[videoblogging] Introduction SXSW query
Hi all: I've been lurking on this list for almost two years, occasionally posting a comment when relevant, but mainly just coasting along for hte ride. I thought it was finally time to go public...I'm going to SXSW for the film/interactive conference at the end of this week and wanted to find out if anyone else was heading down to Austin...then I realized I've never actually said an official hello to the group! I first became acquainted with this list when Current TV was doing it's talent search, back in the days when it was inDtv. Someone turned me on to this group, and it's been amazing reading everyone's posts. Thanks to all for sharing their knowledge and insights. I have learned a lot from reading everyone's comments as I've come to play more and more in the new media universe. A little about me...I'm an actress journalist. I've spent the past several years programming for film festivals, and thus have spent far too many hours in a small dark room watching many, many movies. In May 2006 I started working for a new site called iklipz.com, which is a video-sharing site specifically aimed at independent filmmakers. Given the type of site I work for, the recent YouTube/MySpace thread was especially interesting. I've been producing working as a correspondent for iklipz, a lot of my segments can be found at www.iklipz.com/TamaraKrinsky. I don't consider this video blogging, as the segments are very Entertainment Tonight-esque, but they're fun and I've gotten to talk to some great talent, so check them out if you are an indie film fan. The benefit of working for the site is that it has given me the opportunity to learn a lot and finally acquire some new media making tools, which I hope to put to use videoblogging when I return from SXSW. If you're going to be down in Austin, please give a shout. I've never been to this particular festival and would love to hear more about navigating it from anyone who's been. Cheers, Tamara Krinsky
Re: [videoblogging] Re: help watching on tv
That's genius, David. So the fact is, you CAN just use an ordinary A/ V cable, but Apple have switched the cables so that you have to plug the red cable into the video socket and the yellow into the audio. Just so they can sell overpriced proprietary accessories that do exactly the same thing, but with the cables switched. That's a cheap trick. I like Apple less and less every time I read about them, and I used to be a huge fan. Rupert On 7 Mar 2007, at 01:53, David Howell wrote: Richard, Have you tried this? http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/11/18/video-ipod.html That works for me with my iPod on the TV. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maureen and I always watch vlogs on TV using the iPod. My iPod quite working ... very sad ... tried the reboot thing, that's worked before a zillion times I thought I'd connect the mac book pro using audio and s-video, but no s-video on mac book pro. Maybe it would work with AV cable for iPod by sticking it in the ear phone jack ... nope Maybe I could burn stuff to dvd and watch ... not too good of an option Ok, I admit it, actually tonight I was going to watch an episode of lost I got from iPod store in .m4v I can't believe that would work in my dvd player. Quicktime pro didn't seem to want to convert that file into anything else, maybe copy protection, I don't know. ... any ideas apprecaited ... richard -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Good - Ok, Bad Ugly - not Ok! or How to: Control info on the Net
Liberté, égalité, fraternité. Whatever. It's depressing. Even more depressing that a country as big and rich and 'free' as France can take such a huge step towards state control without anybody hearing about it. You will be all right in the US. Your current administration would have loved to pass a law like this if it could have, of course. But it can't without a massive debate about the first amendment. We're not lucky enough in the UK to have a written constitution, or anything concrete that protects freedom of speech or of the press. It's all about public approval and press power here. Using 'happy slapping' as justification like the French did, is a typically cynical and depressingly successful way to bring the public with you on bad law. Hopefully, the press here would fight something like this. But you never know. We've had some bad, bad laws passed here since 9/11 with barely a murmur from the press. Like it being a criminal offence to express any protest within 1 mile radius of the houses of parliament, effectively killing demonstrations and dissent in the center of London. Many people have been convicted, just for exercising their democratic right to free speech. So, you never know. Got to use our voices and the internet if it starts to happen here. Pity the French didn't do the same. On 7 Mar 2007, at 02:43, bordercollieaustralianshepherd wrote: Trying to trick it by replying to my own post France bans citizen journalists from reporting violence I know this is across the pond. It still troubles me. http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/03/06/franceban/index.php The French Constitutional Council has approved a law that criminalizes the filming or broadcasting of acts of violence by people other than professional journalists. The law could lead to the imprisonment of eyewitnesses who film acts of police violence, or operators of Web sites publishing the images, one French civil liberties group warned on Tuesday.snip [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Good - Ok, Bad Ugly - not Ok! or How to: Control info on the Net
Tagged for the Vlog Press Kit. Dang. Jan On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Liberté, égalité, fraternité. Whatever. It's depressing. Even more depressing that a country as big and rich and 'free' as France can take such a huge step towards state control without anybody hearing about it. You will be all right in the US. Your current administration would have loved to pass a law like this if it could have, of course. But it can't without a massive debate about the first amendment. We're not lucky enough in the UK to have a written constitution, or anything concrete that protects freedom of speech or of the press. It's all about public approval and press power here. Using 'happy slapping' as justification like the French did, is a typically cynical and depressingly successful way to bring the public with you on bad law. Hopefully, the press here would fight something like this. But you never know. We've had some bad, bad laws passed here since 9/11 with barely a murmur from the press. Like it being a criminal offence to express any protest within 1 mile radius of the houses of parliament, effectively killing demonstrations and dissent in the center of London. Many people have been convicted, just for exercising their democratic right to free speech. So, you never know. Got to use our voices and the internet if it starts to happen here. Pity the French didn't do the same. On 7 Mar 2007, at 02:43, bordercollieaustralianshepherd wrote: Trying to trick it by replying to my own post France bans citizen journalists from reporting violence I know this is across the pond. It still troubles me. http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/03/06/franceban/index.php The French Constitutional Council has approved a law that criminalizes the filming or broadcasting of acts of violence by people other than professional journalists. The law could lead to the imprisonment of eyewitnesses who film acts of police violence, or operators of Web sites publishing the images, one French civil liberties group warned on Tuesday.snip [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news
Yeah, and I just saw you introducing yesterday's The Show, Jan. Nice! Worst spelling bee ever. But you *are* quite flexible. http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/archives/2007/03/030507.html On 6 Mar 2007, at 13:30, Jan McLaughlin wrote: http://www.postbulletin.com/newsmanager/templates/localnews_story.asp? a=286422z=23 Just found this piece. Jan -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] help watching on tv
steve .. I was looking for something that inputs to s-video and it doesn't look like this does, but I may not understand it. ... richard On 3/6/07, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just bought an HDMI DVI Cable for $5.03. http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2007/03/steve-tv-ii-hdmi-dvi- cable.html or http://tinyurl.com/ytxvn4 On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:32 PM, Richard (Show) Hall wrote: Maureen and I always watch vlogs on TV using the iPod. My iPod quite working ... very sad ... tried the reboot thing, that's worked before a zillion times I thought I'd connect the mac book pro using audio and s-video, but no s-video on mac book pro. Maybe it would work with AV cable for iPod by sticking it in the ear phone jack ... nope Maybe I could burn stuff to dvd and watch ... not too good of an option Ok, I admit it, actually tonight I was going to watch an episode of lost I got from iPod store in .m4v I can't believe that would work in my dvd player. Quicktime pro didn't seem to want to convert that file into anything else, maybe copy protection, I don't know. ... any ideas apprecaited ... richard -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Steve Garfield http://SteveGarfield.com -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: help watching on tv
David, The deal is that my iPod is broken. I used to watch from the iPod all the time. I want to know how to watch form the mac directly to TV. Anyway, Bill's thing appears that it will work. And I appreciate your response anyway :) ... Richard On 3/6/07, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard, Have you tried this? http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/11/18/video-ipod.html That works for me with my iPod on the TV. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maureen and I always watch vlogs on TV using the iPod. My iPod quite working ... very sad ... tried the reboot thing, that's worked before a zillion times I thought I'd connect the mac book pro using audio and s-video, but no s-video on mac book pro. Maybe it would work with AV cable for iPod by sticking it in the ear phone jack ... nope Maybe I could burn stuff to dvd and watch ... not too good of an option Ok, I admit it, actually tonight I was going to watch an episode of lost I got from iPod store in .m4v I can't believe that would work in my dvd player. Quicktime pro didn't seem to want to convert that file into anything else, maybe copy protection, I don't know. ... any ideas apprecaited ... richard -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: help watching on tv
thanks Bill ... perfect ... Richard On 3/6/07, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maureen and I always watch vlogs on TV using the iPod. My iPod quite working ... very sad ... tried the reboot thing, that's worked before a zillion times I thought I'd connect the mac book pro using audio and s-video, but no s-video on mac book pro. -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/StoreReentry.wo?productLearnMore=M9267G%2FA The Apple DVI to Video Adapter was designed to allow Mac Pro (with ATI X1900 XT), MacBook Pro, Mac mini and Power Mac G5 users to connect the DVI port to an S-video or Composite video device such as TVs, VCRs or overhead projectors with S-Video or RCA (Composite) connectors. The Apple DVI to Video Adapter is designed to work with the DVI port on the Mac Pro (with ATI X1900 XT) MacBook Pro, Mac mini and Power Mac G5 systems only. Use a separate DVI to VGA Adapter for VGA video out for Mac Pro, MacBook Pro, Mac mini or Power Mac G5 (included with all Mac Pro, MacBook Pro, Mac mini or Power Mac G5 systems or available for order as a standalone kit). Important: Requires Mac Pro (with ATI X1900 XT), MacBook Pro, Mac mini or Power Mac G5 with DVI port. -- Bill C. http://ReelSolid.TV -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: help watching on tv
Try an Apple Mini-DVI to Video Adapter. I use something simular to this with my MacMini. Here is the link to it in the Apple Store: http://store.apple.com/1- 800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID? mco=4D24B4ABnplm=M9319G%2FA Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maureen and I always watch vlogs on TV using the iPod. My iPod quite working ... very sad ... tried the reboot thing, that's worked before a zillion times I thought I'd connect the mac book pro using audio and s-video, but no s-video on mac book pro. Maybe it would work with AV cable for iPod by sticking it in the ear phone jack ... nope Maybe I could burn stuff to dvd and watch ... not too good of an option Ok, I admit it, actually tonight I was going to watch an episode of lost I got from iPod store in .m4v I can't believe that would work in my dvd player. Quicktime pro didn't seem to want to convert that file into anything else, maybe copy protection, I don't know. ... any ideas apprecaited ... richard -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: help watching on tv
Opps sorry didn't see this when I posted. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall richard@ wrote: Maureen and I always watch vlogs on TV using the iPod. My iPod quite working ... very sad ... tried the reboot thing, that's worked before a zillion times I thought I'd connect the mac book pro using audio and s-video, but no s-video on mac book pro. -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY- APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/StoreReentry.wo? productLearnMore=M9267G%2FA The Apple DVI to Video Adapter was designed to allow Mac Pro (with ATI X1900 XT), MacBook Pro, Mac mini and Power Mac G5 users to connect the DVI port to an S-video or Composite video device such as TVs, VCRs or overhead projectors with S-Video or RCA (Composite) connectors. The Apple DVI to Video Adapter is designed to work with the DVI port on the Mac Pro (with ATI X1900 XT) MacBook Pro, Mac mini and Power Mac G5 systems only. Use a separate DVI to VGA Adapter for VGA video out for Mac Pro, MacBook Pro, Mac mini or Power Mac G5 (included with all Mac Pro, MacBook Pro, Mac mini or Power Mac G5 systems or available for order as a standalone kit). Important: Requires Mac Pro (with ATI X1900 XT), MacBook Pro, Mac mini or Power Mac G5 with DVI port. -- Bill C. http://ReelSolid.TV
[videoblogging] Re: help watching on tv
Steve's HDMI cable suggestion would work well if you had a newer TV, as it seems HDMI will become the standard connection for years to come. Anyway to solve your problem, you just need the right apple adaptor. There is one that turns the DVI port on your macbook into a s-video composite output: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?productLearnMore=M9267G/A The above also works on the Mac Mini, altough my TV has a DVI input so I havent actually tried this myself. If you had a normal macbook rather than a macbook pro then youd need a slightly different adaptor, as that laptop has a mini-DVI output rather than normal DVI. Incidentally, low res 320x240 videoblogs probably look better on an old CRT-type television rather than modern LCD's, as the way CRT's seem to soften the image helps hide pixels compresion artifacts. Just installed a large 1080i LCD tv at my brothers flat and normal television looks quite bad through it, when close to the screen, let alone 320x240. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: steve .. I was looking for something that inputs to s-video and it doesn't look like this does, but I may not understand it. ... richard On 3/6/07, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just bought an HDMI DVI Cable for $5.03. http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2007/03/steve-tv-ii-hdmi-dvi- cable.html or http://tinyurl.com/ytxvn4 On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:32 PM, Richard (Show) Hall wrote: Maureen and I always watch vlogs on TV using the iPod. My iPod quite working ... very sad ... tried the reboot thing, that's worked before a zillion times I thought I'd connect the mac book pro using audio and s-video, but no s-video on mac book pro. Maybe it would work with AV cable for iPod by sticking it in the ear phone jack ... nope Maybe I could burn stuff to dvd and watch ... not too good of an option Ok, I admit it, actually tonight I was going to watch an episode of lost I got from iPod store in .m4v I can't believe that would work in my dvd player. Quicktime pro didn't seem to want to convert that file into anything else, maybe copy protection, I don't know. ... any ideas apprecaited ... richard -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Steve Garfield http://SteveGarfield.com -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: help watching on tv
Oops sorry I missed all the other replies before I posted that. I wonder just how well that Apple TV will sell, out of all the Apple products released in recent years, maybe this one is a riskier proposition - will it catch on? Certainly the price is wild compared to just getting a cable, I guess it depends how far your TV is from the computer. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve's HDMI cable suggestion would work well if you had a newer TV, as it seems HDMI will become the standard connection for years to come. Anyway to solve your problem, you just need the right apple adaptor. There is one that turns the DVI port on your macbook into a s-video composite output: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?productLearnMore=M9267G/A The above also works on the Mac Mini, altough my TV has a DVI input so I havent actually tried this myself. If you had a normal macbook rather than a macbook pro then youd need a slightly different adaptor, as that laptop has a mini-DVI output rather than normal DVI. Incidentally, low res 320x240 videoblogs probably look better on an old CRT-type television rather than modern LCD's, as the way CRT's seem to soften the image helps hide pixels compresion artifacts. Just installed a large 1080i LCD tv at my brothers flat and normal television looks quite bad through it, when close to the screen, let alone 320x240. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall richard@ wrote: steve .. I was looking for something that inputs to s-video and it doesn't look like this does, but I may not understand it. ... richard On 3/6/07, Steve Garfield steve@ wrote: I just bought an HDMI DVI Cable for $5.03. http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2007/03/steve-tv-ii-hdmi-dvi- cable.html or http://tinyurl.com/ytxvn4 On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:32 PM, Richard (Show) Hall wrote: Maureen and I always watch vlogs on TV using the iPod. My iPod quite working ... very sad ... tried the reboot thing, that's worked before a zillion times I thought I'd connect the mac book pro using audio and s-video, but no s-video on mac book pro. Maybe it would work with AV cable for iPod by sticking it in the ear phone jack ... nope Maybe I could burn stuff to dvd and watch ... not too good of an option Ok, I admit it, actually tonight I was going to watch an episode of lost I got from iPod store in .m4v I can't believe that would work in my dvd player. Quicktime pro didn't seem to want to convert that file into anything else, maybe copy protection, I don't know. ... any ideas apprecaited ... richard -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Steve Garfield http://SteveGarfield.com -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news
LOL - yes - that's one reason I enjoy Second Life :: I can be whomever I feel like being at the time. How did you know it was me? Jan On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, and I just saw you introducing yesterday's The Show, Jan. Nice! Worst spelling bee ever. But you *are* quite flexible. http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/archives/2007/03/030507.html On 6 Mar 2007, at 13:30, Jan McLaughlin wrote: http://www.postbulletin.com/newsmanager/templates/localnews_story.asp? a=286422z=23 Just found this piece. Jan -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Anyone mixing video and geolocation outside of Google Maps?
