Plus she's cute too as is Peggy Gou from Korea. Go ahead and flame me now for "objectifying her" like a sexist pig :-)
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 1:52 PM Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes I mentioned her in my submission. She's damn good. > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 1:51 PM Peter Bense <textur...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Well, while we're at it... Cinthie on/of Modus Bestus >> <https://soundcloud.com/cinthie> is one of the best damn ("new") house >> DJs I've heard in years. >> >> She's prolific and her label has released a lot of good titles. First >> discovered her on her Boiler Room set >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEIxh3KWwyI>. Runs a rather active >> label. >> >> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Holly MacDonald-Korth < >> hko...@jwkorth.com> wrote: >> >>> The simple fact that it is hard for anyone here to name more than a >>> handful of female producers is, in itself, a reason to mention them. >>> Clearly, the music should be judged for itself, but in an ecosystem that is >>> 95% (guessing here) male, there is indeed some merit in just identifying >>> female producers in order to hold them up, track down their music, and >>> judge for oneself whether it is worthy of praise independent of the context >>> of the maker. >>> >>> >>> >>> However, the fact is that most music cannot be judged independent of >>> the identity of the maker. Techno is unique in that respect since it is >>> largely visually anonymous and devoid of vocals. I proffer that from a male >>> perspective it seems easy to say “just get over it and judge the music >>> based on the music” but that does not take into account the possible >>> reasons for wanting to listen to and seeking out female produced music, and >>> the possible systemic challenges women and girls face both in learning to >>> produce music and getting it published and distributed. >>> >>> >>> >>> (I’m couching this with “possible” here because I’m LONG out of the >>> scene and the internet has changed a lot. But I don’t think it’s changed >>> many ingrained attitudes and knee-jerk reactions….) >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Peter Bense [mailto:textur...@gmail.com] >>> *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2017 4:30 PM >>> *To:* Holly MacDonald-Korth >>> *Cc:* denisedalph...@gmail.com; christiaan76; Cole Evelev; Matthew >>> Kane; kent williams; Aidan O'Doherty; Marsel van der Wielen; list 313; >>> Suzanne Heinrichs; 3...@coke-smyth.net >>> *Subject:* Re: Female Producers >>> >>> >>> >>> Have any of you ever attended those electronic music events events with >>> *exclusively* female artists? >>> >>> >>> >>> I have. And in a lot of cases it seemed really awkward -- like the >>> reason they were selected as performers was due to their sex/gender over >>> their accomplishments as a performer/musician. (To say nothing of the male >>> patrons weirdly 'gawking' over them, which is also super creepy. A >>> separate issue unto itself.) >>> >>> >>> >>> So here we are listing out producers/djs, etc. and not discussing their >>> works or what makes them good (maybe one or two have, but most replies >>> haven't). >>> >>> >>> >>> That turns this into an ad-hoc roll call. Which again sort of reminds >>> of those types of events I just mentioned. To what end? >>> >>> >>> >>> How about indicate what makes them interesting to mention here, aside >>> from their sex/gender? That would seem like a more favorable way to >>> approach this discussion, while crediting them appropriately. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Holly MacDonald-Korth < >>> hko...@jwkorth.com> wrote: >>> >>> Exactly. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* denisedalph...@gmail.com [mailto:denisedalph...@gmail.com] >>> *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2017 3:27 PM >>> *To:* christiaan76 >>> *Cc:* Peter Bense; Cole Evelev; Matthew Kane; kent williams; Aidan >>> O'Doherty; Marsel van der Wielen; list 313; Suzanne Heinrichs; >>> 3...@coke-smyth.net >>> *Subject:* Re: Female Producers >>> >>> >>> >>> The only way gender will be gotten over is when sexism, homophobia, and >>> transphobia are done. I love this thread. >>> >>> >>> On Aug 18, 2017, at 15:21, christiaan76 <gotrecord...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> exactly. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> On Aug 18, 2017, at 21:09, Peter Bense <textur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> More generally: why is this gender thing so important? Can't we get >>> over it already.. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Cole Evelev <cole.eve...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Sorry about that. This is who I was referencing. >>> >>> >>> >>> https://www.discogs.com/Powder-H/release/9983256 >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>