it's a really cool article too,

peace
rc

on 18/2/02 6:46 PM, Phonopsia at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> probably more like 1:100 here. I recall a link to an interview with Theo
> Parrish from a number of moths back in which he was very candid about race
> relations in the underground media, and particularly the way that Moodymann
> has been portrayed. Anyone remember the URL?
> 
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>>> You don&#8217;t have to be an academic to know that the civil-rights
>>> movement of the 1950s and &#8217;60s is one of the most deeply
> complicated
>>> chapters in American history. Likewise, you need only a passing knowledge
>> of
>>> this chapter to know that black music provided a crucial "ROLE" blocked
> by
>>> the governement, the establishment, the institutional economy, the media,
>>> and so on.... since then. But to take on the daunting task of
> definitively
>>> contextualizing the relationship between these two movements, you&#8217;d
>>> likely have to be an academic and sadist.
>> 
>> I still don´t understand the conclusion - We shall stop talking about the
>> 
>> too heavy too complicated subject ?
>> 
>> I thought we want to talk and learn about 313-music and art, right ?
>> 
>> So when we hear and read that there are also black-related subjects in the
>> music, in artwork,
>> 
>> in lyrics and in interviews, I would think this is quite a good place to
>> talk and learn about
>> 
>> some of the background of this art -  and so I will repeat this here -
>> 
>> Just take a title of a record like - Ebonics - by Theo Parrish -
>> 
>> the subject is in the title - you can hear the vocal-samples directly
>> dedicated to the subject
>> 
>> Now just count the postings done here about record-numbers and id´s of Mr.
>> Parrish´s records
>> 
>> and mixes (which is great) - but now put this amount against the number of
>> people talking
>> 
>> about the record-titles, the meanings of his art some including black
>> related subjects-
>> 
>> you come up with a number 100:0 = 100-mixes vs 0-messages ?
>> 
>> now have you ever heard of a simple phenomenon called "silent majority" ?
>> 
>> "no no, not us here ?? - preaching to the converted ?"
>> 
>> how should I know, when I see the majority relation about 100:0
>> 
>> I would like to talk about the black messages in the art - to learn and
>> understand -
>> 
>> because some music in music-culture is also connected with sending
>> information with teaching
>> 
>> and communication in various ways -  I would like to understand more -
>> 
>> 4 some understanding it´s good to communicate -
>> 
>> and this is what this list is made 4 - to chat and learn about the music
> and
>> art
>> 
>> some artists have a focus on non-messages - want the music to speak
> without
>> words -
>> 
>> others mix the music with other things and thoughts that move them -
>> 
>> but all the people pushing the black messages into the racistic corner,
>> 
>> by calling it off-topic, too heavy or too academic to talk about it,
>> 
>> or keep preaching on it´s "only music"
>> 
>> are making the debate very strange and this avoids getting closer to the
> art
>> -
>> 
>> this won´t help in the deeper understanding of much music-art coming from
>> Detroit
>> 
>> - still thanx 4 the books -
>> 
>> m
>> planetz2002
>> 
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