Re: [Wikitech-l] [Foundation-l] Data Summit Streaming

2011-02-12 Thread Dmitriy Sintsov
* Andrew Dunbar hippytr...@gmail.com [Sat, 12 Feb 2011 03:58:49 +1100]: On 11 February 2011 22:18, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Andrew Dunbar hippytr...@gmail.com wrote: It doesn't work for me )-: Your input can't be opened: VLC is unable to

[Wikitech-l] [ResourceLoader] JavaScript may break on your wiki: Fix it before that happens

2011-02-12 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Greetings, As you may know, the Wikimedia teach team has started to upgrade MediaWiki on some wikis. MediaWiki is the software that runs all Wikimedia wikis. The most visible change for Wikimedia users will be the deployment of ResourceLoader [1]. ResourceLoader optimizes the use of JavaScript

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ResourceLoader] JavaScript may break on your wiki: Fix it before that happens

2011-02-12 Thread 青子守歌 (aokomoriuta)
What kind of issues are expected concretely? Is there any kinds of checklist or todo? Original Message Subject: [Wikitech-l] [ResourceLoader] JavaScript may break on your wiki: Fix it before that happens From: Guillaume Paumier gpaum...@wikimedia.org To: Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ResourceLoader] JavaScript may break on your wiki: Fix it before that happens

2011-02-12 Thread Roan Kattouw
2011/2/12 青子守歌 (aokomoriuta) maill...@enmps.net: What kind of issues are expected concretely? Is there any kinds of checklist or todo? Trevor probably knows more about this, but what I can tell you at least is that some wikis load their own version of jQuery in their site JS, which can break

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-12 Thread Ashar Voultoiz
On 11/02/11 00:24, Platonides wrote: snip And many don't even perform one edit. As I don't believe so many people create them just to change their preferences, it is a mistery for me why do they do so. My brother is always logged in but barely edit anything. The top reasons are: - he uses

[Wikitech-l] Roadmaps and getting and keeping devs

2011-02-12 Thread David Gerard
These have been circulating in the open source Twitterspere today. They struck me as apposite to discussions on these topics around MediaWiki. How to write a roadmap: http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/02/07/drawing-up-a-roadmap/ How to grow your contributor community (and how to decimate it):

Re: [Wikitech-l] Roadmaps and getting and keeping devs

2011-02-12 Thread Leo
On Samstag, 12. Februar 2011 at 17:55, David Gerard wrote: How to grow your contributor community (and how to decimate it): http://www.codesimplicity.com/post/open-source-community-simplified/ and imo, wikimedia fails at a lot of these points: *Quote: Respond to contributions immediately.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Roadmaps and getting and keeping devs

2011-02-12 Thread Diederik van Liere
For the last months I have been going through Bugzilla and what strikes me is that we are not using it as efficiently as other communities do. In particular, there is little follow up to reported problems (as Leo mentioned as well). On the short term, I think we can have a bugathon to clean up

Re: [Wikitech-l] Roadmaps and getting and keeping devs

2011-02-12 Thread Ryan Lane
Have a bugathon where we label a lot of bugs as appropriate bugathon bugs that need either: a) test patch / update patch to recent svn version a) confirmation / replication of new / unconfirmed bugs We can provide a simple ready to go Wiki installation for people to use for bug triaging and

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ResourceLoader] JavaScript may break on your wiki: Fix it before that happens

2011-02-12 Thread 青子守歌 (aokomoriuta)
Thank you for your advice. You mean we should be careful about upgrading jQuery's version if the script uses jQuery, i.e. the problem you refer to is not caused if we dont' use jQuery, right? Original Message Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] [ResourceLoader] JavaScript may break on

Re: [Wikitech-l] JavaScript may break on your wiki: Fix it before that happens

2011-02-12 Thread Leo
Another thing: The html might have changed at a few places (for example galleries), so scripts which do some dom manipulation could be affected as well Leo On Saturday, February 12, 2011 at 10:53 PM, 青子守歌 (aokomoriuta) wrote: Thank you for your advice. You mean we should be careful about

