Hey Cheryl--
If you are recording in HD quality, then compressing that video will
decrease the quality. But because you are starting at high quality, the
compressed version has a better chance of looking good.
Remember that the quality of the video also depends on the kind of lens you
have, the
Haven't popped in here for a while. We're running a story on video
editing for nonprofits. I wanted to make passing mention of some
online alternatives, except most have bitten the dust in the past 3
years.
Editing online has yet to catch fire. Either the interface is too
clunky, the quality
It's working now (thanks Ryanne!) - http://www.vloggercon.com
I was just checking out what we were all talking about in 2006:
Schedule: http://www.vloggercon.com/?page_id=3
Video Archive: http://www.vloggercon.com/?page_id=208
And even farther back in 2005 when very few people even knew what
All that archived information is now gone... What a great snapshot into a
certain time in online video, with vids of some of the best creators and
innovators at the time.
How come it now goes to Ryan Is Hungry?
Good question. I know we were switching the Vloggercon info from
peter's server
just in case and if needed i'll offer videobloggers.org server (where
Michael Verdi is hosting his drupal project for videobloggers) to archive
vloggercon.
Hosting etc isnt the problem. Peter just needed to clean off his
server and we just never completed the transfer. Should be done
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote:
just in case and if needed i'll offer videobloggers.org server (where
Michael Verdi is hosting his drupal project for videobloggers) to archive
vloggercon.
Hosting etc isnt the problem. Peter just needed to clean off
Re full page video: Odd how few cool tools have been made with HTML5
video so far. It'll be interesting to see what the HTML5 version of
Navigaya.com looks like, which they say is coming soon. Recently
launched as Flash only - nice full page video/web TV, social media
browsing interface -
Here is an article about the developer who has looked at VP8 and found
various problems. Hopefully the reality is not as bad as the article
suggests, but in the rush to something free and open it would be all to easy
to overlook or dismiss these issues, and then maybe suffer pain later:
Here is the project website:
http://www.webmproject.org/
I hope it does well and they can make the encoding and decoding efficient
quite quickly, and that lots of tools sprout up quickly.
It is indeed good news. Think of how this discussion has unfolded the
past year. Ogg/Theora went from a
what kind of performance are you expecting out of a $150 camera?
I hope nothing professional. It's a low caliber camera. Pretty much you'll
get something between crap and amateur results.
David has a point. Inexpensive cameras offer amazing convenience but
limited quality. I use my iPhone to
anyone seen eva markvoort's video blogs? very inspired by her courage.
http://sentinelsource.com/articles/2010/04/28/features/health_fitness/free/id_398986.txt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjinOU7LR0k
I can understand David's point of living some moments without the need
to record them...but
On occasion I need to export a mov or mp4 movie as a Flash (flv) file.
I'd like to be able to embed a click through url in the movie like you can do
in Adobe Flash. I'd use Flash but I'm not shelling out $900 for something I
need once in a while.
Does anyone have any other solutions such as
There's still time to submit a video about your hometown to their site! Upload
it to YouTube and send the link to hometownshowd...@gmail.com by Wednesday!
I'm sure they'd also just appreciate some ratings and comments on the videos
if you're not inclined to submit one of your own :)
I think
http://www.drumbeat.org/project/universal-subtitles/
Subtitles bridge linguistic and physical barriers to video. Help create an
open lookup standard that lets any video client find matching subtitles in
online databases, along with free and open source tools to enable users to
easily create
Um, it's by Participatory Culture Foundation, not Mozilla.
True. PCP (aka Miro folks) are leading the effort. I assume Mozilla is
probably helping fund some of the work.