This is my first post - been lurkig for a few months. Just a quick question to see if anyone is doing any work in the area of online video and geolocation outside of a Google Maps interface. We've developed a beta UI feature that finds the geographically closest videos based on some user derived context. In the case of our beta functionality, the contexts are limited to video language and location of the selected video. A bit more coding would make almost any context driven filtering possible. The feature works with any of our interviews found at http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp . Choosing an interview from Central America (Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua) will best demonstrate that the functionality works across national borders. Thoughts on the functionality? Have others implemented similar contextual functionality with video or working on integrating geolocation with video outside of a Google maps interface? Regards Tony [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Anyone mixing video and geolocation outside of Google Maps?
Select any video interview at the link below to see the feature at work. Underneath the video that plays, you'll find a UI with the eight geographically closest videos in that same language. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my first post - been lurkig for a few months. Just a quick question to see if anyone is doing any work in the area of online video and geolocation outside of a Google Maps interface. We've developed a beta UI feature that finds the geographically closest videos based on some user derived context. In the case of our beta functionality, the contexts are limited to video language and location of the selected video. A bit more coding would make almost any context driven filtering possible. The feature works with any of our interviews found at http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp . Choosing an interview from Central America (Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua) will best demonstrate that the functionality works across national borders. Thoughts on the functionality? Have others implemented similar contextual functionality with video or working on integrating geolocation with video outside of a Google maps interface? Regards Tony [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news
I don't know - I just felt it, like a tremor in the Force... :-) Must have been a combination of your voice and the Press badge which I guessed maybe said Faux Press (as it does), when I went to your site to check. Plus, of course, your incredible flexibility. That was a dead giveaway. So I checked your site to see. Also I remember you saying a while back that you were in SL. I've been meaning to check it out for a long time. I just can't quite bring myself yet to get into anything else that I might get sucked into obsessively. I already have enough projects on the go, and I have memories of the entire summer after I left university being lost to Sim City... Rupert On 7 Mar 2007, at 14:36, Jan McLaughlin wrote: LOL - yes - that's one reason I enjoy Second Life :: I can be whomever I feel like being at the time. How did you know it was me? Jan On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, and I just saw you introducing yesterday's The Show, Jan. Nice! Worst spelling bee ever. But you *are* quite flexible. http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/archives/2007/03/030507.html On 6 Mar 2007, at 13:30, Jan McLaughlin wrote: http://www.postbulletin.com/newsmanager/templates/ localnews_story.asp? a=286422z=23 Just found this piece. Jan -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Turkish goverment banned YOUTUBE!... Please forward everybody!...
Dear Friends; Turkish goverments banned www.youtube.com in Turkey. Somebodies put a video about Ataturk in youtube (Ataturk is founder of Turkish republic) and defamation about him. Of course it's not a good thing but banned a website I think is not a democratic movement. Because only one video is included this bad thing why other thousands videos are banned? I don't understand why? And this reason Turkish goverment banned youtube today. And if you type www.youtube.com on your internet browser anywhere in Turkey you will see below message. * * *Bu siteye eriþim mahkeme kararýyla engellenmiþtir !...* *www.youtube.com* http://www.youtube.com sitesine eriþim Ýstanbul 1. Sulh Ceza Mahkemesi'nin 2007/384 sayý ve 06.03.2007 tarihli kararý gereði engellenmiþtir. Access to *www.youtube.com* https://mail.google.com/mail/www.youtube.comsite has been suspended in accordance with decision no: 2007/384 dated 06.03.2007 of Istanbul First Criminal Peace Court. Gokcen Karan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/hOt0.A/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: VON Roll Call
I'll be there as well. Schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://webshots.com/is/spotlight http://hatfactory.net http://evilvlog.com On 3/6/07, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was another thread started on this topic. I will be there as will Miss Casey McKinnon. At the Portable Media Expo, I made sticky badges for all of us to indicate video people in the midst of many audio people. I can do this again if there's interest. Only here, the conference is about video on the net, so perhaps it should be some sort of original content producer thingy. Or maybe not necessary at all. Rox On 3/6/07, amani_c [EMAIL PROTECTED] amani_c%40yahoo.com wrote: Amani Channel is at VON WestCoastin it. Fa shizzle! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, since everyone is doing a roll call for SXSW I propose one for VON. I'll be in California before and after the Conference on a vacation with my family. So if your at VON it'd be awesome to say hi. -- -Jonathan Bloom http://thenameiwantedwastaken.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian 808-384-5554 http://www.beachwalks.tv http://www.barefeetshop.com http://www.barefeetstudios.com http://www.inthetransition.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Who's NOT going to a conferance!
Ok, can we get a roll call of who is not going to any conferances within the next few weeks. Also I was wondering does anybody have tech conferances in places besides SF or NY? I don't know about you but I am really looking forward to not seeing any of you. Sorry, I am just feeling a little ornery for some reason :) Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com I need a drink.
RE: [videoblogging] Turkish goverment banned YOUTUBE!... Please forward everybody!...
And then they're confused as to why they're finding difficulty joining the EU. It's called the 20th Century, guys. Join it. -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gokcen Karan Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 11:10 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Turkish goverment banned YOUTUBE!... Please forward everybody!... Dear Friends; Turkish goverments banned www.youtube.com in Turkey. Somebodies put a video about Ataturk in youtube (Ataturk is founder of Turkish republic) and defamation about him. Of course it's not a good thing but banned a website I think is not a democratic movement. Because only one video is included this bad thing why other thousands videos are banned? I don't understand why? And this reason Turkish goverment banned youtube today. And if you type www.youtube.com on your internet browser anywhere in Turkey you will see below message. * __ __ * *Bu siteye eriþim mahkeme kararýyla engellenmiþtir !...* *www.youtube.com* http://www.youtube.com sitesine eriþim Ýstanbul 1. Sulh Ceza Mahkemesi'nin 2007/384 sayý ve 06.03.2007 tarihli kararý gereði engellenmiþtir. Access to *www.youtube.com* https://mail.google.com/mail/www.youtube.comsite has been suspended in accordance with decision no: 2007/384 dated 06.03.2007 of Istanbul First Criminal Peace Court. __ __ Gokcen Karan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/hOt0.A/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM -- --~- Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Blip / Alive in Baghdad / Josh Leo in the news
I had no idea it was you -- and I was totally impressed with the intro. then I listened to it again, and went -- hey! That sounds like Jan at the end -- so I watched it again + saw the Faux Press badge. Which gave it away congrats! Jen On Mar 7, 2007, at 9:36 am, Jan McLaughlin wrote: LOL - yes - that's one reason I enjoy Second Life :: I can be whomever I feel like being at the time. How did you know it was me? Jan . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Who's NOT going to a conferance!
I was invited to go to VON however I couldnt afford the travel expenses. So...have no worries Heath, you arent alone in not going to a conference :) David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, can we get a roll call of who is not going to any conferances within the next few weeks. Also I was wondering does anybody have tech conferances in places besides SF or NY? I don't know about you but I am really looking forward to not seeing any of you. Sorry, I am just feeling a little ornery for some reason :) Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com I need a drink.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Who's NOT going to a conferance!
It does start to get a little irritating sometimes - all the cool people go to SXSW and the rest of us stay home, right? But, hey, I lived in Austin before SXSW ever existed! And I knew it was cool even then. So there! FWIW, I went to a Cisco Expo here in Milan today, which was mostly boring and the food was bad (a mortal sin in Italy). They talked at length about a half million dollar videoconferencing system but did not demo it nor even show video! -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] The Shins...SXSW....tonight
if anyone is in Austin yetthe Shins are playing tonight. Ryanne, me, Verdi and his wife (!)will be going to check them out. you can still buy tickets here: http://www.thebackyard.net/ call me if you want to hook up...or need a ride. Jay 917 371 6790 -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com
Re: [videoblogging] Who's NOT going to a conferance!
too busy! :) On Mar 7, 2007, at 9:16 AM, Heath wrote: Ok, can we get a roll call of who is not going to any conferances within the next few weeks. Also I was wondering does anybody have tech conferances in places besides SF or NY? I don't know about you but I am really looking forward to not seeing any of you. Sorry, I am just feeling a little ornery for some reason :) --- Markus Sandy http://feeds.feedburner.com/havemoneywillvlog http://feeds.feedburner.com/apperceptions http://feeds.feedburner.com/digitaldojo http://feeds.feedburner.com/spinflow [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Turkish goverment banned YOUTUBE!... Please forward everybody!...
Maybe they're confused by the example the French are setting (see other thread). Perhaps they think that to join the EU one has to close down User Generated media outlets and imprison citizen journalists. Remember the French legal ruling in 2000 to censor Yahoo? I'm sure it won't last. A political football, but one worthy of a lot of protest. I hope the voters give them hell. Turkey is, for all the bad press it gets, not a backward country. It's easy for us to look at it through an orientalist lens. It has a fast growing economy and a thriving democratic government that tries to achieve a separation of (Islamic) church and state. But there are certain laws there that restrict freedom of speech - mostly to do with insulting Turkey, its history and heroes, it seems. Feelings can run pretty hot on this stuff - last month a journalist was shot on the street for accusing Turkey of genocide in 1915. Nobel laureate novelist Orhan Pamuk was almost taken to trial for talking about the same thing. But YouTube, from what I gather, was shut down because some Greek people called Ataturk gay. That may seem pretty backward, but I think it's interesting to think about how such a thing could easily happen in our own backyard. We don't have total freedom of speech in the UK - for instance, last year Blair made it against the law to incite religious hatred in the UK. Incitement to religious hatred might be open to interpretation. And I can see how a modern European country like the UK or France could end up fighting something like this in the courts. That's what worries me. And I can see the 'happy slapping' law from France coming here, too. Rupert On 7 Mar 2007, at 17:18, Charles Hope wrote: And then they're confused as to why they're finding difficulty joining the EU. It's called the 20th Century, guys. Join it. -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gokcen Karan Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 11:10 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Turkish goverment banned YOUTUBE!... Please forward everybody!... Dear Friends; Turkish goverments banned www.youtube.com in Turkey. Somebodies put a video about Ataturk in youtube (Ataturk is founder of Turkish republic) and defamation about him. Of course it's not a good thing but banned a website I think is not a democratic movement. Because only one video is included this bad thing why other thousands videos are banned? I don't understand why? And this reason Turkish goverment banned youtube today. And if you type www.youtube.com on your internet browser anywhere in Turkey you will see below message. * __ __ * *Bu siteye eriþim mahkeme kararýyla engellenmiþtir !...* *www.youtube.com* http://www.youtube.com sitesine eriþim Ýstanbul 1. Sulh Ceza Mahkemesi'nin 2007/384 sayý ve 06.03.2007 tarihli kararý gereði engellenmiþtir. Access to *www.youtube.com* https://mail.google.com/mail/www.youtube.comsite has been suspended in accordance with decision no: 2007/384 dated 06.03.2007 of Istanbul First Criminal Peace Court. __ __ Gokcen Karan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/hOt0.A/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM -- --~- Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Who's NOT going to a conferance!
I'd show up at any conference you are at, Deirdre!! She makes conferences more bearable!:) Schlomo On 3/7/07, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does start to get a little irritating sometimes - all the cool people go to SXSW and the rest of us stay home, right? But, hey, I lived in Austin before SXSW ever existed! And I knew it was cool even then. So there! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Who's NOT going to a conferance!
I'm a Not. ;) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, can we get a roll call of who is not going to any conferances within the next few weeks. Also I was wondering does anybody have tech conferances in places besides SF or NY? I don't know about you but I am really looking forward to not seeing any of you. Sorry, I am just feeling a little ornery for some reason :) Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com I need a drink.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Who's NOT going to a conferance!
Aww. I could have used your company at Cisco today! BTW, did you win whatever it was? I voted for you. On 3/7/07, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd show up at any conference you are at, Deirdre!! She makes conferences more bearable!:) Schlomo -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: VON Roll Call
I'll be at VON and look forward to seeing everyone! FireAnt will be presenting in the Video Pavilion and giving a demo of our latest stuff. See you there... Best, Josh On 3/7/07, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be there as well. Schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://webshots.com/is/spotlight http://hatfactory.net http://evilvlog.com On 3/6/07, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was another thread started on this topic. I will be there as will Miss Casey McKinnon. At the Portable Media Expo, I made sticky badges for all of us to indicate video people in the midst of many audio people. I can do this again if there's interest. Only here, the conference is about video on the net, so perhaps it should be some sort of original content producer thingy. Or maybe not necessary at all. Rox On 3/6/07, amani_c [EMAIL PROTECTED] amani_c%40yahoo.com wrote: Amani Channel is at VON WestCoastin it. Fa shizzle! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, since everyone is doing a roll call for SXSW I propose one for VON. I'll be in California before and after the Conference on a vacation with my family. So if your at VON it'd be awesome to say hi. -- -Jonathan Bloom http://thenameiwantedwastaken.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian 808-384-5554 http://www.beachwalks.tv http://www.barefeetshop.com http://www.barefeetstudios.com http://www.inthetransition.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Turkish goverment banned YOUTUBE!... Please forward everybody!...
Hello, On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] But YouTube, from what I gather, was shut down because some Greek people called Ataturk gay. That may seem pretty backward, but I think it's interesting to think about how such a thing could easily happen in our own backyard. We don't have total freedom of speech in the UK - for instance, last year Blair made it against the law to incite religious hatred in the UK. Incitement to religious hatred might be open to interpretation. And I can see how a modern European country like the UK or France could end up fighting something like this in the courts. That's what worries me. And I can see the 'happy slapping' law from France coming here, too. It might be difficult to judge ourselves objectively but Any country (like the Occidental countries) who enforces Copyright law or Patent law doesn't have free speech. Also... any country (like the Occidental countries) that enforces anti-defamation law -- anti-slander or anti-libel law -- doesn't have free speech. See ya -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/ ___ Cars, Motorcycles, Trucks, and Racing... http://tirebiterz.com/
[videoblogging] Re: Anyone mixing video and geolocation outside of Google Maps?
Your site is giving me database errors at the moment so I cant check it out. Personally I havent seen much other than google/yahoo/microsoft maps stuff, but I struggle to keep up with all the sites out there. Some individuals use geo data in their own personal ways but I havent seen many sites make good use of such things in their systems. I certainly believe there are huge possibilities for using geographical data in many interesting ways, but quite which things will catch on is hard to tell, this stuff needs to be built into a lot more tools services, and really compelling reasons for using it need to be discovered. I want to see all the vlogs since I last logged on, in time space. But this is probably closer to google maps stuff than what you are doing, so i wont waffle further about that now. As for contexts in the broader sense, I guess most sites I see just group stuff together by fixed category, or by tags, so the context is centred around keywords of one sort or another. Other than tagging, there hasnt been a whole bunch of progress on metadata in the last year or 2. Certainly users mostly want to enter as little data manually as possible so anything that can supply geo data or other metadata automatically is a large bonus. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my first post - been lurkig for a few months. Just a quick question to see if anyone is doing any work in the area of online video and geolocation outside of a Google Maps interface. We've developed a beta UI feature that finds the geographically closest videos based on some user derived context. In the case of our beta functionality, the contexts are limited to video language and location of the selected video. A bit more coding would make almost any context driven filtering possible. The feature works with any of our interviews found at http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp . Choosing an interview from Central America (Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua) will best demonstrate that the functionality works across national borders. Thoughts on the functionality? Have others implemented similar contextual functionality with video or working on integrating geolocation with video outside of a Google maps interface? Regards Tony [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: VON/SXSW Roll Call + my show w /vloggers Kent Nicols, Ryan Hodson+ @ SXSW
I'll be at VON + SXSW (are there meetups or a lunch or something? I'd love to do that at VON especially. Come participate/say hi at my interactive talk show at my 11th SXSW (crazy) Monday the 12th @the Ritz. Free, please RSVP http://upcoming.org/event/149432/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:Continuous Partial Attention Why do we live this way?What is worth our full attention? How do we give it? For how long? Drinks, nachos and and a twist: each guest for as long as it takes them to drink one beer. Justin Hall [links.net] Ryanne Hodson [Ryanishungry.com] Micki Krimmel [Mickipedia.com] Liz Belile [yoga teacher + feminist p*rnster] Lane Becker [Satisfaction] Derek Powazek [8020 Publishing | JPG Magazine] filmmaker Doug Pray [Scratch, Big Rig] Kent Nichols [Askaninja.com] This will be vlogged + podcast :-) heather gold www.subvert.com | truth through comedy www.heathergold.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be there as well. Schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://webshots.com/is/spotlight http://hatfactory.net http://evilvlog.com On 3/6/07, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was another thread started on this topic. I will be there as will Miss Casey McKinnon. At the Portable Media Expo, I made sticky badges for all of us to indicate video people in the midst of many audio people. I can do this again if there's interest. Only here, the conference is about video on the net, so perhaps it should be some sort of original content producer thingy. Or maybe not necessary at all. Rox On 3/6/07, amani_c [EMAIL PROTECTED] amani_c%40yahoo.com wrote: Amani Channel is at VON WestCoastin it. Fa shizzle! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Bloom jonathan@ wrote: Well, since everyone is doing a roll call for SXSW I propose one for VON. I'll be in California before and after the Conference on a vacation with my family. So if your at VON it'd be awesome to say hi. -- -Jonathan Bloom http://thenameiwantedwastaken.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian 808-384-5554 http://www.beachwalks.tv http://www.barefeetshop.com http://www.barefeetstudios.com http://www.inthetransition.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Turkish goverment banned YOUTUBE!... Please forward everybody!...
