clicking on them because they're direct links to the files on Blip.
  HTH. (Also, if I click the Cellphone link on my Mac Firefox, it
  freaks out and goes black and doesn't allow me to go back or anything
  - presumably the javascript swaps the CSS to a mobile.css or
  something, does it? A less stylish answer might be to have a direct
  link to the file and maybe even (sigh) a text link? I love your
  design, by the way.)
  Hope this helps
  Rupert
 
  On 7 Mar 2007, at 22:27, Adam Quirk wrote:
 
  I'd be very grateful if anyone with a video-capable handheld or  
mobile
  phone would be willing to test our site for me. It's supposed to
  detect that you're on a mobile and change the layout accordingly. It
  seems to work on my razr, but I just heard that it isn't working for
  someone running Windows Mobile.
 
  If you're up for it:
 
  1. Visit wreckandsalvage.com from your phone/handheld
  2. Tell me if you can see the site and/or one of the videos
  3. Tell me what you're using, device/OS.
 
  Muchas gracias.
 
  --
  Adam Quirk
  Wreck  Salvage
  551.208.4644
  Brooklyn, NY
  http://wreckandsalvage.com
 
 
 
 
 
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  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 

-- 
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Wreck  Salvage
551.208.4644
Brooklyn, NY
http://wreckandsalvage.com

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[videoblogging] Adding the cool map zooms to movies.

2007-03-07 Thread Jonathan Bloom
How do you add those cool map zooms and moves like what you see on
Rocketboom and Command N? Google Earth?

-- 
-Jonathan Bloom
http://thenameiwantedwastaken.com


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Re: [videoblogging] Test a video on you phone/handheld?

2007-03-07 Thread Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage
He uses FCP, I'm pretty sure.  But you'd have to ask Sr. Aaron Valdez, as he
is the mastermind behind the America, Your America! series on WS.

On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Great - yeah, that works for me now.  And I have wifi on N93 so I
 don't get the pain of slow loading (is there an emoticon for smug
 bastard?).  I don't know what the conventions/standards are, but do
 people use mobile. subdomains as well?
 And another great video, by the way.  When it started, I didn't think
 it would hold me for the whole 5 mins with split screens and
 confusion, but it really did.  GRAN CAANYON!  Just out of interest,
 what did you use to cut it and split screen?  FCP?
 Rupert

 On 7 Mar 2007, at 23:44, Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage wrote:

 Well, I took that javascript swap out because it's buggy as hell and
 just
 went with different calls to CSS for handheld and Screen, with a
 capital
 S in screen because if not Windows Mobile will try to display it
 (good
 thinking MS!).

 The two CSS import rules in the main page's header are still there,
 because
 dammit it actually works on some handhelds and phones, like my razr. But
 since our site is very graphics-heavy, it's probably better for
 mobile users
 to just use our http://wreckandsalvage.com/mobile site that I have now
 re-linked to the Cellphone button on our front page.

 Thanks for the design nod.

 On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Nokia N93, running Opera Mobile and Flash 7 - I get to see the whole
  home page fine because Opera Mobile lets you see all the images as
  they should be and at various levels of zoom, but there's no Flash
  video of course (Opera only handles Flash 7) and when I click the
  Cellphone image/link nothing happens because it doesn't like the
  javascript. I could download the Quicktime and Windows videos by
  clicking on them because they're direct links to the files on Blip.
  HTH. (Also, if I click the Cellphone link on my Mac Firefox, it
  freaks out and goes black and doesn't allow me to go back or anything
  - presumably the javascript swaps the CSS to a mobile.css or
  something, does it? A less stylish answer might be to have a direct
  link to the file and maybe even (sigh) a text link? I love your
  design, by the way.)
  Hope this helps
  Rupert
 
  On 7 Mar 2007, at 22:27, Adam Quirk wrote:
 
  I'd be very grateful if anyone with a video-capable handheld or
 mobile
  phone would be willing to test our site for me. It's supposed to
  detect that you're on a mobile and change the layout accordingly. It
  seems to work on my razr, but I just heard that it isn't working for
  someone running Windows Mobile.
 