There is an existing effort http://dotsub.com
I know the Miro folks have always been frustrated with Dotsub because
its a
I'm pretty much a dedicated Blogger user although i can use Wordpress and um
and er about changing over every so often. I'm in one of those periods of
contemplation at the moment when I came upon this new template for Blogger
http://www.bloggertube-demo-dantearaujo.blogspot.com/
which I'm
We've needed tis for a while. Be interesting if Mozilla can help pull it
off:
http://www.drumbeat.org/project/universal-subtitles/?utm_source=gsnippetutm_content=subtitleutm_campaign=s010410
Subtitles bridge linguistic and physical barriers to video. Help create an
open lookup standard that lets
This question is a little off-topic. Our neighbor rents a river cabin
to weekenders. Most of her business has traditionally come through her
website. Last month, we helped her move her website to a cheaper
hosting solution. So she has the same website, just a different host.
She says that no one
Same domain I assume?
Just a quick thought...did you move her to WP? Check the Settings--Privacy
area just to make sure you're not blocking search engines by mistake.
Same domain, same everything. We just moved the same exact website to
another host. Now her same website doesnt show up in
...If the hosting was changed, so too were DNS.
I believe Google spiders might (possibly) sense the DNS changes, and may
have interpreted the change (simultaneous when pages were unavailable) as a
domain termination -- and consequently removed and archived the site from
its prior ranking.
It could be a shared ip and the ip is blocked because of one of the other
sites hosted.
You could ask the host to transfer you to a different IP/server?
Good suggestion. Thanks.
Jay
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VideoLAN Movie Creator is a non-linear editing software for video creation
based on libVLC and running on Windows, Linux and Mac OS X!
It is a free software distributed under the terms of the GPL v2.
http://trac.videolan.org/vlmc/
DOWNLOAD:
Joly, so awesome. I wish this stuff was available online.
Jay
Videofreex
Curated by Dara Greenwald
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 at 7:30pm
177 Livingston Street, Brooklyn
Light Industry presents a survey of work by seminal guerrilla
television outfit Videofreex,
Sorry for spam. Member is suspended.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote:
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On 16 Apr 2010, at 11:12, Ed Smith wrote:
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Ning has decided to cancel their free accounts:
http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/15/nings-bubble-bursts-no-more-free-networks-cuts-40-of-staff/
Ning has just announced that it is killing off its free product, forcing
existing free networks to either make the change to premium accounts or
migrate
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Adam Quirk qu...@wreckandsalvage.com
wrote:
I'm so used to Premiere at this point that I probably won't switch unless
some open-source competitor comes along with all the features I need.
cue the FOSS announcement
*Oscar and Emmy award-winning editing software
Hi Guys, i have a one day video shoot to do in NY City mostly shooting from a
boat on the Hudson River. As a visitor to US from Australia will i need to
have a permit to do this or even a special visa for the one days work?
No one will stop to ask you if you dont make a big deal out of it.
Does anyone know of any good YouTube User/Partner forums?
Given the millions of Youtube users I figured there would be no
shortage of forums, but my Google search mojo must be totally off
today because I can't find any.
And I heard on one video there is a forum for youtube partners only,
but
, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Jay dedman
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wrote:
I'm heading to a Brooklyn events space tonight at 6:30
to
start
I do not recognise the sides in the battle quite like you have stated them.
Whilst its true that Apple were the first to really start pushing h.264, and
are the most likely not to allow other formats on their mobile devices, many
other important players in this game support h.264. Microsoft
What service do you prefer to livestream from events?
Ustream, CoverItLive, something else?
Why do you prefer it?
We've used Justin.tv for some events very successfully. For the tech
geeks--They allow you to use Quicktime Broadcaster and hook into their
servers which allows for better quality.
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Brook Hinton bhin...@gmail.com wrote:
Another open source video editing package (that adds some live video
features to boot) that looks interesting:
http://lives.sourceforge.net
Gabriel, the LiVES developer, has reached out to some on this group.
So far it's
This is pretty awesome:
http://newteevee.com/2010/04/12/google-to-open-source-vp8-for-html5-video/
That could seriously change the codec equation for the better.
Yep, its here. An open source codec that supposedly can compete with
H264. I look forward to actually seeing what the codec looks
I'm so bored by the idea of even more epic codec battles. Apple/
Safari/iPhone/iPad in h264 versus Google/Chrome/Phones/Set Top Box/etc
in ogg/vp8. Versus Microsoft and whatever they choose to do. No
compatibility between browsers for HTML5.