Wow! The past coupla weeks have been full of Word, Access and Preception manipulation. Is this translation correct? First Criminal Peace Court --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gokcen Karan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Friends; Turkish goverments banned www.youtube.com in Turkey. *Bu siteye eriþim mahkeme kararýyla engellenmiþtir !...* *www.youtube.com* http://www.youtube.com sitesine eriþim Ýstanbul 1. Sulh Ceza Mahkemesi'nin 2007/384 sayý ve 06.03.2007 tarihli kararý gereði engellenmiþtir. Access to *www.youtube.com* https://mail.google.com/mail/www.youtube.comsite has been suspended in accordance with decision no: 2007/384 dated 06.03.2007 of Istanbul First Criminal Peace Court. Gokcen Karan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: crowdabout.us (was blog vs youtube myspace)
This is the most interesting bit of conversation I've read in a while. I'm spent but I wanted to just say this. The trick with time based commenting is to make it live in the ecosystem... NOT just on crowdabout.us. I love the idea of the embedded player. Watch the video and make time based comments right in the blog. I'll go one further thought. This is just off the top of my head but Crowdabout.us could then post that time based comment BACK to the comments in the bloggers own page so that the time based comments could be followed not ONLY in the flash widget, but would be a PART of the established comments section. The key would be... a) gaining access to the blogger, MT, and Wordpress API's by allowing crowdabout.us users to claim their blog. b) developing a light semantic markup or microformat for leaving time based comments from crowdabout.us IN the comments on blogs. This would ensure that all the crowdabout.us metadata would be syndicated wherever the conversation went... blog post to blog post... and comment to comment across the web... ultimately creating more value throughout the space and driving more traffic and attention back to crowdabout.us. It's like mybloglog and their widget, or co.comments and their bookmarklet's and widgets. Hundreds of web2.0 companies use similar mechanisms. Oh... and... c) perhaps I overlooked the obvious, but if crowdabout.us doesn't already have it before even the two forementioned items crowdabout.us should provide easy re-blogging by hooking into the main blogging platforms API's. I should be able to click re-blog this while looking at any video on crowdabout.us and add reblog a video right from a specific time and leave my comments on my blog. Just day dreaming. Peace, -Mike mefeedia.com mmeiser.com/blog On 3/6/07, caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carter, I'm loving crowdabout. I've uploaded my videos and added time-based comments. Brilliant. I see what you mean about the authorship of comments being clear. And I see a few people from this list have signed up today. Hey Rupert! The feeling is mutual; I saw your Big Shave video on CrowdAbout and loved it! For my latest post on my blog, I replaced my Blip player with a crowdabout embedded 'slim' player just to see. Looks nice. But could you also provide an embeddable player that shows the timeline comments, perhaps showing the text of comments as a semi-opaque overlay on top of the video? I would be happy to have a bigger player for this - isn't that what the Innertoob player did? (i've been reading your blog) Even if it meant that when people wanted to add comments themselves, they were taken to the crowdabout site, that'd be fine - just seems to be missing the obvious to have an embedded crowdabout player without crowdabout's big feature. There's a balance to be played between giving people incentives to put you on their blogs and making people use the crowdabout website. Yeah, you have hit upon the biggest area of decision waffling we have going right now - the embeddable player. I just don't think we are going to strike a balance that makes everyone happy with it, to be honest. Some people have definite size/design requirements when selecting a player for their site. But since at heart we aren't just another player (we're a commenting system and a social community), it would make more sense to get those comments into the embedded player. But if we try to do both (keep it small AND add the comments) suddenly it starts to overwhelm the content. And we would be foolish to EVER think that our system's capabilities supercedes a vlogger's content. So our decision (for now, but we are incredibly open to suggestions) was to leave the player as the content display widget, with a comment button that would allow a viewer to to make the leap into participation. Keeping these two functions somewhat separate (viewing and participating) seems to be the best compromise. BUT- The subject lines of each time-post DO appear in the progress bar area, so you can scrub through the content to see what those subjects say. And keep in mind that audio podcasters are using the service, too, and their desire for a small player is even more demanding, since they don't need space to display video. Also, I couldn't find the Social Player at crowdabout where you said you'd left comment love - am i being stupid? Sorry, I should have been more clear. Social Player is what we call the interactive, or conversational player on the CrowdAbout site. What I should have said was that I used the Social Player to leave you some audio-comment love in one of your videos. And here's the link for one of those comments: http://crowdabout.us/jump_in/cae83f209f616c5df If you or anyone has ideas about a better way to bring the comment reading/interactivity into the
[videoblogging] Re: Anyone mixing video and geolocation outside of Google Maps?
Sounds very cool, Tony. I'm having problems with the link you provided, though, so I'll check back to see it in action later. Rupert (from this forum) is using google map links in the time-posts of his videos over at CrowdAbout.us. Poor guy is going to think I've started stalking him, but I was amazed and pleased to see just how immediate and contextual information like this is, when presented along with video, and how it helped to make the connection to the content and the creator more tangible. It's got me thinking we should even make it an option, and turn the link into the map display right in the post. Best, Carter Harkins http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Select any video interview at the link below to see the feature at work. Underneath the video that plays, you'll find a UI with the eight geographically closest videos in that same language. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton marforton@ wrote: This is my first post - been lurkig for a few months. Just a quick question to see if anyone is doing any work in the area of online video and geolocation outside of a Google Maps interface. We've developed a beta UI feature that finds the geographically closest videos based on some user derived context. In the case of our beta functionality, the contexts are limited to video language and location of the selected video. A bit more coding would make almost any context driven filtering possible. The feature works with any of our interviews found at http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp . Choosing an interview from Central America (Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua) will best demonstrate that the functionality works across national borders. Thoughts on the functionality? Have others implemented similar contextual functionality with video or working on integrating geolocation with video outside of a Google maps interface? Regards Tony [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Anyone mixing video and geolocation outside of Google Maps?
The site is back now. Sorry, it wasn't us. Please try again. T --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds very cool, Tony. I'm having problems with the link you provided, though, so I'll check back to see it in action later. Rupert (from this forum) is using google map links in the time-posts of his videos over at CrowdAbout.us. Poor guy is going to think I've started stalking him, but I was amazed and pleased to see just how immediate and contextual information like this is, when presented along with video, and how it helped to make the connection to the content and the creator more tangible. It's got me thinking we should even make it an option, and turn the link into the map display right in the post. Best, Carter Harkins http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton marforton@ wrote: Select any video interview at the link below to see the feature at work. Underneath the video that plays, you'll find a UI with the eight geographically closest videos in that same language. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton marforton@ wrote: This is my first post - been lurkig for a few months. Just a quick question to see if anyone is doing any work in the area of online video and geolocation outside of a Google Maps interface. We've developed a beta UI feature that finds the geographically closest videos based on some user derived context. In the case of our beta functionality, the contexts are limited to video language and location of the selected video. A bit more coding would make almost any context driven filtering possible. The feature works with any of our interviews found at http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp . Choosing an interview from Central America (Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua) will best demonstrate that the functionality works across national borders. Thoughts on the functionality? Have others implemented similar contextual functionality with video or working on integrating geolocation with video outside of a Google maps interface? Regards Tony [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] video Blogging Week 2007
It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007 April 1-7 2007 prepare yourselves! -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] video Blogging Week 2007
Cool! So - what does one do on videoblogging week? david On 3/7/07, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007 April 1-7 2007 prepare yourselves! -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- David King davidleeking.com - blog http://davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
Cheers. I think I still use the hammer too much myself, even though I have other tools available! Youtube was not the obvious candidate in my mind when talking about video conversations here in the past, but as they have a critical mass of users, and at some point added the video responses feature, it was the first big instance Id seen of this stuff actually happening. Forums/messageboards were where I cut my net communications teeth in text, and so Ive ocasionally waffled here about how I wanted to see video fused with the messageboard way of things. I wondered how it would be done, whether people would actually use it. Im still wondering because things havent reached that stage yet, but at least there are a few services out there such as yours, and youtube has at least stuck its toe into the water. Anyway I would like to think that there'd have been more people joining in this conversation if it were happenign a year or 2 ago, I dunoo, it seems harder to have a long conversation about what features people dream of these days, perhaps because people basic needs are already satisfied. All the same I hope there are actually a mass of people passionately excited about all these sorts of alternative extra uses for video on the net. I like shows and everything else thats happening but I yearn for the days when there was a chance that any day you coudl logon and find some individual has created some funky tool, that whilst primitive shows the potential of the future. It felt like there were no frontiers, now much talk seems to centre around re-crossing the frontiers that the mass media previously filled with concrete, but I fear far too much replication of TV and the old ways, leading to mothing different enough to truly stir my passions. Anyway I definately agree with others that its pretty essential that your comment system be built into the embedded player. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts in finding differences. I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in your kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a nail. As someone spending a great deal of time thinking about how to build social tools, I'm perhaps all too quick to criticize YouTube's hammer (in this case, their comment feature). In doing this, I'm not about to criticize content creators who use YouTube for what it does best: getting video up on the web and available to a massively large potential audience. I put things on YouTube when that is my goal. When I want to have more control over my files, and need to use the content in many different ways, I've found blip.tv to be an indispensible tool. But if I want to have conversations using video content as the starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube. This is partly because of an admittedly snobbish opinion of the quality of conversation taking place there, but it's also because I don't think the commenting system they have deployed is good for much else beyond the quick drive-by style comment. This snobbery does not extend to content creators, though. And while I'm making admissions, I will additionally confess that I am wildly idealistic about how our collective community of content creators can mold and shape the fabric of the internet, as well as the discussions taking place not only in this medium, but offline as well. But as a builder of tools, I try (although I probably don't always succeed) to just build something cool, and then let others tell me how they prefer to use it. I am often surprised to learn the ways that people are using a tool for an advantage I never would have imagined in a hundred years. The creativity of others is inspiring, to say the least. And much of that inspiration is viewable on YouTube. Best, Carter Harkins http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: There was some talk in this group about youtuber's that I thought was a bit snobbish a while ago, because it made me rant, but it was probably only mild and it can be hard to seperate criticism of the service with those using it sometimes. But on a certain level I would not be surprised if the 'brand repputation' of youtube can heavily influence the reputation of someone posting there. I could forsee plenty of exceptions, a show that gets enough attention will be talked about in terms of itself, that its on youtube is incidental. And this just re-inforces the fact that one off clips, copyrighted stuff, other popular 'viral' videos without a strong identity of their own are what will link most strongly to the word 'youtube'. If there is any snobbishness around, I suppose its bourn from some peoples high expectations and ideals about what videoblogging would be used for. What I could describe as the
Re: [videoblogging] video Blogging Week 2007
YAYYY On 7 Mar 2007, at 20:04, Josh Leo wrote: It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007 April 1-7 2007 prepare yourselves! -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007
Post a video every day for a week. Generally it's based on a theme. Last year it was Vlogging Dangerously. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool! So - what does one do on videoblogging week? david On 3/7/07, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007 April 1-7 2007 prepare yourselves! -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- David King davidleeking.com - blog http://davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] video Blogging Week 2007
I was just thinking about this earlier today.. random. 1 video a day for 7 days straight! Looking fwd to it. -Chris -- -- http://www.ChrisDanielVideos.com (video blog) http://nTune.tv On 3/7/07, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007 April 1-7 2007 prepare yourselves! -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: crowdabout.us (was blog vs youtube myspace)
Mike, On the money. I agree with all you say - all that would be great, if possible. At the moment Crowdabout is just fed off your feed, with flv files from Blip or wherever automatically added. I'm guessing that cross-commenting using all the APIs and widgets would be a monster job given how they're set up at the moment, but would be very cool and big driver for crowdabout users. Rupert On 7 Mar 2007, at 19:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the most interesting bit of conversation I've read in a while. I'm spent but I wanted to just say this. The trick with time based commenting is to make it live in the ecosystem... NOT just on crowdabout.us. I love the idea of the embedded player. Watch the video and make time based comments right in the blog. I'll go one further thought. This is just off the top of my head but Crowdabout.us could then post that time based comment BACK to the comments in the bloggers own page so that the time based comments could be followed not ONLY in the flash widget, but would be a PART of the established comments section. The key would be... a) gaining access to the blogger, MT, and Wordpress API's by allowing crowdabout.us users to claim their blog. b) developing a light semantic markup or microformat for leaving time based comments from crowdabout.us IN the comments on blogs. This would ensure that all the crowdabout.us metadata would be syndicated wherever the conversation went... blog post to blog post... and comment to comment across the web... ultimately creating more value throughout the space and driving more traffic and attention back to crowdabout.us. It's like mybloglog and their widget, or co.comments and their bookmarklet's and widgets. Hundreds of web2.0 companies use similar mechanisms. Oh... and... c) perhaps I overlooked the obvious, but if crowdabout.us doesn't already have it before even the two forementioned items crowdabout.us should provide easy re-blogging by hooking into the main blogging platforms API's. I should be able to click re-blog this while looking at any video on crowdabout.us and add reblog a video right from a specific time and leave my comments on my blog. Just day dreaming. Peace, -Mike mefeedia.com mmeiser.com/blog On 3/6/07, caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carter, I'm loving crowdabout. I've uploaded my videos and added time-based comments. Brilliant. I see what you mean about the authorship of comments being clear. And I see a few people from this list have signed up today. Hey Rupert! The feeling is mutual; I saw your Big Shave video on CrowdAbout and loved it! For my latest post on my blog, I replaced my Blip player with a crowdabout embedded 'slim' player just to see. Looks nice. But could you also provide an embeddable player that shows the timeline comments, perhaps showing the text of comments as a semi-opaque overlay on top of the video? I would be happy to have a bigger player for this - isn't that what the Innertoob player did? (i've been reading your blog) Even if it meant that when people wanted to add comments themselves, they were taken to the crowdabout site, that'd be fine - just seems to be missing the obvious to have an embedded crowdabout player without crowdabout's big feature. There's a balance to be played between giving people incentives to put you on their blogs and making people use the crowdabout website. Yeah, you have hit upon the biggest area of decision waffling we have going right now - the embeddable player. I just don't think we are going to strike a balance that makes everyone happy with it, to be honest. Some people have definite size/design requirements when selecting a player for their site. But since at heart we aren't just another player (we're a commenting system and a social community), it would make more sense to get those comments into the embedded player. But if we try to do both (keep it small AND add the comments) suddenly it starts to overwhelm the content. And we would be foolish to EVER think that our system's capabilities supercedes a vlogger's content. So our decision (for now, but we are incredibly open to suggestions) was to leave the player as the content display widget, with a comment button that would allow a viewer to to make the leap into participation. Keeping these two functions somewhat separate (viewing and participating) seems to be the best compromise. BUT- The subject lines of each time-post DO appear in the progress bar area, so you can scrub through the content to see what those subjects say. And keep in mind that audio podcasters are using the service, too, and their desire for a small player is even more demanding, since they don't need space to display video. Also, I couldn't find the Social Player at crowdabout where you said you'd
Re: [videoblogging] video Blogging Week 2007
official announcement: http://wearethemedia.com/2007/03/07/videoblogging-week-2007/ On 3/7/07, Chris Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just thinking about this earlier today.. random. 1 video a day for 7 days straight! Looking fwd to it. -Chris -- -- http://www.ChrisDanielVideos.com (video blog) http://nTune.tv On 3/7/07, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] joshleo%40gmail.com wrote: It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007 April 1-7 2007 prepare yourselves! -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Fwd: Opera proposed Theora for native video playback in browsers