  If you're up for it:
 
  1. Visit wreckandsalvage.com from your phone/handheld
  2. Tell me if you can see the site and/or one of the videos
  3. Tell me what you're using, device/OS.
 
  Muchas gracias.
 
  --
  Adam Quirk
  Wreck  Salvage
  551.208.4644
  Brooklyn, NY
  http://wreckandsalvage.com
 
 
 
 
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
 
 
 
 
  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 

 --
 Adam Quirk
 Wreck  Salvage
 551.208.4644
 Brooklyn, NY
 http://wreckandsalvage.com

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Wreck  Salvage
551.208.4644
Brooklyn, NY
http://wreckandsalvage.com


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Re: [videoblogging] Adding the cool map zooms to movies.

2007-03-07 Thread Roxanne Darling
I've used a combination of Google Earth and a screen capture software, SnapZPro.

Have fun!

Rox

On 3/7/07, Jonathan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






 How do you add those cool map zooms and moves like what you see on
  Rocketboom and Command N? Google Earth?

  --
  -Jonathan Bloom
  http://thenameiwantedwastaken.com

  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

  


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o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian
808-384-5554

http://www.beachwalks.tv
http://www.barefeetshop.com
http://www.barefeetstudios.com
http://www.inthetransition.com


[videoblogging] Re: if you plan it they will come(vloggercon)

2007-03-07 Thread hawaii_christian
How about Hawaii?  I can think of no better place :-)  We have plenty
of convention halls here and nice hotels, not to mention an awesome
set of beaches!

Becca in Hawaii

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, RANDY MANN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 vloggercon 3
 
 boston
 
 june
 
 
 more info to come
 
 
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[videoblogging] Video Search Is the Big Topic of '07

2007-03-07 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
http://adage.com/digitalreport030507/article?article_id=115428


Not a lot here but with crowdabout.us the current topic I thought this
was encouraging stuff for what you are doing.

Besides this one paragraph is worth reading the article for:
At one point, Ms. Schwartz chimed in, Why can't we all love each
other? To which moderator Mike Chapman, editorial director at
eMarketer, quipped, Drinks later? 

I think Mobile video will be the IT factor.



[videoblogging] I think this is Flex bundled with something, maybe flash?

2007-03-07 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
There is a lot here once you get the hang of it. And there is a lot of
Whack stuff too (Finger guitine, killer rats). Nice embeds of video
(Look for a old still film camera icon) and plenty of games.

http://www.want2bsquare.com/bsquare/pub/landing.do

Play with the cube before you use the enter to select a cube side.

I ran into a few system slow downs (I am on a mac mini with 512k ram)
but for the most part it was fairly smooth.

When I saw a Adobe demo a few weeks back I liked it but missed a lot
of the features and functionality because I didn't get the navigation.
After I did the Adobe survey and realized I missed stuff I applied the
oh factor to navigate this Scion site. At the time I did not realize
(or missed the point) I was looking at Flex (if this is Flex).

I only dove about a 1/8 of the way in... this is a day killer!



[videoblogging] Re: Test a video on you phone/handheld?

2007-03-07 Thread valdezatron
Si Senor.  FCP in the wood-paneled, jesus adorned, freezer of a basement.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 He uses FCP, I'm pretty sure.  But you'd have to ask Sr. Aaron
Valdez, as he
 is the mastermind behind the America, Your America! series on WS.
 
 On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Great - yeah, that works for me now.  And I have wifi on N93 so I
  don't get the pain of slow loading (is there an emoticon for smug
  bastard?).  I don't know what the conventions/standards are, but do
  people use mobile. subdomains as well?
  And another great video, by the way.  When it started, I didn't think
  it would hold me for the whole 5 mins with split screens and
  confusion, but it really did.  GRAN CAANYON!  Just out of interest,
  what did you use to cut it and split screen?  FCP?
  Rupert
 
  On 7 Mar 2007, at 23:44, Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage wrote:
 
  Well, I took that javascript swap out because it's buggy as hell and
  just
  went with different calls to CSS for handheld and Screen, with a
  capital
  S in screen because if not Windows Mobile will try to display it
  (good
  thinking MS!).
 