Seems like Apple are hardening their position on
Online video is not TV. Online video is not TV. Online video is not...
But this is interesting:
http://philipbloom.co.uk/2010/04/10/house-season-finale-shot-entirely-with-canon-5dmkii/
The TV show, House, will shoot an episode entirely on the Canon 5D.
I found it interesting since several folks
Let me know if you guys have any questions about our services, ad sales,
payments, whatever. Happy to answer any and all questions you've got --
skeptical or not. We're an open book. The only thing I can't talk about is
how much specific shows made. That's their confidential information and
I don't know about Blip, but as I've mentioned before, I'm a Youtube partner
and I certainly make money from it, as I do from Google ads on my blog site.
I'm not allowed to say how much, but it's not insignificant. Not
enough to live off to be sure, but I've only got several thousand
regular
That old video of yours about your mum - interrupted with your Coke ad
- springs to mind, Jay - is that still online somewhere?
http://momentshowing.net/2005/03/video-a-videoblog-circa-2006/
Obviously, places like blip.tv are pushing ads on shows that are the
new kind of TV. Personal videos
We've discussed the arcane notion that Flash might be a problem...and that
an open source video codec might allow more innovation for editing tools,
web presentation/interaction, and mobile devices.
Looks like Google is officially diving into this idea:
I'm heading to a Brooklyn events space tonight at 6:30 to start planning
Vloggercue 2010.
The only details I have right now are that it will be in June, in Brooklyn,
and free. As in free beer, free food, free video screening, free music, free
love.
After tonight I'll have more details to
This blog post says blip.tv sent a bunch of checks to show creators. I
know some folks here are also Youtube partners. It would be really
great if independent producers are really getting paid.
http://theblog.blip.tv/post/505915181/this-week-is-check-week-at-blip-tv-were-sending
I wonder if you
A friend is going to be leading a small workshop and I remember there used
to be some one-sheets to help new teachers teach videoblogging.
I looked around the wiki, but couldn't find them. Anyone know where they
went?
Here's the best that was ever collected:
Here's the best that was ever collected:
http://node101.pbworks.com/Teaching+Materials
It's been untouched for a couple years, so some of the materials will
obviously be out-of-date. Might at least help get him started.
By the way, you may want to contact Jen Proctor who teaches a
video/film
You just add an overlay title using your video edit software. Most
people put it in the intro or ending credits etc.
If you want to do it the low-tech way, stick a sign in the background
when you shoot your video!
Exactly. Youtube also lets you create hot links that click through
to other
A friend of mine has just made a short film using the Red format. The
progressive way that the compression works sounds like it might be ideal for
web video. Imagine you've got a 1GB file - if you only download the first
100MB, say, you still get the whole length of the video, but in a
Hi, I'm researching a topic that has to do with encouraging kids from
low income and/or urban landscapes to express themselves with video.
This could be both singly or as part of an educational program. I
vaguely remember a few years ago a number of interesting projects that
focused on
So I am nerding out with a buddy who works in the comic book industry the
other night and we are talking about videoblogging and indie video in
general and I remembered a VERY cool sizzle reel I found late last year
called SLINGERS:
http://vimeo.com/7963572
and when I found the link on Vimeo
CORRECTION: The Mike Sizemore that we know is at https://twitter.com/sizemore.
Jay
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote:
So I am nerding out with a buddy who works in the comic book industry the
other night and we are talking about videoblogging and indie video
http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=178162
I never used this feature in YouTube, but I use the automatic cross
posting
to my blogs from Blip.TV all the time. I guess this is one more reason
I'll
keep Blip.TV as my primary means of video distribution.
This is weird:
We
This is the link to the software page: http://trac.videolan.org/vlmc/
Videomaker has a posted about the new open source video editing software:
http://videomaker.com/community/blogs/videonews/2010/03/7232-vlc-released-new-open-source-editor
Cool! The VLC guys were showing off some screenshots
Lenny and myself are still doing Crash Test Kitchen whenever we can, and I've
got Garage Night TV on my plate as well. Still taking the lo-fi how-to
approach, with some concessions to modernity - have just bought a Canon HF200
AVCHD camera and gone widescreen. Oh the joys of editing AVCHD!