That is interesting news. I always go on about mpeg4 and h264 as if they are the ideal, wheras in an ideal world something like ogg theora would be the most worthwhile format to support - being open and unburdened by much intellectual property horror. In practice I rarely respond when you mention this sort of stuff, only because such things hav not gained widespread popular support from the majority of users who are on windows or os x. Having dabbled with Linux I presume that most Linux users are used to having to put in some extra effort to think about these things, and choose open formats. If only the same enthusiasm could be transferred over to people on other paltforms. There desnt seem to be much of a problem with playing back theora files on OSX or Windows, as VLC and some other apps can play it, and quicktime directshow stuff are available to enable playback within those systems. There does seem to be a lack of nice easy well-known encoder applications with proper GUI. The masses arent going to use command line tools, so where are the developers to bridge the gap? I tried to use VLC on the mac to encode, using its ability to transcode, but I only got the audio in the resulting ogg file, the video went missing somewhere. I will try again sometime. Anyway I support strongly the idea of video being built into a future HTML spec, and being supported as standard in browsers. I There could be problems if peoplew ont use the format till all browsers support it, if microsoft or apple dont want to play ball, they will only be forced to if sites use and expect such features and it helps drive more people to firefox or opera. But will sites use such a format if others like flash are well established already? Anyway I hope this initiative leads to something. I suppose the other issue I could have is how rich the control of the video is within the page. Need to be able to do things like report back to javascript what position in the timeline the video is at, if clever stuff (that can currently be done in flash) such as video conversations linked off timeline, are to be achieved using the built-in video feature. Returning to Theora as a whole, my other issue is with hardware playback recording support, and the chances of it being used on mobile phones etc. Its still too early to tell quite how big an issue these things are, has to catch on with the masses, but mpeg4 and friends are looking fairly entrenched on these platforms so far. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awesome news! -- Forwarded message -- From: Luis Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mar 5, 2007 2:23 PM Subject: [theora] Opera proposed Theora for native video playback in browsers To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi , I see this news in Opera website : http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/2007/03/05/1 I think this is a good news for Theora Team and also a greater news if video tag becomes true. This extract of the website is incredible : 'One thing to keep in mind that adding native support for Theora in Opera would only add about 300K to Opera's overall size! And I am sure that could even be optimized to reduce it even further.' _ ___ theora mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/theora -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ ___ Cars, Motorcycles, Trucks, and Racing... http://tirebiterz.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007
ah, video blogging week, when we used to have fun, hold hands, dream of a better tommorrow and sing a little song called video blogging week http://blip.tv/file/get/Joshleo-anOdeToVideobloggingWeek2006751.mov yes, I long for days such as these.Oh, how my heart aches for the simple days of vlogging before money, power and fame, before shows, beforeoh the hell with it.. Rock on, what's the theme? ;) Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007 April 1-7 2007 prepare yourselves! -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
Carter (I think) said: But if I want to have conversations using video content as the starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube. Help me out here - why is it an either/or thing with using Youtube for conversations? I'm not getting that. Because Youtube works basically the same as any other video hosting service - you can still embed your youtube videos on your real blog, and basically ignore the youtube part of it. You still get your videoblog's rss feed, and you still get your videoblog's comments... Other than the video ownership thing and downloading, what's the diff? david So you can still do rss On 3/7/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheers. I think I still use the hammer too much myself, even though I have other tools available! Youtube was not the obvious candidate in my mind when talking about video conversations here in the past, but as they have a critical mass of users, and at some point added the video responses feature, it was the first big instance Id seen of this stuff actually happening. Forums/messageboards were where I cut my net communications teeth in text, and so Ive ocasionally waffled here about how I wanted to see video fused with the messageboard way of things. I wondered how it would be done, whether people would actually use it. Im still wondering because things havent reached that stage yet, but at least there are a few services out there such as yours, and youtube has at least stuck its toe into the water. Anyway I would like to think that there'd have been more people joining in this conversation if it were happenign a year or 2 ago, I dunoo, it seems harder to have a long conversation about what features people dream of these days, perhaps because people basic needs are already satisfied. All the same I hope there are actually a mass of people passionately excited about all these sorts of alternative extra uses for video on the net. I like shows and everything else thats happening but I yearn for the days when there was a chance that any day you coudl logon and find some individual has created some funky tool, that whilst primitive shows the potential of the future. It felt like there were no frontiers, now much talk seems to centre around re-crossing the frontiers that the mass media previously filled with concrete, but I fear far too much replication of TV and the old ways, leading to mothing different enough to truly stir my passions. Anyway I definately agree with others that its pretty essential that your comment system be built into the embedded player. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts in finding differences. I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in your kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a nail. As someone spending a great deal of time thinking about how to build social tools, I'm perhaps all too quick to criticize YouTube's hammer (in this case, their comment feature). In doing this, I'm not about to criticize content creators who use YouTube for what it does best: getting video up on the web and available to a massively large potential audience. I put things on YouTube when that is my goal. When I want to have more control over my files, and need to use the content in many different ways, I've found blip.tv to be an indispensible tool. But if I want to have conversations using video content as the starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube. This is partly because of an admittedly snobbish opinion of the quality of conversation taking place there, but it's also because I don't think the commenting system they have deployed is good for much else beyond the quick drive-by style comment. This snobbery does not extend to content creators, though. And while I'm making admissions, I will additionally confess that I am wildly idealistic about how our collective community of content creators can mold and shape the fabric of the internet, as well as the discussions taking place not only in this medium, but offline as well. But as a builder of tools, I try (although I probably don't always succeed) to just build something cool, and then let others tell me how they prefer to use it. I am often surprised to learn the ways that people are using a tool for an advantage I never would have imagined in a hundred years. The creativity of others is inspiring, to say the least. And much of that inspiration is viewable on YouTube. Best, Carter Harkins http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: There was some talk in this group about youtuber's that I thought was a bit snobbish a while ago, because it made me rant, but it was probably
[videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007
Shows arent going anywhere but we could always run away from them. Come burn your wallets and come with me, to a land where conversation is the currency, to a dimension unburdened by the compromises tat cash forces on humans. Hmm proably needs a snappier title if Im going to sell that as a possible theme for the week ;) Selling out is a persona thing, as you are only selling yourself short of previously held ideals. I havent vlogged properly so I cant look back and judge myself of 2.5 years ago to see how much Ive compromised, my vlog is pure by not existing lol. So anyway Im in no position to get up on some moral mountain and start preeching but what the heck, the terrible shame is that potentially those most passiante about vlogging could 'sell out' the most, because they are more likely to want to do it fulltime and thats where money becomes a real pressing issue, inviting compromise into your heart and seeing if you can live with the self-imposed restraints on freedom that almost all financial relationships bring in one way or another. Meanwhile I sell out in a different way, by keeping the day job which feeds me but robs me of the time necessary to do what I actually want to do with video, ie something, anything. Obvously I could save hours a day b not talking here, and use that to vlog, but as I havent managed to do that in 2.5 years its more likely to happen if my dayjob comes to a crashing end. So you never know I could participate in vlog week this year if I go insane (or get sane) and resign, but my credit card balance tells me Ive imprisoned myself for years to come. Cheers Steve Elbows. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ah, video blogging week, when we used to have fun, hold hands, dream of a better tommorrow and sing a little song called video blogging week http://blip.tv/file/get/Joshleo-anOdeToVideobloggingWeek2006751.mov yes, I long for days such as these.Oh, how my heart aches for the simple days of vlogging before money, power and fame, before shows, beforeoh the hell with it.. Rock on, what's the theme? ;) Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo joshleo@ wrote: It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007 April 1-7 2007 prepare yourselves! -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Anyone mixing video and geolocation outside of Google Maps?
Thanks, Carter :D A built in option to leave map images would be great, if you can find an easy way to plug in the Google Maps API. Just giving the links has been fun. Actually, maybe you don't even have to call the map image into the frame. I have dreamed (as I mentioned before) of a whole bunch of different types of time-based icons hotspots built into the player - timeline based icons that appear at one side at specific times - an icon that shows a map, another icon that opens an info page... a wide selection of different icons that the author could choose from that could represent all sorts of links/info - like the different icons in Google Earth community posts that show whether a placemark is a photo, video, blog entry, whatever. Maybe these icons could be something we can click and paste into the Time Post pane below the player in Crowdabout.us - so that an author clicks on the icon he wants, adds the URL and the viewer just sees a clickable icon as a post/comment rather than all the longwinded text of the map URL like I've done. Rich, rich, rich! I've been leaving you audio comments in return to yours, talking into my laptop while my wife stares at me as if I'm mad. Love audio comments. Wish I had a Macbook with built in iSight so I could stare at the lens while I talk. For anyone who feels mad talking into a lens as if you're talking to a real person, I highly recommend http://www.zefrank.com today. It's genius. Rupert http://www.fatgirlinohio.org/ http://www.crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/ On 7 Mar 2007, at 19:17, caroosky wrote: Sounds very cool, Tony. I'm having problems with the link you provided, though, so I'll check back to see it in action later. Rupert (from this forum) is using google map links in the time-posts of his videos over at CrowdAbout.us. Poor guy is going to think I've started stalking him, but I was amazed and pleased to see just how immediate and contextual information like this is, when presented along with video, and how it helped to make the connection to the content and the creator more tangible. It's got me thinking we should even make it an option, and turn the link into the map display right in the post. Best, Carter Harkins http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Select any video interview at the link below to see the feature at work. Underneath the video that plays, you'll find a UI with the eight geographically closest videos in that same language. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton marforton@ wrote: This is my first post - been lurkig for a few months. Just a quick question to see if anyone is doing any work in the area of online video and geolocation outside of a Google Maps interface. We've developed a beta UI feature that finds the geographically closest videos based on some user derived context. In the case of our beta functionality, the contexts are limited to video language and location of the selected video. A bit more coding would make almost any context driven filtering possible. The feature works with any of our interviews found at http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp . Choosing an interview from Central America (Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua) will best demonstrate that the functionality works across national borders. Thoughts on the functionality? Have others implemented similar contextual functionality with video or working on integrating geolocation with video outside of a Google maps interface? Regards Tony [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: VON Roll Call
I'll be at VON (wish I could go to SXSW too, but have to be in the DC area). Will be sure to stop by and check out the new FireAnt! Mefeedia was going to do an exhibit at VON, but we are still in ramp up mode. We will be there in person, however, to show anyone who wants to listen the new Mefeedia. Frank Sinton CEO, Mefeedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mefeedia.com - Find great videoblogs and podcasts. Our blog: http://mefeedia.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be at VON and look forward to seeing everyone! FireAnt will be presenting in the Video Pavilion and giving a demo of our latest stuff. See you there... Best, Josh On 3/7/07, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be there as well. Schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://webshots.com/is/spotlight http://hatfactory.net http://evilvlog.com On 3/6/07, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was another thread started on this topic. I will be there as will Miss Casey McKinnon. At the Portable Media Expo, I made sticky badges for all of us to indicate video people in the midst of many audio people. I can do this again if there's interest. Only here, the conference is about video on the net, so perhaps it should be some sort of original content producer thingy. Or maybe not necessary at all. Rox On 3/6/07, amani_c [EMAIL PROTECTED] amani_c%40yahoo.com wrote: Amani Channel is at VON WestCoastin it. Fa shizzle! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Bloom jonathan@ wrote: Well, since everyone is doing a roll call for SXSW I propose one for VON. I'll be in California before and after the Conference on a vacation with my family. So if your at VON it'd be awesome to say hi. -- -Jonathan Bloom http://thenameiwantedwastaken.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian 808-384-5554 http://www.beachwalks.tv http://www.barefeetshop.com http://www.barefeetstudios.com http://www.inthetransition.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] video Blogging Week 2007
Cool! That's also the same as http://superhappyvloghouse.pbwiki.com weekend Good way to get a start on the week Markus On Mar 7, 2007, at 12:04 PM, Josh Leo wrote: It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007 April 1-7 2007 prepare yourselves! --- Markus Sandy http://feeds.feedburner.com/havemoneywillvlog http://feeds.feedburner.com/apperceptions http://feeds.feedburner.com/digitaldojo http://feeds.feedburner.com/spinflow [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007
Elbows, I BEG you to videoblog this videobloggingweek. Don't edit too much or muck about. Just post 30 seconds of something every day. FEEL THE FEAR/APATHY/INDIFFERENCE AND DO IT ANYWAY! :-)) On 7 Mar 2007, at 20:36, Steve Watkins wrote: Shows arent going anywhere but we could always run away from them. Come burn your wallets and come with me, to a land where conversation is the currency, to a dimension unburdened by the compromises tat cash forces on humans. Hmm proably needs a snappier title if Im going to sell that as a possible theme for the week ;) Selling out is a persona thing, as you are only selling yourself short of previously held ideals. I havent vlogged properly so I cant look back and judge myself of 2.5 years ago to see how much Ive compromised, my vlog is pure by not existing lol. So anyway Im in no position to get up on some moral mountain and start preeching but what the heck, the terrible shame is that potentially those most passiante about vlogging could 'sell out' the most, because they are more likely to want to do it fulltime and thats where money becomes a real pressing issue, inviting compromise into your heart and seeing if you can live with the self-imposed restraints on freedom that almost all financial relationships bring in one way or another. Meanwhile I sell out in a different way, by keeping the day job which feeds me but robs me of the time necessary to do what I actually want to do with video, ie something, anything. Obvously I could save hours a day b not talking here, and use that to vlog, but as I havent managed to do that in 2.5 years its more likely to happen if my dayjob comes to a crashing end. So you never know I could participate in vlog week this year if I go insane (or get sane) and resign, but my credit card balance tells me Ive imprisoned myself for years to come. Cheers Steve Elbows. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ah, video blogging week, when we used to have fun, hold hands, dream of a better tommorrow and sing a little song called video blogging week http://blip.tv/file/get/Joshleo-anOdeToVideobloggingWeek2006751.mov yes, I long for days such as these.Oh, how my heart aches for the simple days of vlogging before money, power and fame, before shows, beforeoh the hell with it.. Rock on, what's the theme? ;) Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo joshleo@ wrote: It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007 April 1-7 2007 prepare yourselves! -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
David, Steve W. pointed out a thread from last summer (also initiated by Peter). http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/47091 It doesnt have to be an either/or scenario. Though it certainly can be for some. I have always said to use the YouTubesque services to your benefit if needed and to also maintain your own controllable space (site/blog/domain). Everyone is different and most people on this list, at least i can assume, DO have their own sites and do not only rely on any service, not even blip. It is a mix of being more serious, dedicated, savvy and adoptive of grassroots type of technologies. I dont know of anyone here who only has a myspace page, a youtube profile and a flickr account. Most take it the next level. sull On 07 Mar 2007 12:31:26 -0800, David King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carter (I think) said: But if I want to have conversations using video content as the starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube. Help me out here - why is it an either/or thing with using Youtube for conversations? I'm not getting that. Because Youtube works basically the same as any other video hosting service - you can still embed your youtube videos on your real blog, and basically ignore the youtube part of it. You still get your videoblog's rss feed, and you still get your videoblog's comments... Other than the video ownership thing and downloading, what's the diff? david So you can still do rss On 3/7/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] steve%40dvmachine.com wrote: Cheers. I think I still use the hammer too much myself, even though I have other tools available! Youtube was not the obvious candidate in my mind when talking about video conversations here in the past, but as they have a critical mass of users, and at some point added the video responses feature, it was the first big instance Id seen of this stuff actually happening. Forums/messageboards were where I cut my net communications teeth in text, and so Ive ocasionally waffled here about how I wanted to see video fused with the messageboard way of things. I wondered how it would be done, whether people would actually use it. Im still wondering because things havent reached that stage yet, but at least there are a few services out there such as yours, and youtube has at least stuck its toe into the water. Anyway I would like to think that there'd have been more people joining in this conversation if it were happenign a year or 2 ago, I dunoo, it seems harder to have a long conversation about what features people dream of these days, perhaps because people basic needs are already satisfied. All the same I hope there are actually a mass of people passionately excited about all these sorts of alternative extra uses for video on the net. I like shows and everything else thats happening but I yearn for the days when there was a chance that any day you coudl logon and find some individual has created some funky tool, that whilst primitive shows the potential of the future. It felt like there were no frontiers, now much talk seems to centre around re-crossing the frontiers that the mass media previously filled with concrete, but I fear far too much replication of TV and the old ways, leading to mothing different enough to truly stir my passions. Anyway I definately agree with others that its pretty essential that your comment system be built into the embedded player. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts in finding differences. I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in your kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a nail. As someone spending a great deal of time thinking about how to build social tools, I'm perhaps all too quick to criticize YouTube's hammer (in this case, their comment feature). In doing this, I'm not about to criticize content creators who use YouTube for what it does best: getting video up on the web and available to a massively large potential audience. I put things on YouTube when that is my goal. When I want to have more control over my files, and need to use the content in many different ways, I've found blip.tv to be an indispensible tool. But if I want to have conversations using video content as the starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube. This is partly because of an admittedly snobbish opinion of the quality of conversation taking place there, but it's also because I don't think the commenting system they have deployed is good for much else beyond the quick drive-by style comment. This snobbery does not extend to content creators, though. And while I'm making admissions, I will