  The two CSS import rules in the main page's header are still there,
  because
  dammit it actually works on some handhelds and phones, like my
razr. But
  since our site is very graphics-heavy, it's probably better for
  mobile users
  to just use our http://wreckandsalvage.com/mobile site that I have now
  re-linked to the Cellphone button on our front page.
 
  Thanks for the design nod.
 
  On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Nokia N93, running Opera Mobile and Flash 7 - I get to see the whole
   home page fine because Opera Mobile lets you see all the images as
   they should be and at various levels of zoom, but there's no Flash
   video of course (Opera only handles Flash 7) and when I click the
   Cellphone image/link nothing happens because it doesn't like the
   javascript. I could download the Quicktime and Windows videos by
   clicking on them because they're direct links to the files on Blip.
   HTH. (Also, if I click the Cellphone link on my Mac Firefox, it
   freaks out and goes black and doesn't allow me to go back or
anything
   - presumably the javascript swaps the CSS to a mobile.css or
   something, does it? A less stylish answer might be to have a direct
   link to the file and maybe even (sigh) a text link? I love your
   design, by the way.)
   Hope this helps
   Rupert
  
   On 7 Mar 2007, at 22:27, Adam Quirk wrote:
  
   I'd be very grateful if anyone with a video-capable handheld or
  mobile
   phone would be willing to test our site for me. It's supposed to
   detect that you're on a mobile and change the layout accordingly. It
   seems to work on my razr, but I just heard that it isn't working for
   someone running Windows Mobile.
  
   If you're up for it:
  
   1. Visit wreckandsalvage.com from your phone/handheld
   2. Tell me if you can see the site and/or one of the videos
   3. Tell me what you're using, device/OS.
  
   Muchas gracias.
  
   --
   Adam Quirk
   Wreck  Salvage
   551.208.4644
   Brooklyn, NY
   http://wreckandsalvage.com
  
  
  
  
  
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   Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
  
  
 
  --
  Adam Quirk
  Wreck  Salvage
  551.208.4644
  Brooklyn, NY
  http://wreckandsalvage.com
 
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 Wreck  Salvage
 551.208.4644
 Brooklyn, NY
 http://wreckandsalvage.com
 
 
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Re: Fwd: [videoblogging] Test a video on you phone/handheld?

2007-03-07 Thread Bill Shackelford
On a LGVX8100 cell phone from verizon I could not get any of the videos to play.

I also have a mobile site with video on it to here:

http://m.billshackelford.com

I found out the cell phones with verizon's OS with the openwave browser do not 
support 
video at all (which is most of them). I was able to determine that more phones 
are 
comptible with .3gp than with .3g2 it appears across the providers. 

I think your idea of posting a link to a windows media file is a good idea for 
all the 
Windows spartphones out there. I will be adding a link to my iPod compatible 
files off my 
moblie site because it will be compatible with the iPhone. Cell phone 
podcasting looks like 
it will take off with the iPhone :) Is your .mov files ipod compatible?

Great videos :)

- Bill
http://billshackelford.com



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nokia N93, running Opera Mobile and Flash 7 - I get to see the whole  
 home page fine because Opera Mobile lets you see all the images as  
 they should be and at various levels of zoom, but there's no Flash  
 video of course (Opera only handles Flash 7) and when I click the  
 Cellphone image/link nothing happens because it doesn't like the  
 javascript.  I could download the Quicktime and Windows videos by  
 clicking on them because they're direct links to the files on Blip.   
 HTH. (Also, if I click the Cellphone link on my Mac Firefox, it  
 freaks out and goes black and doesn't allow me to go back or anything  
 - presumably the javascript swaps the CSS to a mobile.css or  
 something, does it? A less stylish answer might be to have a direct  
 link to the file and maybe even (sigh) a text link?  I love your  
 design, by the way.)
 Hope this helps
 Rupert
 
 On 7 Mar 2007, at 22:27, Adam Quirk wrote:
 
 I'd be very grateful if anyone with a video-capable handheld or mobile
 phone would be willing to test our site for me. It's supposed to
 detect that you're on a mobile and change the layout accordingly. It
 seems to work on my razr, but I just heard that it isn't working for
 someone running Windows Mobile.
 
