Maybe this could have been your first message? Because we're
definitely not past "this gender thing" as a species.

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Peter Bense <[email protected]> wrote:
> Have any of you ever attended those electronic music events events with
> exclusively female artists?
>
> I have.  And in a lot of cases it seemed really awkward -- like the reason
> they were selected as performers was due to their sex/gender over their
> accomplishments as a performer/musician.  (To say nothing of the male
> patrons weirdly 'gawking' over them, which is also super creepy.  A separate
> issue unto itself.)
>
> So here we are listing out producers/djs, etc. and not discussing their
> works or what makes them good (maybe one or two have, but most replies
> haven't).
>
> That turns this into an ad-hoc roll call.  Which again sort of reminds of
> those types of events I just mentioned.  To what end?
>
> How about indicate what makes them interesting to mention here, aside from
> their sex/gender?  That would seem like a more favorable way to approach
> this discussion, while crediting them appropriately.
>
> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Holly MacDonald-Korth <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Exactly.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 3:27 PM
>> To: christiaan76
>> Cc: Peter Bense; Cole Evelev; Matthew Kane; kent williams; Aidan
>> O'Doherty; Marsel van der Wielen; list 313; Suzanne Heinrichs;
>> [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Female Producers
>>
>>
>>
>> The only way gender will be gotten over is when sexism, homophobia, and
>> transphobia are done. I love this thread.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 18, 2017, at 15:21, christiaan76 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> exactly.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Aug 18, 2017, at 21:09, Peter Bense <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> More generally: why is this gender thing so important?  Can't we get over
>> it already..
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Cole Evelev <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry about that. This is who I was referencing.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.discogs.com/Powder-H/release/9983256
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>
>



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