Re: [videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007
promotional images: use these in blog posts etc... banner: http://wearethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlogweek07banner.gif squarish logo: http://wearethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlogweek07logo.gif link to the We Are The Media post and be ready for updates in the next few days/weeks! On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elbows, I BEG you to videoblog this videobloggingweek. Don't edit too much or muck about. Just post 30 seconds of something every day. FEEL THE FEAR/APATHY/INDIFFERENCE AND DO IT ANYWAY! :-)) On 7 Mar 2007, at 20:36, Steve Watkins wrote: Shows arent going anywhere but we could always run away from them. Come burn your wallets and come with me, to a land where conversation is the currency, to a dimension unburdened by the compromises tat cash forces on humans. Hmm proably needs a snappier title if Im going to sell that as a possible theme for the week ;) Selling out is a persona thing, as you are only selling yourself short of previously held ideals. I havent vlogged properly so I cant look back and judge myself of 2.5 years ago to see how much Ive compromised, my vlog is pure by not existing lol. So anyway Im in no position to get up on some moral mountain and start preeching but what the heck, the terrible shame is that potentially those most passiante about vlogging could 'sell out' the most, because they are more likely to want to do it fulltime and thats where money becomes a real pressing issue, inviting compromise into your heart and seeing if you can live with the self-imposed restraints on freedom that almost all financial relationships bring in one way or another. Meanwhile I sell out in a different way, by keeping the day job which feeds me but robs me of the time necessary to do what I actually want to do with video, ie something, anything. Obvously I could save hours a day b not talking here, and use that to vlog, but as I havent managed to do that in 2.5 years its more likely to happen if my dayjob comes to a crashing end. So you never know I could participate in vlog week this year if I go insane (or get sane) and resign, but my credit card balance tells me Ive imprisoned myself for years to come. Cheers Steve Elbows. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ah, video blogging week, when we used to have fun, hold hands, dream of a better tommorrow and sing a little song called video blogging week http://blip.tv/file/get/Joshleo-anOdeToVideobloggingWeek2006751.mov yes, I long for days such as these.Oh, how my heart aches for the simple days of vlogging before money, power and fame, before shows, beforeoh the hell with it.. Rock on, what's the theme? ;) Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo joshleo@ wrote: It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007 April 1-7 2007 prepare yourselves! -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007
images with dates: banner: http://wearethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlogweek_07banner.gif square: http://wearethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlogweek_07logo.gif On 3/7/07, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: promotional images: use these in blog posts etc... banner: http://wearethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlogweek07banner.gif squarish logo: http://wearethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlogweek07logo.gif link to the We Are The Media post and be ready for updates in the next few days/weeks! On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elbows, I BEG you to videoblog this videobloggingweek. Don't edit too much or muck about. Just post 30 seconds of something every day. FEEL THE FEAR/APATHY/INDIFFERENCE AND DO IT ANYWAY! :-)) On 7 Mar 2007, at 20:36, Steve Watkins wrote: Shows arent going anywhere but we could always run away from them. Come burn your wallets and come with me, to a land where conversation is the currency, to a dimension unburdened by the compromises tat cash forces on humans. Hmm proably needs a snappier title if Im going to sell that as a possible theme for the week ;) Selling out is a persona thing, as you are only selling yourself short of previously held ideals. I havent vlogged properly so I cant look back and judge myself of 2.5 years ago to see how much Ive compromised, my vlog is pure by not existing lol. So anyway Im in no position to get up on some moral mountain and start preeching but what the heck, the terrible shame is that potentially those most passiante about vlogging could 'sell out' the most, because they are more likely to want to do it fulltime and thats where money becomes a real pressing issue, inviting compromise into your heart and seeing if you can live with the self-imposed restraints on freedom that almost all financial relationships bring in one way or another. Meanwhile I sell out in a different way, by keeping the day job which feeds me but robs me of the time necessary to do what I actually want to do with video, ie something, anything. Obvously I could save hours a day b not talking here, and use that to vlog, but as I havent managed to do that in 2.5 years its more likely to happen if my dayjob comes to a crashing end. So you never know I could participate in vlog week this year if I go insane (or get sane) and resign, but my credit card balance tells me Ive imprisoned myself for years to come. Cheers Steve Elbows. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ah, video blogging week, when we used to have fun, hold hands, dream of a better tommorrow and sing a little song called video blogging week http://blip.tv/file/get/Joshleo-anOdeToVideobloggingWeek2006751.mov yes, I long for days such as these.Oh, how my heart aches for the simple days of vlogging before money, power and fame, before shows, beforeoh the hell with it.. Rock on, what's the theme? ;) Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo joshleo@ wrote: It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007 April 1-7 2007 prepare yourselves! -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: crowdabout.us (was blog vs youtube myspace)
Wow. Thanks, Mike. That's just the sort of reasoned, insider/developer sorts of comments I had hoped to be able to get from this forum, and one of many reasons I'm thrilled to be involved here. Just awesome. (I just deleted about three paragraphs here that, had I sent the message, would have given you an almost thorough look into our strategic plans for the near future. I decided, after a bite to eat, that it wasn't wise to let the cat out of the bag just yet. So I will exercise restraint as the better part of valor, and simply say instead that we are working hard to change forever the way podcasters and vloggers publish.) Any additional feedback from anyone using CrowdAbout.us would be MOST welcome and appreciated. Thanks again, Mike! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the most interesting bit of conversation I've read in a while. I'm spent but I wanted to just say this. The trick with time based commenting is to make it live in the ecosystem... NOT just on crowdabout.us. I love the idea of the embedded player. Watch the video and make time based comments right in the blog. I'll go one further thought. This is just off the top of my head but Crowdabout.us could then post that time based comment BACK to the comments in the bloggers own page so that the time based comments could be followed not ONLY in the flash widget, but would be a PART of the established comments section. The key would be... a) gaining access to the blogger, MT, and Wordpress API's by allowing crowdabout.us users to claim their blog. b) developing a light semantic markup or microformat for leaving time based comments from crowdabout.us IN the comments on blogs. This would ensure that all the crowdabout.us metadata would be syndicated wherever the conversation went... blog post to blog post... and comment to comment across the web... ultimately creating more value throughout the space and driving more traffic and attention back to crowdabout.us. It's like mybloglog and their widget, or co.comments and their bookmarklet's and widgets. Hundreds of web2.0 companies use similar mechanisms. Oh... and... c) perhaps I overlooked the obvious, but if crowdabout.us doesn't already have it before even the two forementioned items crowdabout.us should provide easy re-blogging by hooking into the main blogging platforms API's. I should be able to click re-blog this while looking at any video on crowdabout.us and add reblog a video right from a specific time and leave my comments on my blog. Just day dreaming. Peace, -Mike mefeedia.com mmeiser.com/blog On 3/6/07, caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote: Carter, I'm loving crowdabout. I've uploaded my videos and added time-based comments. Brilliant. I see what you mean about the authorship of comments being clear. And I see a few people from this list have signed up today. Hey Rupert! The feeling is mutual; I saw your Big Shave video on CrowdAbout and loved it! For my latest post on my blog, I replaced my Blip player with a crowdabout embedded 'slim' player just to see. Looks nice. But could you also provide an embeddable player that shows the timeline comments, perhaps showing the text of comments as a semi-opaque overlay on top of the video? I would be happy to have a bigger player for this - isn't that what the Innertoob player did? (i've been reading your blog) Even if it meant that when people wanted to add comments themselves, they were taken to the crowdabout site, that'd be fine - just seems to be missing the obvious to have an embedded crowdabout player without crowdabout's big feature. There's a balance to be played between giving people incentives to put you on their blogs and making people use the crowdabout website. Yeah, you have hit upon the biggest area of decision waffling we have going right now - the embeddable player. I just don't think we are going to strike a balance that makes everyone happy with it, to be honest. Some people have definite size/design requirements when selecting a player for their site. But since at heart we aren't just another player (we're a commenting system and a social community), it would make more sense to get those comments into the embedded player. But if we try to do both (keep it small AND add the comments) suddenly it starts to overwhelm the content. And we would be foolish to EVER think that our system's capabilities supercedes a vlogger's content. So our decision (for now, but we are incredibly open to suggestions) was to leave the player as the content display widget, with a comment button that would allow a viewer to to make the leap into participation. Keeping these two functions somewhat separate (viewing and participating) seems to be the best compromise.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007
this will be the 4th videoblogging week! the 1st: http://www.solitude.dk/archives/vog-week/ the 2nd: http://videobloggingweek2005.blogspot.com/ the 3rd: http://videobloggingweek2006.blogspot.com/ On 3/7/07, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: images with dates: banner: http://wearethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlogweek_07banner.gif square: http://wearethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlogweek_07logo.gif On 3/7/07, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] joshleo%40gmail.com wrote: promotional images: use these in blog posts etc... banner: http://wearethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlogweek07banner.gif squarish logo: http://wearethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/vlogweek07logo.gif link to the We Are The Media post and be ready for updates in the next few days/weeks! On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org wrote: Elbows, I BEG you to videoblog this videobloggingweek. Don't edit too much or muck about. Just post 30 seconds of something every day. FEEL THE FEAR/APATHY/INDIFFERENCE AND DO IT ANYWAY! :-)) On 7 Mar 2007, at 20:36, Steve Watkins wrote: Shows arent going anywhere but we could always run away from them. Come burn your wallets and come with me, to a land where conversation is the currency, to a dimension unburdened by the compromises tat cash forces on humans. Hmm proably needs a snappier title if Im going to sell that as a possible theme for the week ;) Selling out is a persona thing, as you are only selling yourself short of previously held ideals. I havent vlogged properly so I cant look back and judge myself of 2.5 years ago to see how much Ive compromised, my vlog is pure by not existing lol. So anyway Im in no position to get up on some moral mountain and start preeching but what the heck, the terrible shame is that potentially those most passiante about vlogging could 'sell out' the most, because they are more likely to want to do it fulltime and thats where money becomes a real pressing issue, inviting compromise into your heart and seeing if you can live with the self-imposed restraints on freedom that almost all financial relationships bring in one way or another. Meanwhile I sell out in a different way, by keeping the day job which feeds me but robs me of the time necessary to do what I actually want to do with video, ie something, anything. Obvously I could save hours a day b not talking here, and use that to vlog, but as I havent managed to do that in 2.5 years its more likely to happen if my dayjob comes to a crashing end. So you never know I could participate in vlog week this year if I go insane (or get sane) and resign, but my credit card balance tells me Ive imprisoned myself for years to come. Cheers Steve Elbows. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ah, video blogging week, when we used to have fun, hold hands, dream of a better tommorrow and sing a little song called video blogging week http://blip.tv/file/get/Joshleo-anOdeToVideobloggingWeek2006751.mov yes, I long for days such as these.Oh, how my heart aches for the simple days of vlogging before money, power and fame, before shows, beforeoh the hell with it.. Rock on, what's the theme? ;) Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo joshleo@ wrote: It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007 April 1-7 2007 prepare yourselves! -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Author of Secrets of Videoblogging http://tinyurl.com/me4vs Me http://RyanEdit.com, http://RyanIsHungry.com Educate http://FreeVlog.org, http://Node101.org Community Capitalism http://HaveMoneyWillVlog.com iChat/AIM VideoRodeo [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
I think the key is that what Carter was talking about (i'm putting words in his mouth here) was choosing a model for conversations between people, and I guess he particularly mentioned video comments. Looking at the way they do it in crowdabout, as a back forth thing, with audio video and text all part of the same block, they've chosen a very different model from the YouTube thing, which is very much more a hitrun text comment thing, with a tacked on videocomment thing encouraging a short attention span, often used by people trying to get views from more popular sites, and less about conversations. (in my limited experience). there seem to be more comments on YouTube than there are on most standalone vlogs - which is great. whether it's a conversation and a lasting connection is another matter. someone more experienced in building YouTube relationships should comment. (Only there aren't any here, because they think we hate them... lol) On 7 Mar 2007, at 20:31, David King wrote: Carter (I think) said: But if I want to have conversations using video content as the starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube. Help me out here - why is it an either/or thing with using Youtube for conversations? I'm not getting that. Because Youtube works basically the same as any other video hosting service - you can still embed your youtube videos on your real blog, and basically ignore the youtube part of it. You still get your videoblog's rss feed, and you still get your videoblog's comments... Other than the video ownership thing and downloading, what's the diff? david So you can still do rss On 3/7/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheers. I think I still use the hammer too much myself, even though I have other tools available! Youtube was not the obvious candidate in my mind when talking about video conversations here in the past, but as they have a critical mass of users, and at some point added the video responses feature, it was the first big instance Id seen of this stuff actually happening. Forums/messageboards were where I cut my net communications teeth in text, and so Ive ocasionally waffled here about how I wanted to see video fused with the messageboard way of things. I wondered how it would be done, whether people would actually use it. Im still wondering because things havent reached that stage yet, but at least there are a few services out there such as yours, and youtube has at least stuck its toe into the water. Anyway I would like to think that there'd have been more people joining in this conversation if it were happenign a year or 2 ago, I dunoo, it seems harder to have a long conversation about what features people dream of these days, perhaps because people basic needs are already satisfied. All the same I hope there are actually a mass of people passionately excited about all these sorts of alternative extra uses for video on the net. I like shows and everything else thats happening but I yearn for the days when there was a chance that any day you coudl logon and find some individual has created some funky tool, that whilst primitive shows the potential of the future. It felt like there were no frontiers, now much talk seems to centre around re-crossing the frontiers that the mass media previously filled with concrete, but I fear far too much replication of TV and the old ways, leading to mothing different enough to truly stir my passions. Anyway I definately agree with others that its pretty essential that your comment system be built into the embedded player. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com, caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts in finding differences. I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in your kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a nail. As someone spending a great deal of time thinking about how to build social tools, I'm perhaps all too quick to criticize YouTube's hammer (in this case, their comment feature). In doing this, I'm not about to criticize content creators who use YouTube for what it does best: getting video up on the web and available to a massively large potential audience. I put things on YouTube when that is my goal. When I want to have more control over my files, and need to use the content in many different ways, I've found blip.tv to be an indispensible tool. But if I want to have conversations using video content as the starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube. This is partly because of an admittedly snobbish opinion of the quality of conversation taking place there, but it's also because I don't think the commenting system they have deployed is good for much else beyond
[videoblogging] Next New Networks gets some love from Business Week.com
some news I found on BW http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2007/tc20070307_104759.htm By pulling together elements of video blogging, audience submissions, and a big dollop of branding, the ad-supported N3 plans over the next three years to build a network of 100 super-niche channels on everything from news to pets. To start, this new Internet take on the TV studio system—N3 launches on Mar. 8—will feature six channels on subjects ranging from do-it-yourself clothing to comic book news. these guys do my favorite auto videoblog VOD Cars -- Sean W. Bohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.seanbohan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] France Bans Citizen Journalists from Reporting Violence...please digg:)