 If you're up for it:
 
 1. Visit wreckandsalvage.com from your phone/handheld
 2. Tell me if you can see the site and/or one of the videos
 3. Tell me what you're using, device/OS.
 
 Muchas gracias.
 
 -- 
 Adam Quirk
 Wreck  Salvage
 551.208.4644
 Brooklyn, NY
 http://wreckandsalvage.com
 
 
 
 
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





Re: Fwd: [videoblogging] Test a video on you phone/handheld?

2007-03-07 Thread Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage
Yeah, lots of Windows Mobile devices out there now, hence the .wmv link.
And yeah our .mov's are totally iPoddy.

I loved Home Movies.  Very soothing for some reason, even with the quick
cuts.  I really wish my parents or grandparents had taped stuff back then.
I do have some VHS tapes from the early 80's of some of my t-ball games, and
one of me standing in front of the TV singing Rainbow Connection along with
Kermit.  I need to have my parents send me those before they decompose.

PS, if you stick a bit of javascript in your embed code, when someone clicks
in the box all the text is automatically selected.

Like this:

input name=embed type=text value=some code that embeds a video
onClick=this.focus(); this.select() 

Just learnt that the other day and was momentarily impressed with it.

-Adam

On 3/8/07, Bill Shackelford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On a LGVX8100 cell phone from verizon I could not get any of the videos to
 play.

 I also have a mobile site with video on it to here:

 http://m.billshackelford.com

 I found out the cell phones with verizon's OS with the openwave browser do
 not support
 video at all (which is most of them). I was able to determine that more
 phones are
 comptible with .3gp than with .3g2 it appears across the providers.

 I think your idea of posting a link to a windows media file is a good idea
 for all the
 Windows spartphones out there. I will be adding a link to my iPod
 compatible files off my
 moblie site because it will be compatible with the iPhone. Cell phone
 podcasting looks like
 it will take off with the iPhone :) Is your .mov files ipod compatible?

 Great videos :)

 - Bill
 http://billshackelford.com



 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Nokia N93, running Opera Mobile and Flash 7 - I get to see the whole
  home page fine because Opera Mobile lets you see all the images as
  they should be and at various levels of zoom, but there's no Flash
  video of course (Opera only handles Flash 7) and when I click the
  Cellphone image/link nothing happens because it doesn't like the
  javascript.  I could download the Quicktime and Windows videos by
  clicking on them because they're direct links to the files on Blip.
  HTH. (Also, if I click the Cellphone link on my Mac Firefox, it
  freaks out and goes black and doesn't allow me to go back or anything
  - presumably the javascript swaps the CSS to a mobile.css or
  something, does it? A less stylish answer might be to have a direct
  link to the file and maybe even (sigh) a text link?  I love your
  design, by the way.)
  Hope this helps
  Rupert
 
  On 7 Mar 2007, at 22:27, Adam Quirk wrote:
 
  I'd be very grateful if anyone with a video-capable handheld or mobile
  phone would be willing to test our site for me. It's supposed to
  detect that you're on a mobile and change the layout accordingly. It
  seems to work on my razr, but I just heard that it isn't working for
  someone running Windows Mobile.
 
  If you're up for it:
 
  1. Visit wreckandsalvage.com from your phone/handheld
  2. Tell me if you can see the site and/or one of the videos
  3. Tell me what you're using, device/OS.
 
  Muchas gracias.
 
  --
  Adam Quirk
  Wreck  Salvage
  551.208.4644
  Brooklyn, NY
  http://wreckandsalvage.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Wreck  Salvage
551.208.4644
Brooklyn, NY
http://wreckandsalvage.com


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[videoblogging] What happened to Mobuzz.tv?

2007-03-07 Thread Nick Schmidt
I haven't heard anything but I have been waiting for a new video, but
they haven't done anything since January? What up ?

