Am I the only person that finds the concept of this Hawtin album a bit up
its own arse?
Good DJing? - no it's all done on computer
Good tracks? - no he is 'improving' upon other people's tracks by
deconstructing them and putting them back together.
The result is one 90 min cut n paste track which nobody else can play, nor
would anyone want to.
What's the point?




"M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 31/08/2001 12:14:53 AM

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Subject:  Re: [313] DE9 closer


There's nothing next level about DE9 'Closer to the Edit', only the fact
that all the people who have done it before him
have either 1.  Never been noticed in the first place. or 2. Got noticed
but
have long since been forgotten.

A great many producers (hip-hop, trip-hop, breaks etc.) consistently use
this process to create tracks, Richie has simply made 31 tracks
in the same vein, segued them together and called it 'innovation' (His
publicist spin I'm sure..).

I've listened to the recording alot lately, it sounds like an experiment,
no
flow, just tracks, intended for the mind to bounce along too.  The Gescom
MD
was certainly much more interesting, this still posseses linearity.

Rich uses what seems like a lot of Perlon (I know two or three for sure),
but in the most linear fashion possible.  He could have made some awesome
breakdown edits (to let the music breathe), or to give it an added
'wanna-bust-a-move' attitude, but instead he kept it pretty thumping
(making
it seem tracky,
and boring).

Like the last DE9 this one won't be in my collection, though I'm sure I'll
hear enough of it everywhere I go.

CHeers
todd
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leif Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [313] DE9 closer


> I thought that was the point of this release, to inspire volumes of
mailing
> list discussion attempting to catalogue all of the samples and loops that
he
> uses, and what track they came from. Gotta catch 'em all or somesuch
thing.
>
> The DE9 record reminds me a bit of the Minidisc project that Autechre did
> under their Gescom alias. It was a collection of 88 small snippets of
tracks
> and samples that was intended to be played with the shuffle feature of
your
> Minidisc player. So each time you played the disc it would result in a
new
> listening experience.
>
> I found the new DE9 to be very interesting. I can't say that it's my
> favorite Hawtin record, but I definitely respect him for trying to take
> Techno to that next level.
>
>  Leif
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Vince Woolums <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 313 List <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [313] DE9 closer
>
>
> > Hello.
> >
> > To my knowledge there is no 'track listing' per se, because of the
nature
> of
> > the mix.  Lots of track titles are included as points of reference, but
> the
> > order in which they are listed is not the order in which they are
played.
> > There is also nothing that subscribes to the traditional
track-after-track
> > approach.  Bits of track recur at random times throughout the mix.
> >
> > Makes sense, right?
> >
> > Vince Woolums
> > AOL IM: vincewoolums
> > http://jump.to/iowacityunderground
> >
>
>
>
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