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Brook Hinton bhin...@gmail.com wrote:
Revisiting the whole live video thing due to stumbling across veetle.com. It
seems a little too good to be true, free high quality live streaming at SD
or HD with no ads and no bandwidth limits. Anyone used it? Experiences?
Anyone have any data on this device purchased on eBay? Digitronics HD AVCHD
HDC-1080 PocketCam Full HD 1080 8.0 Mega Pixels
Arrived in mail with nothing but the pocketcam, and doesn't seem to show up
on google. Plugged it into my USB but WindowsXP doesn't like it. Won't even
recharge the
So, do you agree when I say that there were no many long-lasting videoblogs
just short-dated experimental ones between 2000 and 2004?
This post doesnt discuss individual people, but it does go over
technical/commercial landscape of online video:
thanks for your answer. Actually, there were and still is the videoblog of
Adam Kontras http://4tvs.com/. He already had started in 2000! But he seems
to be the only one with a classic videoblog in those early days (...not to
mention especially German videoblogs, I see).
I spoke with
I have been searching for a while but with little success. Is within our
group any German vlogger who had started his vlog before 2005? The only one I
could find is greenhorn and now I try to contact him via email and maybe
now it works via our group...
But has anyone a hint for me? Or
Sorry for the spam. Banned.
Jay
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Tony Pelliccio k...@yahoo.com wrote:
http://asthmacare.in/annick.html
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Looks like I might be bartering for a new-ish mac 13
There is no firewire input and i was wondering how some of you dealt
with that problem.
I think my cams are only capable of exporting via firewire...
Any help would be appreciated?
I use an external hard drrive with USB and Firewire to
I've been looking for some new intro music for my blog, and one of my
viewers pointed me to this site:
http://www.codeorgan.com/?url=www.eevblog.com/
It generates music based on the site contents, and it turns out my
site main page generates quite good music!
My site sounds like an 80's
Today I'm swamped with a pletora of digital animation tools, and here I am
staring at Final Cut Pro wondering how the heck I'm suppose to do the same
thing.
Are there any tools you've found to bring back the fun of making title
animations (aside from fixed ones like in iMovie), or even sites
My method has been to run a recorder off the board, but also mainly to
have a Zoom H2 set on 2 chan surround somewhere fairly central.
Then one can run it through the levelator to balance out loud and
quiet. The it's just a question of mixing, or cutting between one and
the other in post.
We
right!...I remember when I survived the China May 2008 quake and most of the
hot news agencies of the world were around my interview... CNN called me for
an interview about the disaster ... and I just replied -straight 2,000 USD
per minute-cause I knew they make cash with free news from
http://www.youtube.com/partners
http://www.youtube.com/t/partnerships_faq
Quote:
To become a YouTube Partner, you must meet these minimum requirements:
* You create original videos suitable for online streaming.
* You own or have express permission to use and monetize all audio
and
I submitted my first two CNN iReports in the last two days, just for fun.
Both times a CNN staffer called me the next day to vet them and get a
quote from me that is below the video. Anyone have any feelings on iReports?
Seems a nice way to embed a video on my blog, with the cool red CNN
I just saew that Vimeo has a http://vimeo.com/groups/1minute:
With the chaos of everyday life consuming our senses, it is nice to sit back
and enjoy moments and experiences that are often overlooked. This project
aims to study the forgotten moments and times in life that we often pass by
We were talking earlier last week about the trials of creating and
funding a webshow:
http://newmediacracy.com/2010/02/episode-6-the-return-of-new-mediacracy.html
Zadi, Steve...Kent Nichols of Askaninjahave posted a LONG (2-hr)
audio podcast where they talk about how they deal with show
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:47 AM, M. Sean Kaminsky
kaminsky...@gmail.com wrote:
just came across this wordpress plug-in - not sure how effective it is - but
thought it was interesting:
WP-PreventCopyBlogs
Here's the direct link to this plugin:
I seen 1000's of these panorama videos [1][2
I am trying to think of a story/drama that would make a 360 degree lens worth
using
Do you have a link to a 360 camera that you would get?
jay
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It's a full time living for quite a few people:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/11/business/media/11youtube.html
I'm not quite there yet, but there's always hope!