Does anyone know ? Or did I just totally forget something?

nick



[videoblogging] Josh Wolf's 200th Day in Prison - RSF article

2007-03-07 Thread Gena
This is a link to a Reporters Without Borders Article about Josh Wolf.
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=21229

Just a quick excerpt:

Reporters Without Borders today welcomed the fact that judicial
mediation will start tomorrow in the case of jailed blogger and
freelance video journalist Josh Wolf, and that this could lead to his
release. On 10 March, Wolf is due to complete his 200th day in a
federal prison in Dublin, California, for refusing to surrender his
unedited video to a federal grand jury investigation.

Keep the faith,

Gena



Re: Fwd: [videoblogging] Test a video on you phone/handheld?

2007-03-07 Thread Bill Shackelford
Thanks for the code snippet.. I will plug it in.

The Kermit video sounds like a new episode for your vlog :) My home movie 
footage 
unfortunalty had to go through several conversion processes before I could get 
it on my 
Mac. The original 8mm film was transfered to VHS a while back. The VHS tape was 
captured with a PC in Windows Media format. I had to buy the Flip for Mac code 
to then 
get the .wmv file into iMovie where it converted it to DV.  I edited it and 
then exported it to 
the web formats. I hope one day to have it recaptured directly from the 8mm 
film to a 
Computer.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Yeah, lots of Windows Mobile devices out there now, hence the .wmv link.
 And yeah our .mov's are totally iPoddy.
 
 I loved Home Movies.  Very soothing for some reason, even with the quick
 cuts.  I really wish my parents or grandparents had taped stuff back then.
 I do have some VHS tapes from the early 80's of some of my t-ball games, and
 one of me standing in front of the TV singing Rainbow Connection along with
 Kermit.  I need to have my parents send me those before they decompose.
 
 PS, if you stick a bit of javascript in your embed code, when someone clicks
 in the box all the text is automatically selected.
 
 Like this:
 
 input name=embed type=text value=some code that embeds a video
 onClick=this.focus(); this.select() 
 
 Just learnt that the other day and was momentarily impressed with it.
 
 -Adam
 
 On 3/8/07, Bill Shackelford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On a LGVX8100 cell phone from verizon I could not get any of the videos to
  play.
 
  I also have a mobile site with video on it to here:
 
  http://m.billshackelford.com
 
  I found out the cell phones with verizon's OS with the openwave browser do
  not support
  video at all (which is most of them). I was able to determine that more
  phones are
  comptible with .3gp than with .3g2 it appears across the providers.
 
  I think your idea of posting a link to a windows media file is a good idea
  for all the
  Windows spartphones out there. I will be adding a link to my iPod
  compatible files off my
  moblie site because it will be compatible with the iPhone. Cell phone
  podcasting looks like
  it will take off with the iPhone :) Is your .mov files ipod compatible?
 
  Great videos :)
 
  - Bill
  http://billshackelford.com
 
 
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote:
  
   Nokia N93, running Opera Mobile and Flash 7 - I get to see the whole
   home page fine because Opera Mobile lets you see all the images as
   they should be and at various levels of zoom, but there's no Flash
   video of course (Opera only handles Flash 7) and when I click the
   Cellphone image/link nothing happens because it doesn't like the
   javascript.  I could download the Quicktime and Windows videos by
   clicking on them because they're direct links to the files on Blip.
   HTH. (Also, if I click the Cellphone link on my Mac Firefox, it
   freaks out and goes black and doesn't allow me to go back or anything
   - presumably the javascript swaps the CSS to a mobile.css or
   something, does it? A less stylish answer might be to have a direct
   link to the file and maybe even (sigh) a text link?  I love your
   design, by the way.)
   Hope this helps
   Rupert
  
   On 7 Mar 2007, at 22:27, Adam Quirk wrote:
  
   I'd be very grateful if anyone with a video-capable handheld or mobile
   phone would be willing to test our site for me. It's supposed to
   detect that you're on a mobile and change the layout accordingly. It
   seems to work on my razr, but I just heard that it isn't working for
   someone running Windows Mobile.
  
   If you're up for it:
  
   1. Visit wreckandsalvage.com from your phone/handheld
   2. Tell me if you can see the site and/or one of the videos
   3. Tell me what you're using, device/OS.
  
   Muchas gracias.
  