Hey, Have you heard that France is trying to ban citizen journalism? Its unbelievably draconian... My college roommate wrote this--and I'd love for y'all to read it (and weep unfortunately) and digg it! http://www.digg.com/politics/France_Bans_Citizen_Journalists_from_Reporting_Violence_Makes_US_Look_Good Thanks! cheers, Sarah From: David King [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:24:12 -0600 That's what I think, too - so that's cool. I'm so completely amazed that this is still so new - what will it look like in 2008? Who knows - but it'll sure be fun to see. David On 3/7/07, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, Steve W. pointed out a thread from last summer (also initiated by Peter). http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/47091 It doesnt have to be an either/or scenario. Though it certainly can be for some. I have always said to use the YouTubesque services to your benefit if needed and to also maintain your own controllable space (site/blog/domain). Everyone is different and most people on this list, at least i can assume, DO have their own sites and do not only rely on any service, not even blip. It is a mix of being more serious, dedicated, savvy and adoptive of grassroots type of technologies. I dont know of anyone here who only has a myspace page, a youtube profile and a flickr account. Most take it the next level. sull On 07 Mar 2007 12:31:26 -0800, David King [EMAIL PROTECTED]davidleeking%40gmail.com wrote: Carter (I think) said: But if I want to have conversations using video content as the starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube. Help me out here - why is it an either/or thing with using Youtube for conversations? I'm not getting that. Because Youtube works basically the same as any other video hosting service - you can still embed your youtube videos on your real blog, and basically ignore the youtube part of it. You still get your videoblog's rss feed, and you still get your videoblog's comments... Other than the video ownership thing and downloading, what's the diff? david So you can still do rss On 3/7/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] steve%40dvmachine.comsteve%40dvmachine.com wrote: Cheers. I think I still use the hammer too much myself, even though I have other tools available! Youtube was not the obvious candidate in my mind when talking about video conversations here in the past, but as they have a critical mass of users, and at some point added the video responses feature, it was the first big instance Id seen of this stuff actually happening. Forums/messageboards were where I cut my net communications teeth in text, and so Ive ocasionally waffled here about how I wanted to see video fused with the messageboard way of things. I wondered how it would be done, whether people would actually use it. Im still wondering because things havent reached that stage yet, but at least there are a few services out there such as yours, and youtube has at least stuck its toe into the water. Anyway I would like to think that there'd have been more people joining in this conversation if it were happenign a year or 2 ago, I dunoo, it seems harder to have a long conversation about what features people dream of these days, perhaps because people basic needs are already satisfied. All the same I hope there are actually a mass of people passionately excited about all these sorts of alternative extra uses for video on the net. I like shows and everything else thats happening but I yearn for the days when there was a chance that any day you coudl logon and find some individual has created some funky tool, that whilst primitive shows the potential of the future. It felt like there were no frontiers, now much talk seems to centre around re-crossing the frontiers that the mass media previously filled with concrete, but I fear far too much replication of TV and the old ways, leading to mothing different enough to truly stir my passions. Anyway I definately agree with others that its pretty essential that your comment system be built into the embedded player. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts in finding differences. I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in your kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a nail. As someone spending a
Re: [videoblogging] France Bans Citizen Journalists from Reporting Violence...please digg:)
Will never surrender ;-) Loiez ( from France) be continued Le 7 mars 07 à 22:57, Sarah Szalavitz a écrit : Hey, Have you heard that France is trying to ban citizen journalism? Its unbelievably draconian... My college roommate wrote this--and I'd love for y'all to read it (and weep unfortunately) and digg it! http://www.digg.com/politics/ France_Bans_Citizen_Journalists_from_Reporting_Violence_Makes_US_Look_ Good Thanks! cheers, Sarah From: David King [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:24:12 -0600 That's what I think, too - so that's cool. I'm so completely amazed that this is still so new - what will it look like in 2008? Who knows - but it'll sure be fun to see. David On 3/7/07, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, Steve W. pointed out a thread from last summer (also initiated by Peter). http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/47091 It doesnt have to be an either/or scenario. Though it certainly can be for some. I have always said to use the YouTubesque services to your benefit if needed and to also maintain your own controllable space (site/blog/domain). Everyone is different and most people on this list, at least i can assume, DO have their own sites and do not only rely on any service, not even blip. It is a mix of being more serious, dedicated, savvy and adoptive of grassroots type of technologies. I dont know of anyone here who only has a myspace page, a youtube profile and a flickr account. Most take it the next level. sull On 07 Mar 2007 12:31:26 -0800, David King [EMAIL PROTECTED]davidleeking%40gmail.com wrote: Carter (I think) said: But if I want to have conversations using video content as the starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube. Help me out here - why is it an either/or thing with using Youtube for conversations? I'm not getting that. Because Youtube works basically the same as any other video hosting service - you can still embed your youtube videos on your real blog, and basically ignore the youtube part of it. You still get your videoblog's rss feed, and you still get your videoblog's comments... Other than the video ownership thing and downloading, what's the diff? david So you can still do rss On 3/7/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] steve%40dvmachine.comsteve%40dvmachine.com wrote: Cheers. I think I still use the hammer too much myself, even though I have other tools available! Youtube was not the obvious candidate in my mind when talking about video conversations here in the past, but as they have a critical mass of users, and at some point added the video responses feature, it was the first big instance Id seen of this stuff actually happening. Forums/messageboards were where I cut my net communications teeth in text, and so Ive ocasionally waffled here about how I wanted to see video fused with the messageboard way of things. I wondered how it would be done, whether people would actually use it. Im still wondering because things havent reached that stage yet, but at least there are a few services out there such as yours, and youtube has at least stuck its toe into the water. Anyway I would like to think that there'd have been more people joining in this conversation if it were happenign a year or 2 ago, I dunoo, it seems harder to have a long conversation about what features people dream of these days, perhaps because people basic needs are already satisfied. All the same I hope there are actually a mass of people passionately excited about all these sorts of alternative extra uses for video on the net. I like shows and everything else thats happening but I yearn for the days when there was a chance that any day you coudl logon and find some individual has created some funky tool, that whilst primitive shows the potential of the future. It felt like there were no frontiers, now much talk seems to centre around re-crossing the frontiers that the mass media previously filled with concrete, but I fear far too much replication of TV and the old ways, leading to mothing different enough to truly stir my passions. Anyway I definately agree with others that its pretty essential that your comment system be built into the embedded player. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts in finding differences. I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in your kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a nail. As someone spending a great deal of time thinking
Re: [videoblogging] Re: I am quilty of shiny object distraction disorder or SODD
Steve Watkins wrote: Adobe Apollo stuff would be of particular interest to me if I was already versed in Flash and/or Flex development. Sidenote: The Adobe Apollo project, due to enter preview release on labs.adobe.com real soon now, is a way to bring either SWF or HTML/JS work to the desktop... you browse to a site same as before, but it asks you if you'd like to use that page for offline use, system tray, doubleclickable, the works. Doesn't require Flash or Flex skills... Ajax or even classic JS/webapp stuff works as well. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks.
[videoblogging] Test a video on you phone/handheld?
I'd be very grateful if anyone with a video-capable handheld or mobile phone would be willing to test our site for me. It's supposed to detect that you're on a mobile and change the layout accordingly. It seems to work on my razr, but I just heard that it isn't working for someone running Windows Mobile. If you're up for it: 1. Visit wreckandsalvage.com from your phone/handheld 2. Tell me if you can see the site and/or one of the videos 3. Tell me what you're using, device/OS. Muchas gracias. -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com
Re: [videoblogging] Test a video on you phone/handheld?
I get a black screen - no video, no nothing Windows Mobile running on a BlackJack (320x240 screen) On 3/7/07, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be very grateful if anyone with a video-capable handheld or mobile phone would be willing to test our site for me. It's supposed to detect that you're on a mobile and change the layout accordingly. It seems to work on my razr, but I just heard that it isn't working for someone running Windows Mobile. If you're up for it: 1. Visit wreckandsalvage.com from your phone/handheld 2. Tell me if you can see the site and/or one of the videos 3. Tell me what you're using, device/OS. Muchas gracias. -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com -- Sean W. Bohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.seanbohan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Anyone mixing video and geolocation outside of Google Maps?
All great ideas. Keep them coming! Best, Carter http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Carter :D A built in option to leave map images would be great, if you can find an easy way to plug in the Google Maps API. Just giving the links has been fun. Actually, maybe you don't even have to call the map image into the frame. I have dreamed (as I mentioned before) of a whole bunch of different types of time-based icons hotspots built into the player - timeline based icons that appear at one side at specific times - an icon that shows a map, another icon that opens an info page... a wide selection of different icons that the author could choose from that could represent all sorts of links/info - like the different icons in Google Earth community posts that show whether a placemark is a photo, video, blog entry, whatever. Maybe these icons could be something we can click and paste into the Time Post pane below the player in Crowdabout.us - so that an author clicks on the icon he wants, adds the URL and the viewer just sees a clickable icon as a post/comment rather than all the longwinded text of the map URL like I've done. Rich, rich, rich! I've been leaving you audio comments in return to yours, talking into my laptop while my wife stares at me as if I'm mad. Love audio comments. Wish I had a Macbook with built in iSight so I could stare at the lens while I talk. For anyone who feels mad talking into a lens as if you're talking to a real person, I highly recommend http://www.zefrank.com today. It's genius. Rupert http://www.fatgirlinohio.org/ http://www.crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/ On 7 Mar 2007, at 19:17, caroosky wrote: Sounds very cool, Tony. I'm having problems with the link you provided, though, so I'll check back to see it in action later. Rupert (from this forum) is using google map links in the time-posts of his videos over at CrowdAbout.us. Poor guy is going to think I've started stalking him, but I was amazed and pleased to see just how immediate and contextual information like this is, when presented along with video, and how it helped to make the connection to the content and the creator more tangible. It's got me thinking we should even make it an option, and turn the link into the map display right in the post. Best, Carter Harkins http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton marforton@ wrote: Select any video interview at the link below to see the feature at work. Underneath the video that plays, you'll find a UI with the eight geographically closest videos in that same language. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton marforton@ wrote: This is my first post - been lurkig for a few months. Just a quick question to see if anyone is doing any work in the area of online video and geolocation outside of a Google Maps interface. We've developed a beta UI feature that finds the geographically closest videos based on some user derived context. In the case of our beta functionality, the contexts are limited to video language and location of the selected video. A bit more coding would make almost any context driven filtering possible. The feature works with any of our interviews found at http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp . Choosing an interview from Central America (Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua) will best demonstrate that the functionality works across national borders. Thoughts on the functionality? Have others implemented similar contextual functionality with video or working on integrating geolocation with video outside of a Google maps interface? Regards Tony [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: I am quilty of shiny object distraction disorder or SODD
Thanks very much for the info, I get plenty wrong when Im browsing over this stuff. Well, the fact it works well with js etc makes it seem even more that many players, large and small, are converging on the same space. Like I said before, exciting times to be looing at web develpment stuff, so much choice. Only problem is deciding at which point I switch my time from studying all the options to actually trying to pick one and create something with it. I'll be sure to check it out when the preview comes, am now wondering what potential offline browser mode has for video in particular. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Watkins wrote: Adobe Apollo stuff would be of particular interest to me if I was already versed in Flash and/or Flex development. Sidenote: The Adobe Apollo project, due to enter preview release on labs.adobe.com real soon now, is a way to bring either SWF or HTML/JS work to the desktop... you browse to a site same as before, but it asks you if you'd like to use that page for offline use, system tray, doubleclickable, the works. Doesn't require Flash or Flex skills... Ajax or even classic JS/webapp stuff works as well. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks.
[videoblogging] Re: Next New Networks gets some love from Business Week.com
I've checked out their Thread Heads http://www.threadbanger.com. Cool stuff. -- Bill C. http://ReelSolid.TV --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sean Bohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some news I found on BW http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2007/tc20070307_104759.htm By pulling together elements of video blogging, audience submissions, and a big dollop of branding, the ad-supported N3 plans over the next three years to build a network of 100 super-niche channels on everything from news to pets. To start, this new Internet take on the TV studio systemâN3 launches on Mar. 8âwill feature six channels on subjects ranging from do-it-yourself clothing to comic book news. these guys do my favorite auto videoblog VOD Cars -- Sean W. Bohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.seanbohan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
Well, this is a personal preference, I guess. I like quiet restaurants when looking for a meeting place to discuss business or more personal areas of life with old fiends (or new ones). But give me a noisy bar any day when all I want to do is watch the game or be left alone. YouTube is a public place on a busy street corner. I look at the pages of the site, the pages my videos are sometimes on, I look at the neighboring videos sharing the same real estate, and I guess I just have an aversion to placing things there that fall into the quiet cafe category. Sometimes fostering discussion is my goal. Sometimes risking a bit of myself, reaching out for community is what I want. In those times I want to know that the environment I have so painstakingly created with my content is not going to be wrecked when undesirable, loud neighbors move in to the sidebar area. My own vlog is like my home; on a public street, but under my control entirely, and I want people to feel as comfortable there as they would in their own home. For everything else, there's YouTube. (Does anyone else feel this way about selecting YouTube for only certain things?) Post-Script: the ownership and downloading issues you mentioned are real, if making your content as free of hindrances is your goal. YouTube does not let me use my content as freely as Blip.tv (if we are comparing the two for their hosting services). I can't get an .flv out of YouTube, but blip creates it for me and offers it to me and others if I want. With that kind of portability, I can now use other services that require me to have that format, such as CrowdAbout or other flash-based services). Best, Carter Harkins http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carter (I think) said: But if I want to have conversations using video content as the starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube. Help me out here - why is it an either/or thing with using Youtube for conversations? I'm not getting that. Because Youtube works basically the same as any other video hosting service - you can still embed your youtube videos on your real blog, and basically ignore the youtube part of it. You still get your videoblog's rss feed, and you still get your videoblog's comments... Other than the video ownership thing and downloading, what's the diff? david So you can still do rss On 3/7/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheers. I think I still use the hammer too much myself, even though I have other tools available! Youtube was not the obvious candidate in my mind when talking about video conversations here in the past, but as they have a critical mass of users, and at some point added the video responses feature, it was the first big instance Id seen of this stuff actually happening. Forums/messageboards were where I cut my net communications teeth in text, and so Ive ocasionally waffled here about how I wanted to see video fused with the messageboard way of things. I wondered how it would be done, whether people would actually use it. Im still wondering because things havent reached that stage yet, but at least there are a few services out there such as yours, and youtube has at least stuck its toe into the water. Anyway I would like to think that there'd have been more people joining in this conversation if it were happenign a year or 2 ago, I dunoo, it seems harder to have a long conversation about what features people dream of these days, perhaps because people basic needs are already satisfied. All the same I hope there are actually a mass of people passionately excited about all these sorts of alternative extra uses for video on the net. I like shows and everything else thats happening but I yearn for the days when there was a chance that any day you coudl logon and find some individual has created some funky tool, that whilst primitive shows the potential of the future. It felt like there were no frontiers, now much talk seems to centre around re-crossing the frontiers that the mass media previously filled with concrete, but I fear far too much replication of TV and the old ways, leading to mothing different enough to truly stir my passions. Anyway I definately agree with others that its pretty essential that your comment system be built into the embedded player. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, caroosky carter@ wrote: Steve, Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts in finding differences. I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in your kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a nail. As someone spending a great deal of time thinking about how to build social tools, I'm perhaps all too quick to criticize YouTube's hammer (in this case, their
Fwd: [videoblogging] Test a video on you phone/handheld?