Yep, this is the article that everyone points to:
YouTube declined to comment on how much money partners earned on average,
partly
I have to say that Dmitri has always been really friendly and nice, across
many interactions over many years, and today of all days I want to wish him
and everyone who worked at Veoh well.
I actually think about everyone in our Web video world all those years ago
as being somewhat of a pioneer.
As a viewer I remain pissed off that when I go looking for regular compelling
content I usually find magazine-format programs that dont float my boat for
reasons of my age, the pace of the show, or cultural incompatibilities (eg I
like Americans but where the hell are the British shows not
I suppose one of the reasons Ive always liked non-commercial personal vlogs
is that many people can be entertaining in ways that are not
'larger-than-life' that showbiz requires, that are just the same as the ways
normal people have entertained eachother on a close personal level since time
Do you think its safe to try discussing the creation aspect, now that there
are presumably less people participating here, and there is no longer a
danger of urinating on the newborn flames of vlog hope where everything
seemed possible because that time has long passed?
My friend, David,
Originally (2006) I produced videos 320x240 @15fps. I was more conscious 4
years ago about file size. I imagined Blip blowing up with files being
anything larger. :)
Since then I've settled in on 480x272 as my standard output rez (16:9).
If I have 4:3 video I'll normally output to 480x360.
http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20100211/veoh-finally-calls-it-quits-layoffs-yesterday-bankruptcy-filing-soon/-
I never really used them, but thought y'all would find this
interesting nonetheless...
I dont know anyone who used them to host videos. Not exactly sure who
their users were. Kind of
Did some brief trawling through the archives of this group circa 2005-2006
and saw one reason why I remember Veoh - Their founder was active here when
they started, and the Halycon bloke with pink hair rather overpromoted them
on this group from time to time.
Those were the days when you
HD is not their only choice.
I use an embedded YouTube player which defaults to 360p, the user must then
manually chose 480p or 720p if they way higher res. If they subscribe to my
podcast with iTunes or whatever they get a
separate 480x272 version.
About half my audience subscribe and
I would guess that its partly the extra work the publisher has to go through
like you say, but also some other technical issues to do with how the plugin
works in practice, along with whatever the story is regarding what happened
to ShowInABox and other video module plugins that it tried to
If anyone here has experience working with Sony's XDCAM video files
and FCP, please email me offlist. I have a colleague who's stuck and
has a couple questions that she can't find anywhere online. She seems
to have stumped everyone with her issue. Thanks in advanced.
Jay
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I watched the Google Buzz launch video today, and noticed it was live
streamed over YouTube. I had not heard of them offering a live streaming
service. Is this something new or am I just late to the party as usual?
I havent seen a Youtube streaming service. They probably just use it
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Brook Hinton bhin...@gmail.com wrote:
Excellent resources and info, Rob, thanks! Should go in the wiki if its
still around... Jay? (I can't find the link for some reason).
Here it is: http://videoblogginggroup.pbworks.com/
We started this wiki several years ago
well, Vimeo just announced that it's added 1080p with ACCHD support
(for Vimeo Plus members).
http://www.studiodaily.com/blog/?p=2568
Youtube did this in the fall but it's not becoming common. I have a
pretty decent mac and it can barely handle playback. But it was just 4
years ago when people
They don't make you an HD flash version but blip has always supported
any size file you want to put up there. You can just add a 1080p file
(along with lots of other formats) when you upload.
Thats why blip is good. They are almost completely format agnostic.