   --
   Adam Quirk
   Wreck  Salvage
   551.208.4644
   Brooklyn, NY
   http://wreckandsalvage.com
  
  
  
  
  
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  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Adam Quirk
 Wreck  Salvage
 551.208.4644
 Brooklyn, NY
 http://wreckandsalvage.com
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace

2007-03-07 Thread caroosky
Rupert, you took the words right out of my mouth.  You really get this
thing we're doing, don't you?  I'm honored and humbled, because I'm
not entirely sure that we've been explaining it all that well up to
now...  If ever our paths cross in the real world (whatever THAT means
anymore ;-) I'm buying the beer.

Cheers,
Carter

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think the key is that what Carter was talking about (i'm putting  
 words in his mouth here) was choosing a model for conversations  
 between people, and I guess he particularly mentioned video  
 comments.  Looking at the way they do it in crowdabout, as a back   
 forth thing, with audio video and text all part of the same block,  
 they've chosen a very different model from the YouTube thing, which  
 is very much more a hitrun text comment thing, with a tacked on  
 videocomment thing encouraging a short attention span, often used by  
 people trying to get views from more popular sites, and less  about  
 conversations.  (in my limited experience).
 there seem to be more comments on YouTube than there are on most  
 standalone vlogs - which is great.  whether it's a conversation and a  
 lasting connection is another matter.  someone more experienced in  
 building YouTube relationships should comment.  (Only there aren't  
 any here, because they think we hate them... lol)
 
 
 On 7 Mar 2007, at 20:31, David King wrote:
 
 Carter (I think) said:
 
   But if I want to have conversations using video content as the
   starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube.
 
 Help me out here - why is it an either/or thing with using Youtube for
 conversations? I'm not getting that. Because Youtube works basically the
 same as any other video hosting service - you can still embed your  
 youtube
 videos on your real blog, and basically ignore the youtube part of  
 it. You
 still get your videoblog's rss feed, and you still get your videoblog's
 comments...
 
 Other than the video ownership thing and downloading, what's the diff?
 
 david
 
 So you can still do rss
 
 On 3/7/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Cheers. I think I still use the hammer too much myself, even though I
   have other tools available!
  
   Youtube was not the obvious candidate in my mind when talking about
   video conversations here in the past, but as they have a critical  
 mass
   of users, and at some point added the video responses feature, it was
   the first big instance Id seen of this stuff actually happening.
  
   Forums/messageboards were where I cut my net communications teeth in
   text, and so Ive ocasionally waffled here about how I wanted to see
   video fused with the messageboard way of things. I wondered how it
   would be done, whether people would actually use it. Im still
   wondering because things havent reached that stage yet, but at least
   there are a few services out there such as yours, and youtube has at
   least stuck its toe into the water.
  
   Anyway I would like to think that there'd have been more people
   joining in this conversation if it were happenign a year or 2 ago, I
   dunoo, it seems harder to have a long conversation about what  
 features
   people dream of these days, perhaps because people basic needs are
   already satisfied. All the same I hope there are actually a mass of
   people passionately excited about all these sorts of alternative 
   extra uses for video on the net. I like shows and everything else
   thats happening but I yearn for the days when there was a chance that
   any day you coudl logon and find some individual has created some
   funky tool, that whilst primitive shows the potential of the future.
   It felt like there were no frontiers, now much talk seems to centre
   around re-crossing the frontiers that the mass media previously  
 filled
   with concrete, but I fear far too much replication of TV and the old
   ways, leading to mothing different enough to truly stir my passions.
  
   Anyway I definately agree with others that its pretty essential that
   your comment system be built into the embedded player.
  
   Cheers
  
   Steve Elbows
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   caroosky carter@ wrote:
   
Steve,
Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts in
finding differences.
   
I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in  
 your
kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a
   nail.
   
As someone spending a great deal of time thinking about how to  
 build
social tools, I'm perhaps all too quick to criticize YouTube's  
 hammer
(in this case, their comment feature). In doing this, I'm not about
to criticize content creators who use YouTube for what it does  
 best:
getting video up on the web and available to a massively large
potential audience. I put things on YouTube when that is my goal.
When