Nokia N93, running Opera Mobile and Flash 7 - I get to see the whole home page fine because Opera Mobile lets you see all the images as they should be and at various levels of zoom, but there's no Flash video of course (Opera only handles Flash 7) and when I click the Cellphone image/link nothing happens because it doesn't like the javascript. I could download the Quicktime and Windows videos by clicking on them because they're direct links to the files on Blip. HTH. (Also, if I click the Cellphone link on my Mac Firefox, it freaks out and goes black and doesn't allow me to go back or anything - presumably the javascript swaps the CSS to a mobile.css or something, does it? A less stylish answer might be to have a direct link to the file and maybe even (sigh) a text link? I love your design, by the way.) Hope this helps Rupert On 7 Mar 2007, at 22:27, Adam Quirk wrote: I'd be very grateful if anyone with a video-capable handheld or mobile phone would be willing to test our site for me. It's supposed to detect that you're on a mobile and change the layout accordingly. It seems to work on my razr, but I just heard that it isn't working for someone running Windows Mobile. If you're up for it: 1. Visit wreckandsalvage.com from your phone/handheld 2. Tell me if you can see the site and/or one of the videos 3. Tell me what you're using, device/OS. Muchas gracias. -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Test a video on you phone/handheld?
While it was loading I was text for everything. After it loaded everything disappeared to a black screen with just a white 1 pixel bar across the top. It took over a minute to load because I am using EDGE on the cingular network (slow speed) and the page was over 300k. Have you thought about having less stuff on it (once it works)? Treo 650/Palm OS 5 -Lan
[videoblogging] Re: Anyone mixing video and geolocation outside of Google Maps?
Our feature grew out of the fact that the Google map geocoder only works in a few countries (none in Latin America to be precise). Since the issue is only with geocoding and Google Maps accepts any lat/long, we started by writing our own Geocoder. Once we had the geocoder done, we realized that every object or piece of content in our database could be made geo-aware in a way that we would not need the Google interface. We could build any interface that we desired to display the relationships among geo-aware content. The contextual filtering for video is the first example that we built. Our examples at http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp use other videos (again, select any interview and look under the video for the eight most geographically close videos in the same language - the videos from central america work best because national borders are often crossed). It would be just as easy to limit the search radius and recommend to the user other forms of local geo-aware content in a specific area (articles, reviews, podcasts, videos, anything). If I select one thing as a user, I can be also exposed to everything else in that area in a relatively unobtrusive way. Thoughts? Tony --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All great ideas. Keep them coming! Best, Carter http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote: Thanks, Carter :D A built in option to leave map images would be great, if you can find an easy way to plug in the Google Maps API. Just giving the links has been fun. Actually, maybe you don't even have to call the map image into the frame. I have dreamed (as I mentioned before) of a whole bunch of different types of time-based icons hotspots built into the player - timeline based icons that appear at one side at specific times - an icon that shows a map, another icon that opens an info page... a wide selection of different icons that the author could choose from that could represent all sorts of links/info - like the different icons in Google Earth community posts that show whether a placemark is a photo, video, blog entry, whatever. Maybe these icons could be something we can click and paste into the Time Post pane below the player in Crowdabout.us - so that an author clicks on the icon he wants, adds the URL and the viewer just sees a clickable icon as a post/comment rather than all the longwinded text of the map URL like I've done. Rich, rich, rich! I've been leaving you audio comments in return to yours, talking into my laptop while my wife stares at me as if I'm mad. Love audio comments. Wish I had a Macbook with built in iSight so I could stare at the lens while I talk. For anyone who feels mad talking into a lens as if you're talking to a real person, I highly recommend http://www.zefrank.com today. It's genius. Rupert http://www.fatgirlinohio.org/ http://www.crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/ On 7 Mar 2007, at 19:17, caroosky wrote: Sounds very cool, Tony. I'm having problems with the link you provided, though, so I'll check back to see it in action later. Rupert (from this forum) is using google map links in the time-posts of his videos over at CrowdAbout.us. Poor guy is going to think I've started stalking him, but I was amazed and pleased to see just how immediate and contextual information like this is, when presented along with video, and how it helped to make the connection to the content and the creator more tangible. It's got me thinking we should even make it an option, and turn the link into the map display right in the post. Best, Carter Harkins http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton marforton@ wrote: Select any video interview at the link below to see the feature at work. Underneath the video that plays, you'll find a UI with the eight geographically closest videos in that same language. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, marforton marforton@ wrote: This is my first post - been lurkig for a few months. Just a quick question to see if anyone is doing any work in the area of online video and geolocation outside of a Google Maps interface. We've developed a beta UI feature that finds the geographically closest videos based on some user derived context. In the case of our beta functionality, the contexts are limited to video language and location of the selected video. A bit more coding would make almost any context driven filtering possible. The feature works with any of our interviews found at http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp http://vidlisting.com/interviews.asp . Choosing an interview from Central America (Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua) will best demonstrate that the functionality works across national
[videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway I would like to think that there'd have been more people joining in this conversation if it were happenign a year or 2 ago, I dunoo, it seems harder to have a long conversation about what features people dream of these days, perhaps because people basic needs are already satisfied. On the contrary, the reason we started CrowdAbout and built the technology behind it is precisely because we heard content creators who wanted a better experience for interacting with passive audiences lulled into mass-media complacency, and who wanted to turn them into engaged participants. Anyway I definately agree with others that its pretty essential that your comment system be built into the embedded player. Duly noted, and thanks, Steve! Best, Carter Harkins http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, caroosky carter@ wrote: Steve, Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts in finding differences. I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in your kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a nail. As someone spending a great deal of time thinking about how to build social tools, I'm perhaps all too quick to criticize YouTube's hammer (in this case, their comment feature). In doing this, I'm not about to criticize content creators who use YouTube for what it does best: getting video up on the web and available to a massively large potential audience. I put things on YouTube when that is my goal. When I want to have more control over my files, and need to use the content in many different ways, I've found blip.tv to be an indispensible tool. But if I want to have conversations using video content as the starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube. This is partly because of an admittedly snobbish opinion of the quality of conversation taking place there, but it's also because I don't think the commenting system they have deployed is good for much else beyond the quick drive-by style comment. This snobbery does not extend to content creators, though. And while I'm making admissions, I will additionally confess that I am wildly idealistic about how our collective community of content creators can mold and shape the fabric of the internet, as well as the discussions taking place not only in this medium, but offline as well. But as a builder of tools, I try (although I probably don't always succeed) to just build something cool, and then let others tell me how they prefer to use it. I am often surprised to learn the ways that people are using a tool for an advantage I never would have imagined in a hundred years. The creativity of others is inspiring, to say the least. And much of that inspiration is viewable on YouTube. Best, Carter Harkins http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: There was some talk in this group about youtuber's that I thought was a bit snobbish a while ago, because it made me rant, but it was probably only mild and it can be hard to seperate criticism of the service with those using it sometimes. But on a certain level I would not be surprised if the 'brand repputation' of youtube can heavily influence the reputation of someone posting there. I could forsee plenty of exceptions, a show that gets enough attention will be talked about in terms of itself, that its on youtube is incidental. And this just re-inforces the fact that one off clips, copyrighted stuff, other popular 'viral' videos without a strong identity of their own are what will link most strongly to the word 'youtube'. If there is any snobbishness around, I suppose its bourn from some peoples high expectations and ideals about what videoblogging would be used for. What I could describe as the 'liberal intellectual' wing could understandably make such noises sometimes. Reminds me of the old days of British broadcast television... First there was the BBC, which was (and remains) very paternalistic. Lots of corporate agenda's focussed on their role in society as a public service, and lots of intellectual thinking on how the medium could be used for the masses to better themselves. Resulting in lots of high-brow programming that could be a bit stuffy. Then along came the first commercial channel, ITV, which didnt mind putting on lots of cheap popular entertainment, which got very high viewing figures, gave a lot of people what they wanted, but was regarded by the aforementioned BBC patriarch's as 'vulgar'. I guess its not a new phenomenon, and 'class' still matters, unfortunately, no matter if everyone pretends it doesnt mean anything anymore. vlogtellectuals vs youtube, bbc vs itv, music hall vs opera
[videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007
WooHOo! I started vlogging the week after vlogging week last year. Hmmm, let's see... a can of red paint, a rusty old saw, 33 elder people, a bale of hay, a car battery, a copy of Tom Jones greatest hits, a rented tattoo artist, sheep shears and a gallon of chocolate ice cream... yup, I'm ready. Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007 April 1-7 2007 prepare yourselves! -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Test a video on you phone/handheld?
Definitely going to have to find a different approach. Thinking we're just going to link to this instead: http://wreckandsalvage.com/mobile Thanks for testing Lan. On 3/7/07, Lan Bui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While it was loading I was text for everything. After it loaded everything disappeared to a black screen with just a white 1 pixel bar across the top. It took over a minute to load because I am using EDGE on the cingular network (slow speed) and the page was over 300k. Have you thought about having less stuff on it (once it works)? Treo 650/Palm OS 5 -Lan Yahoo! Groups Links -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Test a video on you phone/handheld?
Well, I took that javascript swap out because it's buggy as hell and just went with different calls to CSS for handheld and Screen, with a capital S in screen because if not Windows Mobile will try to display it (good thinking MS!). The two CSS import rules in the main page's header are still there, because dammit it actually works on some handhelds and phones, like my razr. But since our site is very graphics-heavy, it's probably better for mobile users to just use our http://wreckandsalvage.com/mobile site that I have now re-linked to the Cellphone button on our front page. Thanks for the design nod. On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nokia N93, running Opera Mobile and Flash 7 - I get to see the whole home page fine because Opera Mobile lets you see all the images as they should be and at various levels of zoom, but there's no Flash video of course (Opera only handles Flash 7) and when I click the Cellphone image/link nothing happens because it doesn't like the javascript. I could download the Quicktime and Windows videos by clicking on them because they're direct links to the files on Blip. HTH. (Also, if I click the Cellphone link on my Mac Firefox, it freaks out and goes black and doesn't allow me to go back or anything - presumably the javascript swaps the CSS to a mobile.css or something, does it? A less stylish answer might be to have a direct link to the file and maybe even (sigh) a text link? I love your design, by the way.) Hope this helps Rupert On 7 Mar 2007, at 22:27, Adam Quirk wrote: I'd be very grateful if anyone with a video-capable handheld or mobile phone would be willing to test our site for me. It's supposed to detect that you're on a mobile and change the layout accordingly. It seems to work on my razr, but I just heard that it isn't working for someone running Windows Mobile. If you're up for it: 1. Visit wreckandsalvage.com from your phone/handheld 2. Tell me if you can see the site and/or one of the videos 3. Tell me what you're using, device/OS. Muchas gracias. -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: video Blogging Week 2007
I wonder if technorati can keep up with y'all this time :) Anne and I had fun participating last year, but not sure if we'll contribute anything this year. Thanks, Devlon Duthie http://devlonduthie.com -new and improved! Find great independent video: http://mefeedia.com Mike Moon wrote: WooHOo! I started vlogging the week after vlogging week last year. Hmmm, let's see... a can of red paint, a rusty old saw, 33 elder people, a bale of hay, a car battery, a copy of Tom Jones greatest hits, a rented tattoo artist, sheep shears and a gallon of chocolate ice cream... yup, I'm ready. Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been declared: Video blogging Week 2007 April 1-7 2007 prepare yourselves! -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Test a video on you phone/handheld?
Great - yeah, that works for me now. And I have wifi on N93 so I don't get the pain of slow loading (is there an emoticon for smug bastard?). I don't know what the conventions/standards are, but do people use mobile. subdomains as well? And another great video, by the way. When it started, I didn't think it would hold me for the whole 5 mins with split screens and confusion, but it really did. GRAN CAANYON! Just out of interest, what did you use to cut it and split screen? FCP? Rupert On 7 Mar 2007, at 23:44, Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage wrote: Well, I took that javascript swap out because it's buggy as hell and just went with different calls to CSS for handheld and Screen, with a capital S in screen because if not Windows Mobile will try to display it (good thinking MS!). The two CSS import rules in the main page's header are still there, because dammit it actually works on some handhelds and phones, like my razr. But since our site is very graphics-heavy, it's probably better for mobile users to just use our http://wreckandsalvage.com/mobile site that I have now re-linked to the Cellphone button on our front page. Thanks for the design nod. On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nokia N93, running Opera Mobile and Flash 7 - I get to see the whole home page fine because Opera Mobile lets you see all the images as they should be and at various levels of zoom, but there's no Flash video of course (Opera only handles Flash 7) and when I click the Cellphone image/link nothing happens because it doesn't like the javascript. I could download the Quicktime and Windows videos by clicking on them because they're direct links to the files on Blip. HTH. (Also, if I click the Cellphone link on my Mac Firefox, it freaks out and goes black and doesn't allow me to go back or anything - presumably the javascript swaps the CSS to a mobile.css or something, does it? A less stylish answer might be to have a direct link to the file and maybe even (sigh) a text link? I love your design, by the way.) Hope this helps Rupert On 7 Mar 2007, at 22:27, Adam Quirk wrote: I'd be very grateful if anyone with a video-capable handheld or mobile phone would be willing to test our site for me. It's supposed to detect that you're on a mobile and change the layout accordingly. It seems to work on my razr, but I just heard that it isn't working for someone running Windows Mobile. If you're up for it: 1. Visit wreckandsalvage.com from your phone/handheld 2. Tell me if you can see the site and/or one of the videos 3. Tell me what you're using, device/OS. Muchas gracias. -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Adding the cool map zooms to movies.
How do you add those cool map zooms and moves like what you see on Rocketboom and Command N? Google Earth? -- -Jonathan Bloom http://thenameiwantedwastaken.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Test a video on you phone/handheld?
He uses FCP, I'm pretty sure. But you'd have to ask Sr. Aaron Valdez, as he is the mastermind behind the America, Your America! series on WS. On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great - yeah, that works for me now. And I have wifi on N93 so I don't get the pain of slow loading (is there an emoticon for smug bastard?). I don't know what the conventions/standards are, but do people use mobile. subdomains as well? And another great video, by the way. When it started, I didn't think it would hold me for the whole 5 mins with split screens and confusion, but it really did. GRAN CAANYON! Just out of interest, what did you use to cut it and split screen? FCP? Rupert On 7 Mar 2007, at 23:44, Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage wrote: Well, I took that javascript swap out because it's buggy as hell and just went with different calls to CSS for handheld and Screen, with a capital S in screen because if not Windows Mobile will try to display it (good thinking MS!). The two CSS import rules in the main page's header are still there, because dammit it actually works on some handhelds and phones, like my razr. But since our site is very graphics-heavy, it's probably better for mobile users to just use our http://wreckandsalvage.com/mobile site that I have now re-linked to the Cellphone button on our front page. Thanks for the design nod. On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nokia N93, running Opera Mobile and Flash 7 - I get to see the whole home page fine because Opera Mobile lets you see all the images as they should be and at various levels of zoom, but there's no Flash video of course (Opera only handles Flash 7) and when I click the Cellphone image/link nothing happens because it doesn't like the javascript. I could download the Quicktime and Windows videos by clicking on them because they're direct links to the files on Blip. HTH. (Also, if I click the Cellphone link on my Mac Firefox, it freaks out and goes black and doesn't allow me to go back or anything - presumably the javascript swaps the CSS to a mobile.css or something, does it? A less stylish answer might be to have a direct link to the file and maybe even (sigh) a text link? I love your design, by the way.) Hope this helps Rupert On 7 Mar 2007, at 22:27, Adam Quirk wrote: I'd be very grateful if anyone with a video-capable handheld or mobile phone would be willing to test our site for me. It's supposed to detect that you're on a mobile and change the layout accordingly. It seems to work on my razr, but I just heard that it isn't working for someone running Windows Mobile. If you're up for it: 1. Visit wreckandsalvage.com from your phone/handheld 2. Tell me if you can see the site and/or one of the videos 3. Tell me what you're using, device/OS. Muchas gracias. -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Adding the cool map zooms to movies.