Re: [Wikitech-l] Roadmaps and getting and keeping devs

2011-02-12 Thread Diederik van Liere
I think one way that non technical people can help is by trying to replicate bugs, if they follow the steps as described in the bugreport Do you get the same malfunction or not. That would be a great help as it weeds out invalid bugreports Sent from my iPhone On 2011-02-12, at 17:26, phoebe

Re: [Wikitech-l] Roadmaps and getting and keeping devs

2011-02-12 Thread phoebe ayers
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: Have a bugathon where we label a lot of bugs as appropriate bugathon bugs that need either: a) test patch / update patch to recent svn version a) confirmation / replication of new / unconfirmed bugs We can provide a simple

Re: [Wikitech-l] Roadmaps and getting and keeping devs

2011-02-12 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Leo diebu...@gmail.com wrote: *Quote: Respond to contributions immediately. This is what I think bugs me the most. There are heaps of bugs which have had patches attached for month or years. For newcomers, who maybe spent a lot of time on these, it's just

Re: [Wikitech-l] Roadmaps and getting and keeping devs

2011-02-12 Thread River Tarnell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In article AANLkTi=nq2tookvgmhrxbegvr6fzxe1wzv9dbzde4...@mail.gmail.com, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: Have a bugathon where we label a lot of bugs as appropriate bugathon bugs that need either: a) test patch / update patch to recent svn

Re: [Wikitech-l] Roadmaps and getting and keeping devs

2011-02-12 Thread Ryan Lane
I believe the next hack-a-ton is in Berlin, soon. Perhaps requiring people to travel to another country to participate in this is part of the problem.  I don't doubt that real-life meetings are useful for Wikimedia Foundation employees and existing MW contributors, but it doesn't do much to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Roadmaps and getting and keeping devs

2011-02-12 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
Leo diebu...@gmail.com writes: *Quote: Respond to contributions immediately. This is what I think bugs me the most. There are heaps of bugs which have had patches attached for month or years. For newcomers, who maybe spent a lot of time on these, it's just rude to neither commit them nor

[Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org commons sockpuppet site

2011-02-12 Thread jidanni
Someone posted a link to https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Category:Hogtie_bondage Delving further, we find https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Main_Page says Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, when in fact the real site is http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org commons sockpuppet site

2011-02-12 Thread Huib Laurens
I don't understand the email also... The secure site has been arround for years... 2011/2/13, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com: jida...@jidanni.org wrote: Someone posted a link to https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Category:Hogtie_bondage Delving further, we find

Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org commons sockpuppet site

2011-02-12 Thread Chad
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:02 PM, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: Someone posted a link to https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Category:Hogtie_bondage M. Delving further, we find https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Main_Page says Welcome to Wikimedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ResourceLoader] JavaScript may break on your wiki: Fix it before that happens

2011-02-12 Thread MZMcBride
Guillaume Paumier wrote: The installation of ResourceLoader may cause compatibility issues with existing JavaScript code. It'd be nice to have a list of things that will definitely be problematic (must be fixed), things that might be problematic (should be fixed), and things that are generally

Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org commons sockpuppet site

2011-02-12 Thread jidanni
Fine. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org commons sockpuppet site

2011-02-12 Thread MZMcBride
jida...@jidanni.org wrote: Someone posted a link to https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Category:Hogtie_bondage Delving further, we find https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Main_Page says Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, when in fact the real site is

Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org commons sockpuppet site

2011-02-12 Thread Jay Ashworth
He's complaining, in effect, that there are more than one URL for identical content, which is in fact generally a bad idea, but in this case, of course, he's wrong: different *access protocols* are being used, so it's not possible to conform the two... Whether it is in fact still a Best Practice

Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org commons sockpuppet site

2011-02-12 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com In fact on any page on either site, one cannot find any link to the corresponding page on the other site. Yeah, secure.wikimedia.org's URL scheme isn't really friendly to outsiders. Historically, this is because SSL