I hear the upshot of what you're saying, but many of us have weathered the race threads to no end. I think it's generally a nonproductive topic for such a geographically diverse group on email. Sorry if I contributed to the fray in that nonproductive manner. However, the Theo to race discussion is probably more like 1:100 here. I recall a link to an interview with Theo Parrish from a number of moths back in which he was very candid about race relations in the underground media, and particularly the way that Moodymann has been portrayed. Anyone remember the URL?
Tristan ---------- http://www.mp313.com <- Music http://www.metrotechno.net <- DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com <- DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com <- Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- email <FrogboyMCI> <- AOL Instant Messenger ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [313] can't we all just get along? > >You don’t have to be an academic to know that the civil-rights > >movement of the 1950s and ’60s is one of the most deeply complicated > >chapters in American history. Likewise, you need only a passing knowledge > of > >this chapter to know that black music provided a crucial "ROLE" blocked by > >the governement, the establishment, the institutional economy, the media, > >and so on.... since then. But to take on the daunting task of definitively > >contextualizing the relationship between these two movements, you’d > >likely have to be an academic and sadist. > > I still don´t understand the conclusion - We shall stop talking about the > > too heavy too complicated subject ? > > I thought we want to talk and learn about 313-music and art, right ? > > So when we hear and read that there are also black-related subjects in the > music, in artwork, > > in lyrics and in interviews, I would think this is quite a good place to > talk and learn about > > some of the background of this art - and so I will repeat this here - > > Just take a title of a record like - Ebonics - by Theo Parrish - > > the subject is in the title - you can hear the vocal-samples directly > dedicated to the subject > > Now just count the postings done here about record-numbers and id´s of Mr. > Parrish´s records > > and mixes (which is great) - but now put this amount against the number of > people talking > > about the record-titles, the meanings of his art some including black > related subjects- > > you come up with a number 100:0 = 100-mixes vs 0-messages ? > > now have you ever heard of a simple phenomenon called "silent majority" ? > > "no no, not us here ?? - preaching to the converted ?" > > how should I know, when I see the majority relation about 100:0 > > I would like to talk about the black messages in the art - to learn and > understand - > > because some music in music-culture is also connected with sending > information with teaching > > and communication in various ways - I would like to understand more - > > 4 some understanding it´s good to communicate - > > and this is what this list is made 4 - to chat and learn about the music and > art > > some artists have a focus on non-messages - want the music to speak without > words - > > others mix the music with other things and thoughts that move them - > > but all the people pushing the black messages into the racistic corner, > > by calling it off-topic, too heavy or too academic to talk about it, > > or keep preaching on it´s "only music" > > are making the debate very strange and this avoids getting closer to the art > - > > this won´t help in the deeper understanding of much music-art coming from > Detroit > > - still thanx 4 the books - > > m > planetz2002 > > -- > LoveThemPlanetZ > peoplez > plantz > peaze > pluz > m > > GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. > http://www.gmx.net > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
