>>>>wv909 wrote: this is the essence of not letting yourself be controled!!!


the essence of not being controlled is to recognize the limitations of this
world.. those of man, and those of nature, and moving freely within them..
it has nothing to do with a discussion about worshipping rich hawtin or a
vocoded voice from UR.

worship no man. respect all. you definitely owe kyle dupuy an apology. we
all benefit from discourse, but not senseless insults.  it amazes me what
people will say to others on-line or behind their backs when they aren't
looking in your eyes.. techno is about communication... and most of detroit
is a back-stabbing double talking smoke screen, the furthest thing from an
evolved sub-culture.



p.s. we like +8 and Hawtin because they are always looking ahead, always
open creatively, and we have a long history together of breaking laws and
dancing in abandoned buildings.


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