For instance, I use always blip
They still gain in other ways by having h.264 as the standard, ie they get
larger payments from companies that distribute a lot of video, sell video,
make hardware software that encodes decodes, etc etc. The end user or
small creator still ends up paying in the form of a small chunk of
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Chad Boeninger cfboenin...@gmail.com wrote:
I recently discovered that it's been happening to me as well. Take a look
at my post here
http://www.library.ohiou.edu/subjects/businessblog/2010/01/27/a-day-in-the-life-of-librarian/
and see the striking similarities
Steve of Elbows has mentioned this day several times. H264 will now
officially be royalty free to users for a little while longer. My cynical
read: they're trying to make sure H264 is the video standard online...then
they can charge out the wazoo.
VlogEurope 2010 - Lisbon.
I've had this on my mind for some time, and now is as good a time as any to
start spreading the word and getting people to find time in their schedule to
make it to Portugal in November. So why VlogEurope 2010 - Lisbon?
Portugal is easily reachable from both sides
So..now that I edited the video and uploaded to the Youtube I'm experiencing
some sort of video behind the sound issue. The raw compressed file is looking
good, but when I upload it to Youtube, the visual goes faster than the sound.
Is it just me or Youtube doing smth wrong today? Have you
Just a quick note as the moderator of this list. I notice that we have
a thread here under Turnhere free videos, yet none of the
discussions are about Turnhere.
Please appease my obsessive compulsive behavior and start a new email
thread with a new subject heading when changing topics. This helps
Is the Political Video Project still going? I see politicalvideo.org only
goes as far as 2007 or so.
Problem is I need video from the past year because I plan on capitalizing on
President Obama's hopeful plans to change Washington (And call him his
staff on the carpet on a few things at
Someone linked to the AudioTechnica website but I'm not sure what they were
exactly trying to link to.
They have good quality, affordable mics that use the 1/4 jack. Do
some searching.
Jay
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I have a question about lavaliere. For interviews, is it better to use this
type of mic.? Does it pick up less ambient sound. What about if I film
outside with it..what noises does it pick up? If I filmed outside with a
lavaliere and if it didn't pick up enough outside noise, maybe it
I've been shooting video and editing it or broadcasting it live from my HP
Compaq TC1100 tablet for nearly 4 years. A lot of my shooting is on building
construction and restoration sites, so the highly portable tablet form factor
is extraordinarily useful. Shoot in the morning, edit over
I am looking for a traditional hand held microphone to use for
man-on-the-street news interviews. Everything I can find is either an XLR mic
or a toy.
I have a Panasonic TM300 which is a nice small camera but has a traditional
1/4 microphone jack. I know there are XLR converters which
I've been practicing a lot with the camera over these past days to try to
figure out where the problem may be and I think that it's camera that makes
this noise. I tried mic mounted on it, further from it-on a tripod..it
still gave that hum sound. Even when the mic was off, I could
I would like to know how you manage to record a sound with minimum hum in a
room environment. I have a good microphone that I use for my filming, but I
always get a huge hum sound if I film inside.
What camera do you use, or where do you place your mic? Some cameras
are notorious for their
And as for the open video alliance video you posted recently - more fine
lofty words but there is more vagueness and blending of all the different
sorts of 'open' into one thing in order to demonstrate why open is
important, but its a bit misleading really, because the theora stuff has
nothing
This is a really nice video explaining why the tools of video need to
be more open: http://openvideoalliance.org/why-open-video/
Stuff we've talked about here, but another step to making the vision more clear.
Jay
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The iSight is about as good as it gets.
You'll have trouble importing hi-8 into your Mac, unless you want to
fork out for final cut pro and an analogue/digital converter box.
Would be cheaper and much better just to buy a Kodak Zi8 or a Flip
Mino HD for $100-200. Or even the previous version
Mozilla's VP-of-Engineering explains on his blog:
http://shaver.off.net/diary/2010/01/23/html5-video-and-codecs/
Vimeo and YouTube seem to believe that reliance on proprietary plugins for
video is a problem on the web. Mozilla believes that reliance on
patent-encumbered formats is a problem on
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