I've used a combination of Google Earth and a screen capture software, SnapZPro. Have fun! Rox On 3/7/07, Jonathan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you add those cool map zooms and moves like what you see on Rocketboom and Command N? Google Earth? -- -Jonathan Bloom http://thenameiwantedwastaken.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian 808-384-5554 http://www.beachwalks.tv http://www.barefeetshop.com http://www.barefeetstudios.com http://www.inthetransition.com
[videoblogging] Re: if you plan it they will come(vloggercon)
How about Hawaii? I can think of no better place :-) We have plenty of convention halls here and nice hotels, not to mention an awesome set of beaches! Becca in Hawaii --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, RANDY MANN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: vloggercon 3 boston june more info to come [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Video Search Is the Big Topic of '07
http://adage.com/digitalreport030507/article?article_id=115428 Not a lot here but with crowdabout.us the current topic I thought this was encouraging stuff for what you are doing. Besides this one paragraph is worth reading the article for: At one point, Ms. Schwartz chimed in, Why can't we all love each other? To which moderator Mike Chapman, editorial director at eMarketer, quipped, Drinks later? I think Mobile video will be the IT factor.
[videoblogging] I think this is Flex bundled with something, maybe flash?
There is a lot here once you get the hang of it. And there is a lot of Whack stuff too (Finger guitine, killer rats). Nice embeds of video (Look for a old still film camera icon) and plenty of games. http://www.want2bsquare.com/bsquare/pub/landing.do Play with the cube before you use the enter to select a cube side. I ran into a few system slow downs (I am on a mac mini with 512k ram) but for the most part it was fairly smooth. When I saw a Adobe demo a few weeks back I liked it but missed a lot of the features and functionality because I didn't get the navigation. After I did the Adobe survey and realized I missed stuff I applied the oh factor to navigate this Scion site. At the time I did not realize (or missed the point) I was looking at Flex (if this is Flex). I only dove about a 1/8 of the way in... this is a day killer!
[videoblogging] Re: Test a video on you phone/handheld?
Si Senor. FCP in the wood-paneled, jesus adorned, freezer of a basement. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He uses FCP, I'm pretty sure. But you'd have to ask Sr. Aaron Valdez, as he is the mastermind behind the America, Your America! series on WS. On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great - yeah, that works for me now. And I have wifi on N93 so I don't get the pain of slow loading (is there an emoticon for smug bastard?). I don't know what the conventions/standards are, but do people use mobile. subdomains as well? And another great video, by the way. When it started, I didn't think it would hold me for the whole 5 mins with split screens and confusion, but it really did. GRAN CAANYON! Just out of interest, what did you use to cut it and split screen? FCP? Rupert On 7 Mar 2007, at 23:44, Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage wrote: Well, I took that javascript swap out because it's buggy as hell and just went with different calls to CSS for handheld and Screen, with a capital S in screen because if not Windows Mobile will try to display it (good thinking MS!). The two CSS import rules in the main page's header are still there, because dammit it actually works on some handhelds and phones, like my razr. But since our site is very graphics-heavy, it's probably better for mobile users to just use our http://wreckandsalvage.com/mobile site that I have now re-linked to the Cellphone button on our front page. Thanks for the design nod. On 3/7/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nokia N93, running Opera Mobile and Flash 7 - I get to see the whole home page fine because Opera Mobile lets you see all the images as they should be and at various levels of zoom, but there's no Flash video of course (Opera only handles Flash 7) and when I click the Cellphone image/link nothing happens because it doesn't like the javascript. I could download the Quicktime and Windows videos by clicking on them because they're direct links to the files on Blip. HTH. (Also, if I click the Cellphone link on my Mac Firefox, it freaks out and goes black and doesn't allow me to go back or anything - presumably the javascript swaps the CSS to a mobile.css or something, does it? A less stylish answer might be to have a direct link to the file and maybe even (sigh) a text link? I love your design, by the way.) Hope this helps Rupert On 7 Mar 2007, at 22:27, Adam Quirk wrote: I'd be very grateful if anyone with a video-capable handheld or mobile phone would be willing to test our site for me. It's supposed to detect that you're on a mobile and change the layout accordingly. It seems to work on my razr, but I just heard that it isn't working for someone running Windows Mobile. If you're up for it: 1. Visit wreckandsalvage.com from your phone/handheld 2. Tell me if you can see the site and/or one of the videos 3. Tell me what you're using, device/OS. Muchas gracias. -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Fwd: [videoblogging] Test a video on you phone/handheld?
On a LGVX8100 cell phone from verizon I could not get any of the videos to play. I also have a mobile site with video on it to here: http://m.billshackelford.com I found out the cell phones with verizon's OS with the openwave browser do not support video at all (which is most of them). I was able to determine that more phones are comptible with .3gp than with .3g2 it appears across the providers. I think your idea of posting a link to a windows media file is a good idea for all the Windows spartphones out there. I will be adding a link to my iPod compatible files off my moblie site because it will be compatible with the iPhone. Cell phone podcasting looks like it will take off with the iPhone :) Is your .mov files ipod compatible? Great videos :) - Bill http://billshackelford.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nokia N93, running Opera Mobile and Flash 7 - I get to see the whole home page fine because Opera Mobile lets you see all the images as they should be and at various levels of zoom, but there's no Flash video of course (Opera only handles Flash 7) and when I click the Cellphone image/link nothing happens because it doesn't like the javascript. I could download the Quicktime and Windows videos by clicking on them because they're direct links to the files on Blip. HTH. (Also, if I click the Cellphone link on my Mac Firefox, it freaks out and goes black and doesn't allow me to go back or anything - presumably the javascript swaps the CSS to a mobile.css or something, does it? A less stylish answer might be to have a direct link to the file and maybe even (sigh) a text link? I love your design, by the way.) Hope this helps Rupert On 7 Mar 2007, at 22:27, Adam Quirk wrote: I'd be very grateful if anyone with a video-capable handheld or mobile phone would be willing to test our site for me. It's supposed to detect that you're on a mobile and change the layout accordingly. It seems to work on my razr, but I just heard that it isn't working for someone running Windows Mobile. If you're up for it: 1. Visit wreckandsalvage.com from your phone/handheld 2. Tell me if you can see the site and/or one of the videos 3. Tell me what you're using, device/OS. Muchas gracias. -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Fwd: [videoblogging] Test a video on you phone/handheld?
Yeah, lots of Windows Mobile devices out there now, hence the .wmv link. And yeah our .mov's are totally iPoddy. I loved Home Movies. Very soothing for some reason, even with the quick cuts. I really wish my parents or grandparents had taped stuff back then. I do have some VHS tapes from the early 80's of some of my t-ball games, and one of me standing in front of the TV singing Rainbow Connection along with Kermit. I need to have my parents send me those before they decompose. PS, if you stick a bit of javascript in your embed code, when someone clicks in the box all the text is automatically selected. Like this: input name=embed type=text value=some code that embeds a video onClick=this.focus(); this.select() Just learnt that the other day and was momentarily impressed with it. -Adam On 3/8/07, Bill Shackelford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a LGVX8100 cell phone from verizon I could not get any of the videos to play. I also have a mobile site with video on it to here: http://m.billshackelford.com I found out the cell phones with verizon's OS with the openwave browser do not support video at all (which is most of them). I was able to determine that more phones are comptible with .3gp than with .3g2 it appears across the providers. I think your idea of posting a link to a windows media file is a good idea for all the Windows spartphones out there. I will be adding a link to my iPod compatible files off my moblie site because it will be compatible with the iPhone. Cell phone podcasting looks like it will take off with the iPhone :) Is your .mov files ipod compatible? Great videos :) - Bill http://billshackelford.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nokia N93, running Opera Mobile and Flash 7 - I get to see the whole home page fine because Opera Mobile lets you see all the images as they should be and at various levels of zoom, but there's no Flash video of course (Opera only handles Flash 7) and when I click the Cellphone image/link nothing happens because it doesn't like the javascript. I could download the Quicktime and Windows videos by clicking on them because they're direct links to the files on Blip. HTH. (Also, if I click the Cellphone link on my Mac Firefox, it freaks out and goes black and doesn't allow me to go back or anything - presumably the javascript swaps the CSS to a mobile.css or something, does it? A less stylish answer might be to have a direct link to the file and maybe even (sigh) a text link? I love your design, by the way.) Hope this helps Rupert On 7 Mar 2007, at 22:27, Adam Quirk wrote: I'd be very grateful if anyone with a video-capable handheld or mobile phone would be willing to test our site for me. It's supposed to detect that you're on a mobile and change the layout accordingly. It seems to work on my razr, but I just heard that it isn't working for someone running Windows Mobile. If you're up for it: 1. Visit wreckandsalvage.com from your phone/handheld 2. Tell me if you can see the site and/or one of the videos 3. Tell me what you're using, device/OS. Muchas gracias. -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] What happened to Mobuzz.tv?
I haven't heard anything but I have been waiting for a new video, but they haven't done anything since January? What up ? Does anyone know ? Or did I just totally forget something? nick
[videoblogging] Josh Wolf's 200th Day in Prison - RSF article
This is a link to a Reporters Without Borders Article about Josh Wolf. http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=21229 Just a quick excerpt: Reporters Without Borders today welcomed the fact that judicial mediation will start tomorrow in the case of jailed blogger and freelance video journalist Josh Wolf, and that this could lead to his release. On 10 March, Wolf is due to complete his 200th day in a federal prison in Dublin, California, for refusing to surrender his unedited video to a federal grand jury investigation. Keep the faith, Gena
Re: Fwd: [videoblogging] Test a video on you phone/handheld?
Thanks for the code snippet.. I will plug it in. The Kermit video sounds like a new episode for your vlog :) My home movie footage unfortunalty had to go through several conversion processes before I could get it on my Mac. The original 8mm film was transfered to VHS a while back. The VHS tape was captured with a PC in Windows Media format. I had to buy the Flip for Mac code to then get the .wmv file into iMovie where it converted it to DV. I edited it and then exported it to the web formats. I hope one day to have it recaptured directly from the 8mm film to a Computer. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, lots of Windows Mobile devices out there now, hence the .wmv link. And yeah our .mov's are totally iPoddy. I loved Home Movies. Very soothing for some reason, even with the quick cuts. I really wish my parents or grandparents had taped stuff back then. I do have some VHS tapes from the early 80's of some of my t-ball games, and one of me standing in front of the TV singing Rainbow Connection along with Kermit. I need to have my parents send me those before they decompose. PS, if you stick a bit of javascript in your embed code, when someone clicks in the box all the text is automatically selected. Like this: input name=embed type=text value=some code that embeds a video onClick=this.focus(); this.select() Just learnt that the other day and was momentarily impressed with it. -Adam On 3/8/07, Bill Shackelford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a LGVX8100 cell phone from verizon I could not get any of the videos to play. I also have a mobile site with video on it to here: http://m.billshackelford.com I found out the cell phones with verizon's OS with the openwave browser do not support video at all (which is most of them). I was able to determine that more phones are comptible with .3gp than with .3g2 it appears across the providers. I think your idea of posting a link to a windows media file is a good idea for all the Windows spartphones out there. I will be adding a link to my iPod compatible files off my moblie site because it will be compatible with the iPhone. Cell phone podcasting looks like it will take off with the iPhone :) Is your .mov files ipod compatible? Great videos :) - Bill http://billshackelford.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote: Nokia N93, running Opera Mobile and Flash 7 - I get to see the whole home page fine because Opera Mobile lets you see all the images as they should be and at various levels of zoom, but there's no Flash video of course (Opera only handles Flash 7) and when I click the Cellphone image/link nothing happens because it doesn't like the javascript. I could download the Quicktime and Windows videos by clicking on them because they're direct links to the files on Blip. HTH. (Also, if I click the Cellphone link on my Mac Firefox, it freaks out and goes black and doesn't allow me to go back or anything - presumably the javascript swaps the CSS to a mobile.css or something, does it? A less stylish answer might be to have a direct link to the file and maybe even (sigh) a text link? I love your design, by the way.) Hope this helps Rupert On 7 Mar 2007, at 22:27, Adam Quirk wrote: I'd be very grateful if anyone with a video-capable handheld or mobile phone would be willing to test our site for me. It's supposed to detect that you're on a mobile and change the layout accordingly. It seems to work on my razr, but I just heard that it isn't working for someone running Windows Mobile. If you're up for it: 1. Visit wreckandsalvage.com from your phone/handheld 2. Tell me if you can see the site and/or one of the videos 3. Tell me what you're using, device/OS. Muchas gracias. -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: blog vs youtube myspace
Rupert, you took the words right out of my mouth. You really get this thing we're doing, don't you? I'm honored and humbled, because I'm not entirely sure that we've been explaining it all that well up to now... If ever our paths cross in the real world (whatever THAT means anymore ;-) I'm buying the beer. Cheers, Carter --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the key is that what Carter was talking about (i'm putting words in his mouth here) was choosing a model for conversations between people, and I guess he particularly mentioned video comments. Looking at the way they do it in crowdabout, as a back forth thing, with audio video and text all part of the same block, they've chosen a very different model from the YouTube thing, which is very much more a hitrun text comment thing, with a tacked on videocomment thing encouraging a short attention span, often used by people trying to get views from more popular sites, and less about conversations. (in my limited experience). there seem to be more comments on YouTube than there are on most standalone vlogs - which is great. whether it's a conversation and a lasting connection is another matter. someone more experienced in building YouTube relationships should comment. (Only there aren't any here, because they think we hate them... lol) On 7 Mar 2007, at 20:31, David King wrote: Carter (I think) said: But if I want to have conversations using video content as the starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube. Help me out here - why is it an either/or thing with using Youtube for conversations? I'm not getting that. Because Youtube works basically the same as any other video hosting service - you can still embed your youtube videos on your real blog, and basically ignore the youtube part of it. You still get your videoblog's rss feed, and you still get your videoblog's comments... Other than the video ownership thing and downloading, what's the diff? david So you can still do rss On 3/7/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheers. I think I still use the hammer too much myself, even though I have other tools available! Youtube was not the obvious candidate in my mind when talking about video conversations here in the past, but as they have a critical mass of users, and at some point added the video responses feature, it was the first big instance Id seen of this stuff actually happening. Forums/messageboards were where I cut my net communications teeth in text, and so Ive ocasionally waffled here about how I wanted to see video fused with the messageboard way of things. I wondered how it would be done, whether people would actually use it. Im still wondering because things havent reached that stage yet, but at least there are a few services out there such as yours, and youtube has at least stuck its toe into the water. Anyway I would like to think that there'd have been more people joining in this conversation if it were happenign a year or 2 ago, I dunoo, it seems harder to have a long conversation about what features people dream of these days, perhaps because people basic needs are already satisfied. All the same I hope there are actually a mass of people passionately excited about all these sorts of alternative extra uses for video on the net. I like shows and everything else thats happening but I yearn for the days when there was a chance that any day you coudl logon and find some individual has created some funky tool, that whilst primitive shows the potential of the future. It felt like there were no frontiers, now much talk seems to centre around re-crossing the frontiers that the mass media previously filled with concrete, but I fear far too much replication of TV and the old ways, leading to mothing different enough to truly stir my passions. Anyway I definately agree with others that its pretty essential that your comment system be built into the embedded player. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com, caroosky carter@ wrote: Steve, Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts in finding differences. I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in your kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a nail. As someone spending a great deal of time thinking about how to build social tools, I'm perhaps all too quick to criticize YouTube's hammer (in this case, their comment feature). In doing this, I'm not about to criticize content creators who use YouTube for what it does best: getting video up on the web and available to a massively large potential audience. I put things on YouTube when that is my goal. When